Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and ‘DeLonge’ Road to AATIP

originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: Paddyofurniture
Seems Bigelow has announced a new subsidiary of Bigelow Aerospace:

Bigelow Space Operations

www.bigelowspaceops.com...

A quick perusal I see he has partnered with CASIS

“Bigelow Space Operations (BSO) is proud to announce a partnership with the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS), manager of the International Space Station (ISS) U.S. National Laboratory. BSO is officially a user of the ISS National Lab, and will be facilitating the integration of payloads for commercial, academic and government customers. ”

I still have to dig into this but like I’ve said a few times before the UFO thing for Bigelow seems to just be a hobby. His operations in space and his methodical cornering of the market for potential “space real estate” is getting scary.

I see Bigelow as an IC privatization of UFOlogy operator.

Like the theory of Jay Weidnor that they hired Kubrick to direct a fake film of the moon landing, and consequently allowed him free access to some government operations for the great movie, 2001 Space Odyssey, the government allows Bigelow first pickings on much of their technology relating too space.


Bigelow is an insider hired by the IC to watch and control the little world corner of the UFOlogy community.

All the fringe UFO groups are definitely inside the orbit of the IC.

Look at that ridiculous Alien CON yearly conference sponsored by Van daniken’s Ancient Alien group. Why in the world would you call something Alien CON?

Its ridiculous, and a clear indication they are under IC control.

Cool theory Willtell.

Could very well be.

Bigelow certainly saw value in controlling UFO reporting. Not just past filed reports but also trying to be “first on station/site” in regards to newly reported UAP. His influences in FAA reporting and $750,000 deal with Mufon ( which he later backed out of ) are just a few chess moves he has made in this complex but excitingly interesting story line.

As for the IC choosing him theory. It is awfully curious how he moved so quickly with Bigelow Aerospace from his Budget Suites empire. Just From the strick business stand point of market analysis. He poured 100s of millions into Bigelow Aerospace ( estimates by 2010 were around 200 million of personal capital) is an unbelievable gamble in an industry that has not even truly established itself in current Day never mind in 1998 , it’s inception.

Interesting quote from Space.com

“He founded Bigelow Aerospace in 1998. Four years later, Bigelow Aerospace and NASA inked several Space Act pacts relating to employing technical workers. Bigelow subsequently signed several patent licensing agreements for NASA inflatable technology, and has paid royalty fees to the agency.”

www.space.com...

You have to have quite a bit of technical proficiency in multiple disciplines to be confident in decisions like that.

Slainte

originally posted by: pigsy2400
Doesn't THz radiation give off a blue glow in some instances? They did report the object there as glowing blue...hmmm

It depends on what's meant by THz radiation.

If it means a narrow band of far infrared radiation between 0.3 THz to 3 THz, then no it's not any color. The "far infrared" means it's "infrared" radiation "far" from the visible spectrum of light where colors can be seen, and it doesn't span the entire "far infrared" band, only a part of it.

If Terahertz radiation means radiation with a higher frequency than gigahertz but lower frequency than petahertz as seen here:

then the meaning of THz radiation is entirely different, and would encompass all the colors of visible light and much of the infrared and ultraviolet radiation (or light) wavelengths. So terahertz radiation is a somewhat ambiguous term. Visible light has frequencies from 430–770 THz which again is higher frequency than Gigahertz scale and less than petahertz scale, putting it squarely in the terahertz frequencies.

The International Telecommunication Union frequencies just stop at 3 THz which is the top of the THz band as they define it. However that's an artificial limit as electromagnetic radiation of higher frequencies does exist, though at higher frequencies the properties tend to be more like light and less like radio or microwave.

So is 4 or 5 THz radiation still THz radiation? It depends on who you ask I guess. According to the ITU it's off their scale which ends at 3 THz. To me it seems a little silly to say 3 THz radiation is terahertz radiation but 4 THz radiation is not because it's off their terahertz scale. In the above table the Terahertz range doesn't end until say 999 THz after which 1000 THz is actually 1 petahertz.

Another aspect to consider are the NASA Breakthrough Propulsion guys running around the scene here. Davis, White, these guys were doing EMdrive stuff for NASA not that long ago...although some chatter on reddit sez they got the boot for failing to deliver anything.

youtu.be...

a reply to: Willtell

The IC just want more control of the narrative and it's working, that's why it's been allowed in my opinion. It's on their terms

a reply to: Baablacksheep



Just so people know what you were posting. This is the Elizondo video from UFO Con 2018.

Enjoy, Endure or ignore!

a reply to: mirageman

Thanks Mirageman!

I shalll be curious to see what folks think of this one.

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a reply to: mirageman

Yeah, interesting, I watched it this morning after finding the thread about it in today's newsfeed. I noted some things of interest but decided not to comment in detail without a transcript and I'm not personally up to transcribing it.

Much of what Elizondo says is reasonable enough and I enjoyed watching/listening with my first cuppa, but I also noted what seemed to me some very sly weasel words and phrasing.

While he did take on some of the hard questions being posed by the community, I would also note some issues/questions that were notable for not being addressed.

One example: Elizondo explains away his own background in the biological fields, but his sidestep doesn't address why the board itself is heavily stacked that way.

