Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and ‘DeLonge’ Road to AATIP

a reply to: 1ofthe9

We haven’t had if memory serves, a big flap in a while like the Phoenix lights. I’m talking about for instance even a lot of threads on ATS seem lately to present decent individual incidents on UFOs now and then beyond the usual lights in the sky at night.

a reply to: Willtell

The first 4 minutes or so are priceless.

I'm not a big fan of Mr. Wilcox either.. but he hit the whole TDL thing out of the park..
he confirmed what various people on here have said about the Hilary/Podesta/
control the narrative angle..

I love it when one famous "nearly flim flam man" does an honest appraisal
of one of his peers.

now I have to respect Mr. Wilcox more than I did!

Kev

a reply to: Willtell

What triggers conversion disorder is an interesting question alright.

Now.. i don't have hard numbers.. just guesses..

but I'd say that easily 50% of all "UFO sightings" are due to conversion disorder..
in the back of someone's mind they want to see a "UFO" so eventually they do.

I'm pretty certain this is how the "control loop" was and IS being tested.

When I met with JV, I told him my theory about SWR was that at least in part,
it's purpose was to test the control loop, and he didn't disagree.

I think, like David Wilcox correctly said. "they" badly want to control the
narrative..

and the major way that you get people to see "UFOs" is to keep telling
them that they are there...

Then they see them... it's that simple.

Now.. the question I care about 10x more.. is this one:

"why did the golden age of UFOs end"?

I mean incidents like Kelly Hopkinsville.. etc... all those hundreds/thousands
of incidents that looked like Leprechauns and Faeries were playing tricks
on us..

Those days are gone...

What changed?

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: Willtell

The first 4 minutes or so are priceless.

I'm not a big fan of Mr. Wilcox either.. but he hit the whole TDL thing out of the park..
he confirmed what various people on here have said about the Hilary/Podesta/
control the narrative angle..

I love it when one famous "nearly flim flam man" does an honest appraisal
of one of his peers.

now I have to respect Mr. Wilcox more than I did!

Kev

I had the same feeling. He really condensed what ails TTSA in a few succinct words.


He basically says they're a little late coming to the party and that their hors-d'oeuvres are kind of stale

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Perhaps we need to know when the golden age really might start.

Oh jeez. Get a load of this:

I still don’t know if these guys are TTSA linked, but the tone makes me suspicious

originally posted by: 1ofthe9
Oh jeez. Get a load of this:

I still don’t know if these guys are TTSA linked, but the tone makes me suspicious

Yeah I see what you mean. I think it's kind of a giveaway that they used the Delonge spelling of "Sekret." All in on the consciousness aspect too. If not a team TTS member they're friends of or fanboys of. It even sounds a little like Tom lol.

Pretty convoluted apologetics too (not to mention convoluted writing): If you question/critique TTS you're complicit with helping government factions continue the 70-yr coverup and true nature of the phenomena.

The other point worth mentioning is the actual ufologists themselves, why then are high ranking researchers acting in such a bizarre manner when they have the opportunity to have real truth out to the public and not speculation.

Is it that they do not trust AATIP and it’s roots within the intelligence world, 70 years of lies engages natural mistrust. But these aren’t the same people who decided on the truth embargo of 1947.

These are good people who want to improve humanity with technology and consciousness.

The other answer is uncovered when we take away the need for ‘conspiracy’, we are essentially left with ego, self importance and careerism.

To The Stars represents dramatic change, one in which the career ufologists are no longer important and won’t be credited for formal disclosure. The comradery is not to fall on ones sword, not for any form of truth they originally sought long ago. We will have disclosure but only on our own specific terms.

Why should the ‘government’ take credit for a life’s work?

Sadly the consequence means the only people who are being aided are sceptics and the elements of DOD who still fight to keep the Sekret.

If there actually is an internal war within he DOD then Ufology has sided with those who do not want disclosure.

How ironic.

a reply to: The GUT

I’ve also seen then advertising for some paranormal social media site with a ICO offering tied into it... Not sure if this is what TTSA was promising or not.

a reply to: 1ofthe9

The domain uapinfo.net was registered on 26.02.2018 through a UK based registrar. Previous post is about Hal Puthoff.

