Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and ‘DeLonge’ Road to AATIP

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

The secret may be that there is no secret from the government. Or the secret may be what John Keel believed: The government wants to hide the fact that THEY KNOW NOTHING

That's my view.

I used to believe that the top researchers knew something.. but once I saw
their research results I knew that they were nowhere near.

a reply to: Willtell

If 'aliens' are trying to protect us from the government,
they need to be impeached and we need to get different
'aliens'.

originally posted by: Willtell
If you go back to the early fifties the time after the Robertson panel you get the same mentality and dogma coming from TTSA. UFOs are unknown, maybe real, ETH maybe, but potentially a threat.

Also, a conscious effort to besmirch UFOlogy on all levels, by the CIA.
I said many times the only unique aspect to TTSA is the fact of the positive press coverage. But that’s likely a trap of some sort.

I wanted to come back to this observation because it's a perfectly valid one. The radical views from inside the Pentagon that there were interplanetary spacecraft invading our atmosphere back in the 1950s was based on 1950s knowledge and science. Or possibly a lack of knowledge that even remains to this day.

What I see with Zondo and TTSA are parallels back to a story that broke in 1989.





The Lazar W-2 and ID badge emblazoned with US Dept of Naval Intelligence never proven to exist. (There is of course a US Office of Naval Intelligence).

Now we have a supposed UFO program that existed within the walls of the Pentagon. But while the Pentagon admit there was an "Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program", TTSA point man Zondo insists it was Aerospace....Meanwhile somewhere mixed up in all of this is the same guy who broke the Lazar story.

Tom DeLonge told Joe Rogan he was putting out Lazar's biography last year. Jeremy Corbell is putting out a Lazar documentary sometimes in the future. Now I know some people will tell us there is no connection between these film projects and TTSA. But there is a connection. It's not like it's not been obvious for a long time to people who have been following all of this is it?

Deny ignorance!

Considering that Form W-2, if there is, in fact, a "Department of Naval Intelligence", they don't pay much.

originally posted by: mirageman

Meanwhile somewhere mixed up in all of this is the same guy who broke the Lazar story.

Tom DeLonge told Joe Rogan he was putting out Lazar's biography last year. Jeremy Corbell is putting out a Lazar documentary sometimes in the future. Now I know some people will tell us there is no connection between these film projects and TTSA. But there is a connection. It's not like it's not been obvious for a long time to people who have been following all of this is it?

Would almost make one wonder just how strong a connection between anyone who would claim that and the IC-connected TTSA is. Same team? Nah...that's conspiracy theorist talk. Loony. Ridiculous.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

er.....what else hides within 5G?

If you control people, you in fact control aspects of the 'phenomenon', as the 'phenomenon' is (apparently) a result of an external force interacting with human neural architecture.

5G IS HERE!... THIS IS WHAT THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW


Our enslavement will be complete?

Once people were allowed to be happy and free and to enjoy simple pleasures.. and during those times, the 'phenomenon' was experienced as 'little people' or other more innocent things. But once innocent pleasure was made against the law (paternal monotheism), then suddenly people saw demons.. at best a succubus.

Remember the "little people" faeries helped Man. And then like the elves in Lord Of The Rings they they moved out of our consciousness.

at best a succubus.

( ignoring the egregore aspect for a moment )...

Lilith still walks? upon the Earth?, Adams 1st wife.

If she encouraged reaching out to taste the fruit of the Tree it is natural that she would be demonized.

Her children are in constant battle with the children of Eve?

paternal monotheism

Confluence of forces in the 14th century? The following played a part

Mariolatry, Dantes Inferno, Baphomet,

Dark Ages ( middle-ages ) associated with mans enslavement ( The Church ), in other parts of the world ( not under Roman rule ) Civilization moved forward.


www.history.com...

a reply to: The GUT

Is it?

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

You said:

I'm actually highly informed on the antenna project,
so I can say with utmost certainty that it's a valid
project, using the scientific method and being
driven by reputable scientists, though neither
of them now work with TTSA. (that should
be a big clue..).

I don't need clues Kev but thanks for sharing

The Antenna project is very interesting of course and a few here on ATS are pretty well informed.

This was posted John Burroughs(Rendlesham) Facebook page.

media.lasvegasnow.com...

And this for anyone who may have missed it.

kgraradioarchives.com...

a reply to: Baablacksheep

Nah, not really. It’s a necessary and sufficient design to have Kelly pedantically and nauseatingly remind you of your intellectual deficiencies — there’s only so many shortcuts he/she is willing to take in leading a horse to water...and we’re all horses she’s/he’s broken many times before (just don’t ask about it or expect honesty outside of the qualified “i’ve been there done that, where’s your proof?”). It’s all very tired and maybe he/she can crawl back into their delusion and leave us alone. That’d be swell.

Joseph Campbell is more succinct and honest than said drivel.

