Missile threat alert for Hawaii a false alarm

a reply to: lokomai

Yeah, that doesn't give you a whole lot of options really... I assume you have sewer accesses etc. Main roads are a definite no-no anyway I'd say...

Hilariously; they told is in the army to get down on your front, facing the blast, arms tucked under and chin tucked down. Wait for the shockwave to pass over and back and then beat each other with branches to remove irradiated debris 😂

"I can't believe if someone pushed the wrong button accidentally that it would take 38 minutes to correct it," said U.S. Rep. Colleen Hanabusa, D-Hawaii, adding that her husband was on the highway when the alert was sent out and people started "driving 100 mph." "If this was for real, what do we have to say for our whole defense system."

There must be some pretty lame people at the control panel for the alarm to go off for so long.

www.hawaiinewsnow.com...

This is the only warning I'm concerned with, as the cats will rule the world in time.

a reply to: Zarniwoop

one of my family members is in the leadership for a major television company(runs most of the east coasts local news).


i've seen the boxes in the transmitters that control these messages and there is no button on them that enables this. the signal comes from the government and the local tv stations have zero control.

so that means someone at the very highest levels of civil defence made the call to activate this system, it takes more then one keystroke.

something is very fishy

a reply to: Indrasweb

wow very interesting We have been working on these plans recently. Schools are teaching reaction to children, healthcare facilities making plans and everyone has now heard of our sirens. Sirens did not go off today which made me think it was a false alarm but when talking to my contact with emergency management about 4-5 minutes after the text I was told it wasn't a drill so I went full force. Hate looking for the good from something like this but now we all know what we need to work on and oh boy do we have work to do.

Something spooked them to sound the alarm. What that was will probably remain on a "need to know basis" to prevent panic.

Human error for a system that should have fail safes to prevent false alarms seems like a likely excuse. I don't know, maybe I'm giving them too much credit.

I know if I were to get that alert on my phone, I'd get jelly legs at first, then kick it into survival mode. That had to be a brief moment of horror for the residents of Hawaii.

a reply to: penroc3

Just to clarify it wasn't a television message, it was a cell phone banner. I agree with you that something is wrong here but just fyi it isn't one of the television types, this came from civil defense itself much like an amber alert.

a reply to: lokomai

It went out over TV too

I think its a psy op.
they have been hyping up this to the world for how long?
the first missiles that fell near japan?
they did not get much hyp at all.

its all fear and Control.
Now they have the fear,
they can use a Lot more control.
And you all thought trump was a good guy! ha!

puting the kid in the drains!
I would have loved that?
they will no keep the kids out of them now.

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: lokomai

It went out over TV too

What???
a minuteman missile could hit!!
So Kim has minuteman missiles...

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

true true. sorry mis stated. I meant the actual alert itself was pushed through the state civil defense not through other agencies....true though What i found funny is no sirens, This is very fishy to me. That long to discover someone hit a button accidentally. Hell if I hit something I shouldn't I know immediately.

a reply to: lokomai

You're right that you can take positives from this. It's given you a taste of how it might be in a real life situation and it'll have changed the way you might think about it and respond in the future. As scary as it might have been for a brief while it'll have been a good learning experience.

It's a sad state of affairs that people even need to be contemplating this stuff but, at least you can now plan accordingly.

It seems unlikely that this alert could have been accidentally triggered by one person pressing a button. A malfunction in the system designed to issue the alerts... maybe....

Curious that it comes so soon after all the talk about NK having increased capabilities. How long has the system been in place, yet only now this happens?

originally posted by: Indrasweb
You know what strikes me about this; the absolute lack of a response from the people filming the videos etc.

If this was real, they're all dead..

Stood looking gormlessley at the TV screen, through the screen of their mobile phone, mindlessly recording the voice blaring out of the TV telling them there's a good chance they're about to be vaporised....

The fact that there was such an ORDERLY almost NUMB response to this is worrying to me.. are people that desensitized?

Jeez.. war of the worlds, a radio show about Martians shooting death rays ffs, sent people into an absolute blind panic.

Fast forward 80 years and here we have a clearly official announcment from the government that you're about to be hit by a freaking ICBM and people are watching the #ing tv?

Insanity.

What the hell ya gonna do?

Grab a beer and a seat, that's about it.

I didn't see anyone kissing their ass goodbye, tho.

It's ok to be comfortably numb sometimes.





ETA; oh, it was an accident by shift change.

Some guy just admitted it and apologized.

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: The GUT

Yup, and I think we both know from whence that odor originates.

 

a reply to: lokomai

I agree.

As oriondc says, these systems are automated. This is not something that could 'accidentally' be set off. For a manually tripped message, there would be several layers of confirmation.

There are several layers of confirmation which is why this never went beyond the initial push alert. No sirens were employed. The alert system is state run civil defense who would get an alert from the military. But somehow someone sent the push when no warning had been recieved.

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard has somehow found a way to blame Trump for this.

She says
"Our leaders have failed us.
Donald Trump is taking too long. He's not taking this threat seriously."



truepundit.com... /

a reply to: EchoesInTime

Never let a tragedy go to waste. In this case, a f# up, but, lets spin it anyways for cheap brownie points.

They're still going with the human error OS:

Governor David Ige, who apologized for the mistake, said in televised remarks that the alert was sent during a employee shift change at the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency. Vern Miyagi, the agency’s administrator, called it “human error.”

“It was a procedure that occurs at the change of shift where they go through to make sure that the system, that it’s working. And an employee pushed the wrong button,” the Democratic governor said, adding that such shift changes occur three times a day every day of the year.

The alert, sent to mobile phones and aired on television and radio, was issued amid high international tensions over North Korea’s development of ballistic nuclear weapons.

“I was awakened by the alert like everyone else here in the state of Hawaii. It was unfortunate and regrettable. We will be looking at how we can improve the procedures so it doesn’t happen again,” Ige added.

Miyagi said, “It was an inadvertent mistake. The change of shift is about three people. That should have been caught. ... It should not have happened.”

Reuters

Shift change error...uh huh...

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

I do not believe it for a moment.

I want them to demonstrate how it happened.

A shift change procedure that could result in something like this? Three times a day, every day and it's never happened before?

Bullsh*t.

We'll never get the truth about this.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

We'll never get the truth about this.

I don't think so either, especially considering the following:

"The FCC has begun a full investigation into the FALSE missile alert in Hawaii," Carr said, retweeting a similar message from FCC chief of staff Matthew Berry.

The Hill

"We're from the government and we're here to help."

The 9 most dangerous words in the English language.

originally posted by: Sillyolme

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: The GUT

Yup, and I think we both know from whence that odor originates.

 

a reply to: lokomai

I agree.

As oriondc says, these systems are automated. This is not something that could 'accidentally' be set off. For a manually tripped message, there would be several layers of confirmation.

There are several layers of confirmation which is why this never went beyond the initial push alert. No sirens were employed. The alert system is state run civil defense who would get an alert from the military. But somehow someone sent the push when no warning had been recieved.

As usual we are going to need you to provide some sort of source for your claim. History has shown that we can usually assume the opposite is true.

I bet the GCHQ put out this missile alert without a reason. Just on mass media, no seriousness behind this.
As well as no serious issue behind the #hole tweets. Just British - EU intelligence bull#s over the air!