Why does Anti-Aging and LIfe Extension always fail ?

I've been following this subject for many years - And yes people are living a little longer - Staying healthy somewhat longer......

But I've yet to see a hundred year old who looks young - Yet to see many people vibrant and active in their 90s.

So with all the supplements, diets, lifestyle issues, etc. - All Humans still face a very limited lifespan

Would you like to knonw why? - I would

Why is the Human lifespan so limited?

You would think with all science, statistics, etc. knows, it would be possible to extend life considerably
- But apparently it isn't - The claim that many in the vitamin, health food field were claiming years ago that it would be possible to extend
Human life to at least 150 is turning out to be bunk.

No one has come close to drastically extending Human life - And Man still appears to be doomed by an unforgiving 'Biological Clock'

Why? - Why can't we figure out the key that would open lifespan so you could live as longs as, or at least almost as long as you want

We have a finite life.
Hopefully we move to something better.
Or, in some cases, something worse.

Genetics , cellular degeneration , automobile accidents , meteors .....

a reply to: AlienView

I am not sure I could handle being alive that long.

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Or maybe it does exist but it has been kept secret by the very top and no I am not talking about the Deep State but someone far more powerful than them and rumors say they have been around since the time of Ancient Egypt.

Even if their Ancient Egyptian origins are false, they definitely have been around since the French Revolution.

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7.442 billion reasons why and counting.

a reply to: AlienView

Just living healthy doesn't conquer the genetics and such. That's the stuff they're die hard trying to crack, and with ongoing advances across the board...

originally posted by: andy06shake
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7.442 billion reasons why and counting.

And there it is: cant have billions of immortals. Where the elites expect they will get theirs, which means they have 'to do something' to keep everyone else from being able to participate when the day comes... Now look around at the news, the global economy, the world with this thought in mind and you'll start to see that this 'war' is already long underway.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: AlienView

7.442 billion reasons why and counting.

Exercise you say?

Jack La Lane the famous exercise guru of the last century just died a few years ago at 96 - He looked old.
My mother who hardly ever exercised just died at 95, she looked and acted old.
A woman from France who lived to 112 was a lifetime cigarette smoker.

Apparentlhy these gurus of life extension, besides being able to interpret statistics, really know very little
about what makes people live longer.

you`re wrong about one thing right off the bat, the lifespan has gone down not living a little longer.
people live ,people die, ,I`m more concerned about why the lettuce in my fridge turns brown before I`ve eaten it all.
I hate wasting food but damn it`s hard to eat that much lettuce before it dies and goes brown.

point is, everything has a lifespan, human lifespans seem short until you compare them to lettuce.

I did quite a bit of research on life extension products. Most of them technically could increase the cell life, but they also increase chances of cancer getting hold. Some growth hormones can restore youth but also they can feed cancer cells. Some of the supplements can increase our risk of getting sick more often, they dampen our immune response too much.

I have not seen one product out there yet that I have researched that can increase our lifespan at least with a quality of life aspect attached. Sure we can live longer, but at what cost, maybe our mind will go, maybe our immune systems will be compromised by doing the supplement.

A lot of things need to be researched to properly alter a diet for longlivity, number one, metabolism, which is different for everyone. Look at hour healthy close relatives and see what they do, but remember, they have different genetic variants than you possibly. My youngest daughter has genetics different than me, she needs a different diet than I eat to stay sharp and healthy.

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yeah I think life spans are much more about genetics than about what you eat or don`t eat.
if you got bad genes your gonna die young no matter how nice you are or healthy you are, if you got good genes you`ll live a long time even if your a grumpy old evil pos.
my family are the most miserable people you would ever want to meet and yet they have a documented history of living well into their 90`s even with a history diabetes and other diseases, my wife`s side of the family are the most pleasant people you would ever meet but they all die before they are even old enough to collect social security.

a reply to: AlienView

Things like testosterone replacement therapy added with exercise can help for males. But I think you may be looking for too much progress too soon. 90 year olds with the vitality of a 30 year old would be way too big of an advance.

originally posted by: bluechevytree
a reply to: rickymouse

yeah I think life spans are much more about genetics than about what you eat or don`t eat.
if you got bad genes your gonna die young no matter how nice you are or healthy you are, if you got good genes you`ll live a long time even if your a grumpy old evil pos.
my family are the most miserable people you would ever want to meet and yet they have a documented history of living well into their 90`s even with a history diabetes and other diseases, my wife`s side of the family are the most pleasant people you would ever meet but they all die before they are even old enough to collect social security.