#PowerOfTheMythFTW

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Wouldnt that be a kicker hey kev, for years people are sure the gubment knows something and bang thier fists for disclosure, when they could know diddly squat about anything! Funniest thing is, no-one would believe them...

And if true.. Where has all these nonsensical stories originated from and for what purpose...

a reply to: BeefNoMeat

I think that's a little unfair Beef, as Baa quite rightly said, there are people in here that have previous experiences that we can draw upon. There are people in similar threads that would surprise you as to their connections to certain topics, people and events!

KellyPrettyBear for example, is known for his experiences in certain fields that we can draw some information from that others don't have experience in. Doesnt make them more intelligent just different view points not that we have to agree with them either though, so your challenge is healthy but perhaps with a little too much of a sting in the tail.

None of my experiences can help or aid anyone..but I don't claim them to either.

The beauty of this topic is the avenues of thought that it can expose you to, should you decide to pursue the.

As I stated, you do make a valid point and KellyPrettyBear needs challenging on certain things, but perhaps in a better way than you have.

How stupid are Hoff and the guys if they can't figure out what that material is for. Seriously. They're being disingenuous. You figure that out with basic google searches.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

Yeah it always makes me smile bass, especially when they say unknown metals...well unless we need to add serious amounts of new elements to the periodic table..then it's utter nonsense.

But zondo said "it doesn't matter if the materials come up with nothing, more importantly people are now sending us stuff"

Surely that's the wrong way around...if you have anything knocking around in your back yard bass, send it in! It's more important that you do rather than what it is...what utter nonsense.

a reply to: pigsy2400

It sounds like gobble.😲

a reply to: pigsy2400

Well its possible they know perfectly well what it is, and what its used for.

Its plausible they want people to send random "UFO" parts to them, not so they can figure out what it is but where its made. Ie was this room temperature highly dynamic state of the art superconductor metamaterial manufactured in the USA or China.

If in the odd chance they discover the material was made by a foreign country and collected in US territory it tells you a few things that are extremely important. Like crap. They caught up with us in this field or arena of materials science and technology..and they've gotten ballsy enough to fly through our territory with it, probably for nefarious reasons we don't like. Something that would be totally in line with what a real world AATIP would attempt to do.

And to keep the continuing or relaunched rehashed program well obsfucated you bury the financial trail under putz companies like tom dalonge, ttsa, and two dogs in a bun or whatever. And simultaneously get the gullible public excited in sending you every weird scrap of stuff to you...cause TTSA wants to get to the bottom of the UFO inigma. Which is likely not what their real charter actually is, whether or not delonge is aware of it or not.

So in a way, the game could be like Bigalow "send us your UFO sightings" 2.0, but for physical materials. Since simply reporting a UFO sighting garners close to squat in real world data that will tell you anything if the observer and reporter aren't educated enough to actually give useful, intelligent or even accurate informaton.

a reply to: pigsy2400

Some people will do anything to control the minds of others..
by taking advantage of known weaknesses in the human
psyche much can be accomplished for personal agendas.

People want "answers", so religion, spirituality and
theosophy are the historical tools that have been
so effective.

Now days however.. the syncretic evolution of those
concepts in conjunction with relatively junk science
has been conflated to create the UFO/UAP
mind control mechanism.

a reply to: pigsy2400

I've volunteered for 'challenging' from day one.
I have no horse in this race.
I have no books.. i'm not a member of any groups..
I have had deep involvement with not only hardcore spiritual groups,
but have collaborated with some of the very people and projects
that are being discussed.

I feel that i'm doing a public service.. and also.. selfishly.. i'm still
trying to process (correctly) my lifetime of unusual experiences.

When I make a mistake, or find I haven't been processing correctly,
I write mea culpas on ATS. I"m dang close to perfectly transparent.

Mostly the people who are most venomous to me, are ones who have
been censored/banned for attacking me (I've never been censored
or banned). I mostly feel sorry for them.. a lot of them turn out to
be angry alcoholics with self-control issues.

Of course christians tend not to like me.. which is completely
reasonable... christianity being one of the world's worst
psyops ever.. and I believe in educating about psyops.

I also don't mind if people don't like me for being pedantic
(I am autistic after all) or not liking my personality.. that's
fine.. I may not be likable.

originally posted by: pigsy2400

But zondo said "it doesn't matter if the materials come up with nothing, more importantly people are now sending us stuff"

My bin collection didn't occur this week, so can I send all my garbage to Zondo?


No, Luis, that isn't an exotic warp-drive-enabled UAP thruster - it's a baked-bean tin.

originally posted by: ConfusedBrit

originally posted by: pigsy2400

But zondo said "it doesn't matter if the materials come up with nothing, more importantly people are now sending us stuff"

My bin collection didn't occur this week, so can I send all my garbage to Zondo?


No, Luis, that isn't an exotic warp-drive-enabled UAP thruster - it's a baked-bean tin.

;-)

The 'aliens' good stuff looks like cans of spam, either past
expiration date or empty. (who in the hell eats spam?)

Kev