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originally posted by: GuidedKill
originally posted by: infolurker
originally posted by: GuidedKill
originally posted by: deuceawesome
originally posted by: GuidedKill
I actually think MJ and ecig are about on par as far as carcinogens go.
Than you just 100% proved your ignorance on the matter. Marijuana when combusted has numerous carcinogens. Anything that burns and is inhaled does. Vaporizing liquid does not burn,which means no smoke, which means no carcinogens.
That’s my opinion... I thought we already covered each other’s opinions. Yours or mine doesn’t matter as you pointed out.
What I posted on e cigs was information from the American lung Association and their studies or others. They contradict your opinion since you haven’t posted anything as counter argument from a a center on par with the American lung association. When you do I’ll listen to your facts or counter argument. Saying what I posted is a hit piece is a little disingenuous considering I highly doubt the American lung Association is promoting big tobacco.
E-cigarettes around 95% less harmful than tobacco estimates landmark review
www.gov.uk...
Long-term vaping 'far safer than smoking' says 'landmark' study
www.nhs.uk...
More than half of British vapers have now quit smoking tobacco, study suggests
www.telegraph.co.uk...
10 research studies to silence the vape skeptics
vaping360.com...
Without even reading your articles. I’ll go off the titles.
95% safer?? What’s in the other 5%? Rainbows and unicorns?
Long term vaping far safer??? Don’t see anything that says 100% safe or even 100% safer.
So more than half British smokers addicted to cigarettes are now addicted to vaping? So they are just addicted to something else harmful to them?
originally posted by: infolurker
originally posted by: GuidedKill
originally posted by: infolurker
originally posted by: GuidedKill
originally posted by: deuceawesome
originally posted by: GuidedKill
I actually think MJ and ecig are about on par as far as carcinogens go.
Than you just 100% proved your ignorance on the matter. Marijuana when combusted has numerous carcinogens. Anything that burns and is inhaled does. Vaporizing liquid does not burn,which means no smoke, which means no carcinogens.
That’s my opinion... I thought we already covered each other’s opinions. Yours or mine doesn’t matter as you pointed out.
What I posted on e cigs was information from the American lung Association and their studies or others. They contradict your opinion since you haven’t posted anything as counter argument from a a center on par with the American lung association. When you do I’ll listen to your facts or counter argument. Saying what I posted is a hit piece is a little disingenuous considering I highly doubt the American lung Association is promoting big tobacco.
E-cigarettes around 95% less harmful than tobacco estimates landmark review
www.gov.uk...
Long-term vaping 'far safer than smoking' says 'landmark' study
www.nhs.uk...
More than half of British vapers have now quit smoking tobacco, study suggests
www.telegraph.co.uk...
10 research studies to silence the vape skeptics
vaping360.com...
Without even reading your articles. I’ll go off the titles.
95% safer?? What’s in the other 5%? Rainbows and unicorns?
Long term vaping far safer??? Don’t see anything that says 100% safe or even 100% safer.
So more than half British smokers addicted to cigarettes are now addicted to vaping? So they are just addicted to something else harmful to them?
OMG,
Eating food is not 100% safe! Nothing is 100% safe.
Let's get real. Vaping is a lifesaver for smokers.
originally posted by: GuidedKill
originally posted by: infolurker
originally posted by: GuidedKill
originally posted by: infolurker
originally posted by: GuidedKill
originally posted by: deuceawesome
originally posted by: GuidedKill
I actually think MJ and ecig are about on par as far as carcinogens go.
Than you just 100% proved your ignorance on the matter. Marijuana when combusted has numerous carcinogens. Anything that burns and is inhaled does. Vaporizing liquid does not burn,which means no smoke, which means no carcinogens.
That’s my opinion... I thought we already covered each other’s opinions. Yours or mine doesn’t matter as you pointed out.
What I posted on e cigs was information from the American lung Association and their studies or others. They contradict your opinion since you haven’t posted anything as counter argument from a a center on par with the American lung association. When you do I’ll listen to your facts or counter argument. Saying what I posted is a hit piece is a little disingenuous considering I highly doubt the American lung Association is promoting big tobacco.
E-cigarettes around 95% less harmful than tobacco estimates landmark review
www.gov.uk...
Long-term vaping 'far safer than smoking' says 'landmark' study
www.nhs.uk...
More than half of British vapers have now quit smoking tobacco, study suggests
www.telegraph.co.uk...
10 research studies to silence the vape skeptics
vaping360.com...
Without even reading your articles. I’ll go off the titles.
95% safer?? What’s in the other 5%? Rainbows and unicorns?
Long term vaping far safer??? Don’t see anything that says 100% safe or even 100% safer.
So more than half British smokers addicted to cigarettes are now addicted to vaping? So they are just addicted to something else harmful to them?
OMG,
Eating food is not 100% safe! Nothing is 100% safe.
Let's get real. Vaping is a lifesaver for smokers.
I never argued that. I totally agree with you.
However for people to say vaping is 100% harmless or safe is just plain lying. Is it 100 times better than smoking?? Sure, maybe even a thousand times better. But the op is focusing on kids and cloud chasing. And for people who vape to encourage this behavior by lying and saying it’s 100% safe is crazy..
originally posted by: Caver78
People have been dripping for YEARS at this point,
Dangerous?
