During 2016 FBI Trump election investigation: FBI Sees No Link to Russia

SOURCE: www.nytimes.com...

"The Times story reported at a critical moment in the 2016 election campign that the FBI had found no “conclusive or direct link between Mr. Trump and the Russian government” during a months-long inquiry."

Just wanted to remind everyone that this Mueller business is going to fail to produce the left's desired result. Why? Because the FBI has already conducted an investigation into Trump/Russia, and this was during a time our government was controlled by the Obama Admin. I wouldn't expect Mueller to mysteriously discover something FBI special agents missed. Despite people like Peter Strozok and Lisa Page colluding to influence these investigations, no evidence was found linking Trump to any unlawful acts.

In fact, it is this very NYT article that caused wannabe-spy Christopher Steele (the one with delusions of grandeur) to disappear back into the hole he crawled out of to produce the salacious and largely discredited document on behalf of the Clinton campaign (and possibly in collusion with the Obama Administration or individuals in that administration)

As the President himself said in a recent interview (16 times, I believe): "There is no collusion. Even if there was it isn't illegal. But there was no collusion."

WASHINGTON — For much of the summer, the F.B.I. pursued a widening investigation into a Russian role in the American presidential campaign. Agents scrutinized advisers close to Donald J. Trump, looked for financial connections with Russian financial figures, searched for those involved in hacking the computers of Democrats, and even chased a lead — which they ultimately came to doubt — about a possible secret channel of email communication from the Trump Organization to a Russian bank.

Law enforcement officials say that none of the investigations so far have found any conclusive or direct link between Mr. Trump and the Russian government. And even the hacking into Democratic emails, F.B.I. and intelligence officials now believe, was aimed at disrupting the presidential election rather than electing Mr. Trump.

Hillary Clinton’s supporters, angry over what they regard as a lack of scrutiny of Mr. Trump by law enforcement officials, pushed for these investigations. In recent days they have also demanded that James B. Comey, the director of the F.B.I., discuss them publicly, as he did last week when he announced that a new batch of emails possibly connected to Mrs. Clinton had been discovered.

That is all for my rant. Thank you

a reply to: JBurns

If Russia interfered with the election, with or without Trump and his guy's help, I'd REALLY like to know. Not as a Democrat or Republican, but as an American. I'd be good if Russia didn't, but if they did, then we really should do something to make sure they can't again. For me, it's that simple.

Let Mueller do his job, please. I will be good if Trump ISN'T involved. I'd rather that. But if not, let the chips fall where they may.

What is everyone afraid of?

a reply to: MiddleInsite

I'd be good if Russia didn't, but if they did, then we really should do something to make sure they can't again. For me, it's that simple.

So the USA interferes with many elections around the world, sometimes bombing people into submission because they don't like the current government.

But hey, Russia isn't allowed to play some adverts.

I really do despise the level of hypocrisy shown by the US and its citizens.

P

Good lord Burns, we get it. You like Trump.

Seriously, you keep posting this bullcrap that nobody knows about because, guess what, the investigation isn't going to reveal anything until it's done. So, just like liberals claiming "Trumps going to jail!" saying "disproven" or "discredited" every time you mention the dossier is ignorant. Some of the things in the dossier have panned out, and some have been unverified. Until the investigation is done nobody knows one way or another, but your constant attempts at narrative shaping are getting tiresome.

originally posted by: Slanter
Good lord Burns, we get it. You like Trump.

Seriously, you keep posting this bullcrap that nobody knows about because, guess what, the investigation isn't going to reveal anything until it's done. So, just like liberals claiming "Trumps going to jail!" saying "disproven" or "discredited" every time you mention the dossier is ignorant. Some of the things in the dossier have panned out, and some have been unverified. Until the investigation is done nobody knows one way or another, but your constant attempts at narrative shaping are getting tiresome.

Agreed, Muellar has a job to do, let him do it in relative peace, Comey didn't get that chance even though his mandate was far less reaching.
Somehow it speaks volumes when you get a thread like this, aka the more you feed the fish the more they think there is more round the corner.
I see these, 'dubious dossier' posts, actually counter productive to Trump in the long run, so I guess the quartermaster is a bit of a headbin at this juncture, and losing the plot...a bit like Bannon, where even he gets the push from Breitbart...er, hmm???