So, hardly a well established site ;-)

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BT

What if the whole TTSA thing is much simpler than it looks?

Imagine you are a government employee. But you are kinda stuck in your career. So you decide to sit it out, look for something easy to work on, something nobody really cares about so that there is little scrutiny, something like Fringe or Unknown Phenomena.

But then at some point somebody looks into what your doing, sees not much of value being achieved, and shuts your projects down. That would suck, wouldn't it?

Luckily you know some guys who know some other guys in the private or maybe entertainment industry, who are totally into all that fringe stuff. An opportunity to good to let pass by?

And so TTSA is born.

PS:
After all AATIP was shut down because it did not produce anything of value, which is supported by the pathetic TTSA "analysis" of the videos. Elizondo must have been sitting on those videos for years, not doing anything with them, ignoring the additional information in them about zoom, distance, velocity etc.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Wilcox. I have no respect for him. I think it is more to do with a problem at KGRA radio. When 'To the Stars' was launched Jimmy Church was first a massive supporter. But as the months have passed the tide has turned.

The bitch fest against TTSA was illustrated by how Richard Dolan(who also host a show on KGRA) and Jimmy Church ripped into it back in February
Link to interview with Dolan. (It's also linked back somewhere in this thread, or maybe another of the billion threads on this topic!).

The criticism was almost totally based around the use of the 'mylar' birthday balloon in the original promo video for TTSA. Even getting the guy who debunked the photos (back in 2005 as part of a wholly different UFO case) Steve Mera on the phone to talk. Had they read this thread (ATS did get a mention) they could have also tore into the financial setup as well. But they didn't.

KGRA have been shut out of the loop. They can't get access to any insiders to interview and worse still it threatens their slice of the pie. This is all about business and convincing their own audience that TTSA is a con and a sham. Oh the irony.

a reply to: mirageman

Oh the ancient aliens appearances are all that I needed not to respect Mr. Wilcox.
But I did enjoy his honest and accurate rip in the first couple minutes.
Then he switched to his normal drekk.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Wilcox is up there with that Martian marine commando guy.

Oh my! Where's humanoidlord we need him


Looks like Zondo and Delboy will be meeting the Boys from Brazil in May.



My Portuguese isn't exactly...well...I did my best but the translation below may not be accurate...

UFO Magazine has just confirmed further international participation in the XXIII Brazilian Congress of Ufology, from May 25 to 27 in Porto Alegre.... Luis Elizondo, former head of the Advanced Program for the Identification of Aerospace Threats (AATIP), the UFO research initiative of the Pentagon, will attend the event. We can now confirm the participation of former lead singer of the band Blink182 Tom DeLonge if he can control that sniffing like he does on some videos....those interested should hurry because he needs your money.


English Translation (Google)

Maybe they intend to pick up some more Ubatuba UFO pieces on the way back for Jacques? Nobody knows for sure.

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: mirageman

Oh the ancient aliens appearances are all that I needed not to respect Mr. Wilcox.
But I did enjoy his honest and accurate rip in the first couple minutes.
Then he switched to his normal drekk.

I warned you about going beyond 4 minutes where you’d get the cabal talk

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Around that time someone made a concerted effort to buy up all the information.

I’ve come to the conclusion that the only thing of real interest is the debilitating brain disorder Dr Green identified in many experiencers. The one that leads to the 25% mortality rate.

a reply to: ctj83

I wonder if the 25% mortality rate is mostly due to suicide?

There is certainly a pattern of UFO experiences doing that.

I think this is a must read per what we’ve been discussing.

a reply to: 1ofthe9

This is fantastic!!!

Thank you very much :-D


ETA: Watch the videos....

Anyway, I have decided to go back to being a firm and unshakable believer in the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis out of spite .

All this talk about consciousness, dimensions and greek gods are just too much...

Nuts and bolts and extraterrestrials it is, for me, with a smattering of secret technology.
If it can't be that, then it can just s*d off.

Ah, that felt good.

BT