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Most I know don't even use tobacco flavored juice or anything with nicotine.
Lighten up!!!
originally posted by: burgerbuddy
originally posted by: Caver78
People have been dripping for YEARS at this point,
Dangerous?
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Most I know don't even use tobacco flavored juice or anything with nicotine.
Lighten up!!!
True.
Those big cloud people use flavored juices with low or 0 nicotine.
I use 18% nicotine with no flavoring/smell. Low cloud, great for the movies and malls.
For me it's a delivery system, like a patch but better.
originally posted by: infolurker
originally posted by: GuidedKill
originally posted by: infolurker
originally posted by: GuidedKill
originally posted by: deuceawesome
originally posted by: GuidedKill
I actually think MJ and ecig are about on par as far as carcinogens go.
Than you just 100% proved your ignorance on the matter. Marijuana when combusted has numerous carcinogens. Anything that burns and is inhaled does. Vaporizing liquid does not burn,which means no smoke, which means no carcinogens.
That’s my opinion... I thought we already covered each other’s opinions. Yours or mine doesn’t matter as you pointed out.
What I posted on e cigs was information from the American lung Association and their studies or others. They contradict your opinion since you haven’t posted anything as counter argument from a a center on par with the American lung association. When you do I’ll listen to your facts or counter argument. Saying what I posted is a hit piece is a little disingenuous considering I highly doubt the American lung Association is promoting big tobacco.
E-cigarettes around 95% less harmful than tobacco estimates landmark review
www.gov.uk...
Long-term vaping 'far safer than smoking' says 'landmark' study
www.nhs.uk...
More than half of British vapers have now quit smoking tobacco, study suggests
www.telegraph.co.uk...
10 research studies to silence the vape skeptics
vaping360.com...
Without even reading your articles. I’ll go off the titles.
95% safer?? What’s in the other 5%? Rainbows and unicorns?
Long term vaping far safer??? Don’t see anything that says 100% safe or even 100% safer.
So more than half British smokers addicted to cigarettes are now addicted to vaping? So they are just addicted to something else harmful to them?
OMG,
Eating food is not 100% safe! Nothing is 100% safe.
Let's get real. Vaping is a lifesaver for smokers.
originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: TheLotLizard
He said it was low cloud. No one would even know.
originally posted by: MisterSpock
a reply to: Caver78
Wow, YEARS, and no known issues.
Yup, must be 100 percent safe, I mean if a small sample of people have done it for years then it's pretty much settled medical science.
Personally, i'm far from a "hippie", but manufactured chemicals being sold hastily for a profit is not something I'd put a lot of faith into as being something that will "turn out okay in the end".
20 years from now, this could be a huge problem and the only way to see is wait for the data(time) to roll in. In the mean time, I'll refrain from using cheap most likely chinese made chemicals to make "phat clouds" will rocking my beats and skinny jeans.
originally posted by: TheLotLizard
originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: TheLotLizard
He said it was low cloud. No one would even know.
A cloud is a cloud is it not? Is talking in the movie theater acceptable because your voice is “low”? What about having your cell phone ringer on if the volume is “low”
originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: TheLotLizard
Agreed, but in the dark no one would or could know because he said it was LOW CLOUD, in other words very very little cloud especially in the dark theater. Cell phone is an audible alarm, unless it is so low you would consider it LOW AUDIBLE ALARM, in other word no one can hear it.
originally posted by: TheLotLizard
originally posted by: burgerbuddy
originally posted by: Caver78
People have been dripping for YEARS at this point,
Dangerous?
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Most I know don't even use tobacco flavored juice or anything with nicotine.
Lighten up!!!
True.
Those big cloud people use flavored juices with low or 0 nicotine.
I use 18% nicotine with no flavoring/smell. Low cloud, great for the movies and malls.
For me it's a delivery system, like a patch but better.
Why would you be using a vape in the movie theaters? That is the definition of a douchebag.
Most buildings don’t even allow vaping in them anymore anyways.
originally posted by: TheLotLizard
originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: TheLotLizard
Agreed, but in the dark no one would or could know because he said it was LOW CLOUD, in other words very very little cloud especially in the dark theater. Cell phone is an audible alarm, unless it is so low you would consider it LOW AUDIBLE ALARM, in other word no one can hear it.
Have you seen a vape inside the movie theaters? A small pen with “low” vapor is still very visible in contrast to a bright screen if the cloud goes in front of someone else.
It’s really not rocket science.
If he can’t handle watching a movie without having to vape he shouldn’t be watching the movie.
This is all coming from someone who’s been a smoker/vaper for 20 years.
originally posted by: TheLotLizard
originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: TheLotLizard
Agreed, but in the dark no one would or could know because he said it was LOW CLOUD, in other words very very little cloud especially in the dark theater. Cell phone is an audible alarm, unless it is so low you would consider it LOW AUDIBLE ALARM, in other word no one can hear it.
Have you seen a vape inside the movie theaters? A small pen with “low” vapor is still very visible in contrast to a bright screen if the cloud goes in front of someone else.
It’s really not rocket science.
If he can’t handle watching a movie without having to vape he shouldn’t be watching the movie.
.