I sold my house in the summer on 16 thinking Clinton wad going to win.

I had to deal with a lot of people, who do a lot of group thinking.

living in a blue state, all I heard was how trump was working with Russia. everyone was talking about it, and it was on every check and in every news paper... so the massive scale psyop worked, here. the fbi was busy ignoring comes from Clinton and at the same time letting Clinton's lies spread uninhibited.

fbi is in bed with Clinton, but they know they're going to get shut down if they don't cut this partisan snip out and start doing their job.

a reply to: MiddleInsite

It's highly likely that the collapse of the former soviet union was the work of the Bush empire and CIA working with Russian mobs and oligarchy. Putin has taken control of Russia from those oligarchs and they intend on ousting Putin. They want to use US assets to accomplish this goal like they've done in so many other nations of the world; Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Afghanistan, etc.

So, they are afraid that Trump will not want to instigate a war with Russia. That seems logical to me, but hey I'm just a crazy guy on the internet.

originally posted by: lordcomac
I sold my house in the summer on 16 thinking Clinton wad going to win.

I had to deal with a lot of people, who do a lot of group thinking.

They were both the bottom of the barrel in the popular vote, are you saying that you only voted for Trump because there was no decent choice, or that he's the kiddie despite being bottom of the barrel, you seem confused...with all those people doing group thinking and,why would you sell your house?

originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: MiddleInsite

I'd be good if Russia didn't, but if they did, then we really should do something to make sure they can't again. For me, it's that simple.

So the USA interferes with many elections around the world, sometimes bombing people into submission because they don't like the current government.

But hey, Russia isn't allowed to play some adverts.

I really do despise the level of hypocrisy shown by the US and its citizens.

P

Either Trump voters are a cult and listen only to Trump, or Trump voters listened to the Russians.

Hmmmmm....

a reply to: pheonix358

I really do despise the level of hypocrisy shown by the US and its citizens.

Put that with $5 and it will get you a coffee at Starbuck's

originally posted by: smurfy

originally posted by: lordcomac
I sold my house in the summer on 16 thinking Clinton wad going to win.

I had to deal with a lot of people, who do a lot of group thinking.

They were both the bottom of the barrel in the popular vote, are you saying that you only voted for Trump because there was no decent choice, or that he's the kiddie despite being bottom of the barrel, you seem confused...with all those people doing group thinking and,why would you sell your house?

I never said I voted for trump.

Clinton would have us balls deep in a recession by now, if not all out nuclear war with Russia.
it was time to sell any way, to get out of the city- but that crooked old hag forced me to accelerate my plans by about a year.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
a reply to: JBurns

If Russia interfered with the election, with or without Trump and his guy's help, I'd REALLY like to know. Not as a Democrat or Republican, but as an American. I'd be good if Russia didn't, but if they did, then we really should do something to make sure they can't again. For me, it's that simple.

Let Mueller do his job, please. I will be good if Trump ISN'T involved. I'd rather that. But if not, let the chips fall where they may.

What is everyone afraid of?

russia has been interfering in us politics and elections for more then half a century. our government has known this and the people did aswell up until this current election somehow. if your upset that they somehow let everything slip through the cracks and somehow dont know what happened, then call for the heads of the previous admins who were incompetent and let our agencies get so bad that they had no clue what was going on or preventative measures in place to curtail such things.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
a reply to: JBurns

If Russia interfered with the election, with or without Trump and his guy's help, I'd REALLY like to know. Not as a Democrat or Republican, but as an American.

Seriously, that's almost retarded ideology ...

The United States, interferes with local politics in every country on this globe ... and you are so childish, to imagine that nobody will try to interfere back?

If you really are that childish, and really are so much a whining little puppy ... that you go crying home to momma, when it happens ... then maybe you shouldn't be playing this game.

Go home to mommas bossom ...

a reply to: Gothmog


I enjoyed the reference but not nice!

What did that innocent coffee ever do to you, Gothmog? :O

a reply to: Wardaddy454


I like the Russians (well, some of them I suppose) but I personally voted for Trump because of his position on the issues.