My grandfather died at eighty six years old, he was in good health most all along, he did get colds and maybe an occasional bug but he never saw a doctor till the day he died. He was born at home, no doctor was around back those days where he was from, midwives did the job.

I have super long living genetics, I estimate the lifespan to be around one forty. But I would have to identify a special diet to compensate for this, the main factor is a low normal body temp. Cellular aging slows when you have a low body temperature, but mitabolic issues become a pain. Most people die from metabolic issues before they are seventy. I am trying to decipher this, but the older I get the more intolerant to food I get. I know I need to actually stay active to raise the core temperature so I can create adequate digestive enzymes. This is genetic, some of it does show up in genetics. If I ever figure out how to properly adjust things, I will share it so others do not have to deal with the problems of the low body temperature.

Genesis 6:3

Then the LORD said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.”

Science isn't God, I have a technical background, studied physics, chemistry some biology and yes I'm still a Bible tard.

But lets set that aside for the moment. I assume your question is why hasn't science extended our lives? Perhaps science requires increasing complexity, specialization, and in our current case degradation of the environment to achieve this complexity.

We're part of this ecosystem, so the more science we use to manipulate our environment and ourselves the more entropy we increase on the margin. The margin is where it's eating us, all the radiation, poisoning of the food and water supplies.

Every 'solution' that science comes up with brings 1000 new questions and problems. It is the ouroborus consuming it's own tail.

Telomeric
shortening?

all these flowery explanations aside....

the individual cells as coded to be replaced only 7 times...

your liver/heart/intestines/etc. are only programmed to replace the full spectrum of cells a certain number of times ( and that corresponds to the timeline of your body not regenerating itself after some 60-70 years of wear-&-tear...)

there has been some study with long-life Tortitises And certain genes are either turned on-or-off...i can't recall...
but its' not a simple task to try to mess with Human Genes/DNA to try to live long like a 300 year-old giant Turtle

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the more science "advances" the less our lifespans become,maybe all these new and improved drugs that help your clogged arteries but cause your ass to explode and your brain to stop working aren`t much of an improvement over just living and dying naturally.

So I started this thread partially becuase I was thinking back to years ago when the health gurus where preaching the
concept - that with the right diet and supplements you could live to 150 - Where are they now?

So I do some research - and apparently science goes on - this is recent:

Maximum human lifespan could far exceed 115 years – new research

"The maximum human lifespan could far exceed previous predictions, according to work that challenges the idea that humans are approaching a hard limit on longevity.

The latest research comes in response to a recent high-profile paper that concluded “maximum longevity has hit a ceiling of 114.9 years” – a claim that prompted extraordinary levels of criticism from the scientific community. Now five separate research teams have launched critiques of the work in a series of papers in the journal Nature.

Human lifespan has hit its natural limit, research suggests Read more Together they present the case that there is no compelling evidence that we are approaching an upper limit on our mortality – or at the very least, that such a limit may be considerably higher than 115 years.

Prof Jim Vaupel, a specialist in ageing at the Max Planck Institute for Demographic Research in Germany and one of the authors, said: “The evidence points towards no looming limit. At present the balance of the evidence suggests that if there is a limit it is above 120, perhaps much above – and perhaps there is not a limit at all.”

The dispute between Jan Vijg, the geneticist at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York who authored the original paper, and the critics, has become unusually heated, with both sides stepping beyond the typically restrained bounds of scientific discourse........................


.........................Under one such scenario, lifespans would be predicted to climb steadily upwards, such that the oldest person alive by the year 2,300 would be expected to be 150 years old. “The increase in average lifespan will not suddenly crash into a 115-year limit,” he said........................

See whole article here:
www.theguardian.com...


As you can see, nothing has changed much - Wild claims, supposedly based upon research, saying that the Hiuman
Life span can be increased greatly.

And yet without some kind of 'mutation' - say a positive mutation like you see in your sci-fi superheroes, that allowed
a human to not only stop aging in the declining sense - but to start getting stronger as they got older
- a prophetic Superman Mutant - But then again I like Scifi better than science.

Science has limits and boundaries - From a 'sciencefictionalist' point of view limits and boundaries are only
there to be broken.




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