He definitely has a sharper mind than his mannerisms, on first sight, might suggest to someone encountering him.

a reply to: The GUT

Yeh I see someone else decided to make another thread about the video as well. There really aren't enough concurrent threads to adequately cover this topic are there? But it makes it all difficult to keep up. So I will keep my comments to this thread.


Taken on face value I also support investigation into the UAP report that he said he worked on.

I sort of skimmed through it and although Elizondo seems a likeable and highly articulate guy I got the feeling it was a very carefully scripted act. Apparently he had to undergo surgery so couldn't attend the conference in person. OK but that meant questions can be sifted through and answers carefully rehearsed before he went on camera.

I didn't really learn much that I don't already know to be honest. He carefully sidestepped a few of the more tricky questions. I think this only leaves more questions that need to be asked. A few that I can think of.

1) Why has Tom DeLonge, CEO of To the Stars, seemingly gone into hibernation?

2) Why are you, Luis Elizondo, now apparently defacto spokesperson for his organisation?

3) Why does 'To the Stars need a "Director of Global Security & Special Programs" and what does that role entail.

4) You say you gave up your career with the government. Which means losing your security clearances. Why do you still think you have government security clearances?

5) Are you really employed by Bigelow as a contractor for the US DoD? (see above)

But I shall await Sir Isaac Koi's coming thread with more information. Hopefully that will bind together all the loose ends and explain the hot dogs for the cool cats.

With all due respect to this man,

The first problem with this interview is the answer where ATTIP got leads from.

He answered all official government channels.

Second. He knows NOTHING. Or is not telling anything.

So where is the great disclosure?

IF he gave all that money up to do this, then frankly, I would call him a fool.

Also, is he a scientist or security expert?

What are his scientific credentials?

I have to conclude he is a part of a 100 percent IC operation, and he is created and managed to look a certain way by the psychological op boys

GUT and I have already put out posts demonstrating the similarity of all this to NICAP.

NICAP though was more distinguished than this little group

This is a FAKE imo,

Another point....So he quits a high paying job with a great 401k plan to be the head of security of TTSA.

Why would they need any security?

From whom?

Maybe from the Bunco squad


An Alien CON

a reply to: Willtell

You are clearly not buying into all of this !

a reply to: Baablacksheep


I mean this guy looks like he’s in an auto parts store talking about “the phenomenon”

Look, if your going to con us at least make it credible.

What happened to disclosure?

This guy is talking about creating a research organization. Like he’s starting form day one. What happened to all stuff TDL was inferring he had access to relating to some kind of disclosure?


Maybe I’m wrong but it just doesn’t add up

a reply to: Willtell

GUT and I have already put out posts demonstrating the similarity of all this to NICAP.

NICAP though was more distinguished than this little group

Are we all getting too cynical about all of this?

Wait what's this from the TTS AAS offer document?



It also says

We do not anticipate compensating members of the Board of Directors at this time

So unless I've misread it all Luis Elizondo - "Director of Global Security for "TTS AAS" then you are working for free. You have also usurped Tom DeLonge as spokesperson.

Who really is this guy and what is he up to?

a reply to: mirageman

In one sentence, he’s a Richard Doty upgrade--Doty II

a reply to: Willtell

Didn't Doty end up working for the Grant's Police Department in the end?

Woah! I just had Deja Vous about Global Security Director and the connection to Our Two Dogs Hotdogs Inc.

a reply to: mirageman

Doty was a true low grade IC officer. They would never put a creep like him in the position Elizondo is in. He’s a little slick and has a personality therefore he has this quasi public job they ordered him to perform.

Yeah Doty became a state trooper after his retirement.

They actually don’t think much of the Ufology community anymore. The IC puppets are of a very low grade now.

That’s how much they depressed it and manipulated it into a sideshow.

a reply to: Willtell

Doty was a true low grade IC officer. They would never put a creep like him in the position Elizondo is in. He’s a little slick and has a personality therefore he has this quasi public job they ordered him to perform.

Point taken. Elizondo is far sharper than one of Doty's unopened razor blades, never mind the man himself. Ironically Doty seems to be trying to get himself back together and launching his own re-union tour with ufology. But you can't help looking back at certain moments in time and scratching your head at the influence he appears to have had over ufology. An influence that seemed to extend way beyond his pay grades. He also made a lot of 'friends' along the way.

I suspect Luis has better friends than Tom at present.

originally posted by: mirageman

Wait what's this from the TTS AAS offer document?

It also says

We do not anticipate compensating members of the Board of Directors at this time

So unless I've misread it all Luis Elizondo - "Director of Global Security for "TTS AAS" then you are working for free. You have also usurped Tom DeLonge as spokesperson.

Who really is this guy and what is he up to?

If that is the correct interpretation it is certainly of the red flag category and strongly suggests Elizondo is there at the behest--and still in the employ--of the IC.

Good catch, MM.

a reply to: mirageman

if TTSA was smart, they'd make a user account on ATS named that,
so that you'd be prevented by the T&C from going after them
with your "humor".

a reply to: Willtell

you mean he's bennewitzing delonge/ttsa to accomplish a false narrative and manipulate perceptive awareness of the greater ufo community just like they got bennewits to unwittingly do back in the day when he parroted their IC contrived garbage back to the masses?

...its almost like I've been saying just that since the beginning of this delonge debacle almost a year ago.

nobody listens to bassplyr