The so-called "cult of personality" that goes with any politician (and especially Trump) was kind of fun over the Summer, but in the end my vote came down to: 1) Gun rights, 2) Infrastructure rebuilding, 3) Stamping out major corruption in government, 4) Reducing the size, influence and impact of the federal government

If a Democratic candidate could've done all 4 of those things for this country, then I'd vote for them as well.

a reply to: SkeptiSchism


Seems pretty logical to me as well. Much like their failed coup in Ukraine. I mean, Nuland's coup went off without a hitch. However, the Russians (ethnic Russian Ukrainians) were simply not having it. Russian weapons aided them, just as American weapons aid Ukraine. This is a proxy war (at least they wanted it to be a proxy war) that was avoided by Trump. Now they've taken to this global Russian conspiracy to once again try and put Russia on the chopping block.

No one should be rushing into war. Unlike the farce of Iraq/Afghanistan WMDs and "terrorism" we must demand evidence before getting involved in a war. Only in this war, we wouldn't be fighting disorganized Iraqi citizens. We'd be fighting regular Russian soldiers and special forces, who are backed by a world-class nuclear threat force. There is absolutely no reason to get into a conflict with Russia, when there is so much to gain through cooperation.

We should be moving toward Russia and away from Europe, given that our interests are much closer to Russia and far removed from the EU.

I'd still like to point out that beyond common intelligence/espionage activities of a national entity, no evidence has come to light showing Russia violating any US laws. In fact, Obama himself claimed that "Russia knocked it off" after Obama told them to "knock it off." So I really fail to see the argument still standing.

Surely no one is arguing that a couple social media advertisements could swing the same 50 elections that Obama/Clinton once claimed were "totally above the risk of voter fraud/meddling." Because, Trump's voters had likely decided who they were voting for when they heard Hillary was running. Not being an asshole, just stating a fact. She's an extremely unpopular candidate, especially among Republicans.

Everyone here remembers how cultish that election was. Clinton supporters were voting for her/a democrat no matter what. Trump supporters were voting for him/a republican no matter what. Very few people opted not to vote for either candidate (third party), and about half the population of our country didn't bother to show up.

Instead of worrying about ridiculous social media ads (some of us don't even use social media), why don't we focus on the reasons ~50% (40?) of our country didn't bother to show up at the polls?

Now I'm not saying for 100% certainty that Russia didn't do anything. Like I said, I believe they engaged in the same typical daily intelligence activities we engage in against them (and our own allies, actually). I do not believe it is some grand conspiracy, and I don't believe the effort worked very well considering how many things Trump has done in opposition to their interests/wishes. It is clear Trump is only acting in the interest of THIS country, and not foreigners.

Anyone in the government who claims to not know for a fact that hostile intelligence services are engaging in espionage is a liar. Everyone knows this stuff goes on, day in day out. There is nothing new or exciting with propaganda and foreign influence/lies. Like I said, we do it to them (and even our own allies) nonstop. Everyone here is acting like the people elect the President or something? When it reality, the electoral college elects the President (based on each individual state election) and not one of them raised this Russian nonsense during the vote. Reason is because the FBI had already investigated Trump and cleared Trump of any wrong-doing.

The REAL issue is why did former Administrations fail to take even basic precautions against this threat? Lets look at Obama, for example. He claims to have known Russia was "meddling" which is why he "threatened" Putin into stopping (allegedly). Why wasn't more done? Why did Obama/Clinton insist the elections could not be tampered with when Trump accused them of "rigging it" yet now they consistently engage in the exact opposite and claim it was meddled with (except they didn't actually claim this! Obama/Clapper said it was NOT meddled with)

Good luck making heads or tails of that. The total #-ups with this case are exactly why it is going nowhere.

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Wardaddy454


I like the Russians (well, some of them I suppose) but I personally voted for Trump because of his position on the issues.

The so-called "cult of personality" that goes with any politician (and especially Trump) was kind of fun over the Summer, but in the end my vote came down to: 1) Gun rights, 2) Infrastructure rebuilding, 3) Stamping out major corruption in government, 4) Reducing the size, influence and impact of the federal government

If a Democratic candidate could've done all 4 of those things for this country, then I'd vote for them as well.

They can. They won't. And I, as a Trump voter, did so for the same reasons. The Issues.