Indecision 2018

Well, it's 2018 now and with that brings yet another election year. To be honest, I haven't recovered from the 2016 one yet. I still feel so raw inside after all the petty bickering, name calling, and vastly lowering of the bar that was engaged on both sides (though one side in particular more than the other).

Well seeing as how the lead bar lowerer is still politically relevant I'm guessing that 2018 elections will probably be just as bad if not worse. Fun... Determining political positions by who has the best zingers is SURELY going to take us far in the world. That was sarcasm by the way.

So in any case, before we leap at each other's throats due to idiotic political tribalism can we all take a quick breath and repeat after me, "Deny ignorance!"? We need to show these jackasses that playground antics shouldn't be acceptable political debate tools.

I'm not holding my breath though and have my puke bin ready anyways.

I used to be indecisive.

But now I'm not so sure ...

a reply to: Krazysh0t

You could do what I have done.........disengage from politics.

Look at it this way. Life is too short for politics....especially US politics, which just gets dumber each year going forward. Disengagement works for the Italians where the idiots, i.e., those who ARE engaged, i.e., vote, regularly elect porn stars and Mafiosi to their Parliment, which is even less capable than the US Congress.

Think about it man, US politics produces results like Sheila Jackson Lee and Maxine Waters, Sara Palin and John McCain. You really want to be part of that?

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I think we should start a campaign to have the Deny ignorance banner put back on the side of the page , seems to me some here have forgotten what this site used to be about.

At least the mid terms aren't until November.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

To be honest, I haven't recovered from the 2016 one yet. I still feel so raw inside after all the petty bickering, name calling, and vastly lowering of the bar that was engaged on both sides (though one side in particular more than the other).

Seriously? SMFH

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I think we should start a campaign to have the Deny ignorance banner put back on the side of the page , seems to me some here have forgotten what this site used to be about.

At least the mid terms aren't until November.

Yeah , I concur . ^^^^^^^

a reply to: Krazysh0t


If You look into politics™ as "They ALL $u¢k..." then You'll always be 'correct' You know if'n You are one of those type folks, these folks usually NEED to get in that last word too..

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: Krazysh0t

You could do what I have done.........disengage from politics.

Look at it this way. Life is too short for politics....especially US politics, which just gets dumber each year going forward. Disengagement works for the Italians where the idiots, i.e., those who ARE engaged, i.e., vote, regularly elect porn stars and Mafiosi to their Parliment, which is even less capable than the US Congress.

Think about it man, US politics produces results like Sheila Jackson Lee and Maxine Waters, Sara Palin and John McCain. You really want to be part of that?

Best dang post on US politics yet.
And it seems as if the only folks committing themselves to US politics cannot vote in US political elections....
What is up with that ?

Vote for your favorite team of parasites.

a reply to: TonyS

Disengagement just leads to acceptance from a lack of resistance. It may be distasteful, but if you don't engage then how can discourse know that it is wrong? I could easily stop paying attention to politics, but that won't necessarily improve the conditions of the country that bad politicians are destroying due to a lack of attention to their actions.

a reply to: gortex

Yeah. We need to bring that back. Make ATS great again.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Man, I've been waiting for these elections since mid-November of 2016. My hope is that politicians get so caught up in campaigning that they don't get anything major done this year. I'll even settle for them only passing last minute changes before the next Congress is sworn in.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

Oh don't get me wrong, I went them to happen too. I'm just not ready for the vitriol that will be spewed over the next year.

I get amazed by those who think that apathy towards politics--the actual thing that threatens to consistently reduce our rights and freedoms--is the appropriate course of action. If anything, the mid-term election cycle is the one that you should care about the most, because that is the one where people who are actually supposed to represent us and our interests are running for office.

If you choose to disengage from the process, that's fine, but let's not pretend that you're taking the intelligent high road on the matter.

I don't believe that the problem is with those who choose to engage the political process, I think that the problem is that those who bitch and complain about the process the most never put their money where their mouth is and run for office and try to change things. But, no, they are more content to just sit back and preach from the comfort of a computer screen or disengage themselves altogether (and then proceed to whine and moan about the process and outcomes in the aftermath).

Talk about self-fulfilling prophecies...

a reply to: Krazysh0t

This year has only solidified my belief that our "political party system is broken" after witnessing...

-Blatant lying
-Double talk
-Self-governing politicians protecting themselves
-Contradictions
-Catering to the 10%
-Ignoring the 90%
-Watching and hearing representatives who know full well they're lying through their teeth to protect the president, yet
ignoring their duty to protect the constitution and the people of this country
-Both parties focusing and jockeying for control instead of addressing critical domestic issues
-Divisiveness and the lack of negotiation when it comes to legislating between both parties
-A total lack of credibility
-Abuse of power
-Numerous deregulation that not only affect the environment but consumers and workers
-Ever increasing multi-million dollar career politicians
-The democratic party rigging their support for Hillary Clinton
-Incompetency, lack of self-control and temperament, and childish behavior from the office of the most powerful nation in
the world.
-Putting party before morality

Until the U.S. eliminates the party system, creates term limits, and gives the people more power to vote on legislation in the voting booth which is critical to the majority of Americans, the American people will continue to lose control of our government. Money, powerful influences and the need for power has corrupted our political system.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I predict whichever party controls the state house that party will win that states elections.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

It's funny your avatar is from South Park because I was going to mention the last election was like choosing either a douche or a turd.

I wholeheartedly agree with the 'playground antics' remark-it's time the politicians stop with the mudslinging and rhetoric and ask the voters what they think, voting for popularity is for reality shows,not politics despite the candidates best efforts to make it seem like the former.

a reply to: WeRpeons

I really doubt that getting rid of parties will fix anything. People are tribal nature. Even if we disbanded the Democrat and Republican parties tomorrow, new ones would just show up. I'm, instead, in favor of expanding the party system to a three party system. This gives an odd number of opinions while also keeping the number of opinions low (so as not to dilute majorities) to serve as a tie breaker.

a reply to: SlapMonkey

You and I are in agreement on this one. Even if I have to hold my nose and turn my face up, I will wade into the mud to make sure my wants are expressed through my votes.