How cold is too cold? Baltimore students sat in cold

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Ok, I live in the frozen tundra so I don't have a lot of sympathy, but is 62 really considered "freezing" and
too cold to function?

The kids here would consider 62 degrees hot in the spring, they must have recess as long as it
is 8 degrees. These people would probably think that is child abuse! It was 11 degrees this morning and both my kids refused to put gloves on!
Yesterday was 13 and I heard multiple people say how it didn't feel too bad

a reply to: JAGStorm

Thats sweater weather where I am from.
I am sitting here shirtless and its 68 degrees inside right now.

Coming from a Canadian who has worn shorts at -20....0 sympathy.

Quite pathetic.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
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Ok, I live in the frozen tundra so I don't have a lot of sympathy, but is 62 really considered "freezing" and
too cold to function?

The kids here would consider 62 degrees hot in the spring, they must have recess as long as it
is 8 degrees. These people would probably think that is child abuse! It was 11 degrees this morning and both my kids refused to put gloves on!
Yesterday was 13 and I heard multiple people say how it didn't feel too bad

My area was -40° last week. Have them come here for a week. 62° would be glorious

a reply to: JAGStorm

No. Its a stupid complaint.

Ugh. The union president said they were forced to try to learn "in dangerously low temperatures."

Come on.

a reply to: KansasGirl

That is what I am curious about, in what world is that dangerously low?
I know some people aren't used to the cold, and I get that, but is it actually considered dangerous?
I thought that cold was good for kids, they produce a lot of heat.

Is it really the teachers that are cold and wimpy?

Sat freezing. At 62 degrees F, which is 16 degrees Celsius.

I think not. Unless these students grew up in Sub Saharan Africa.

a reply to: JAGStorm

62 degrees inside during the winter IS cold. Most thermostats in the winter are set to 75 or above. MAYBE 70. Baltimore City has been hovering around single digits to 20 degrees out for about a month now. Leaving that freezing cold to sit in 62 degree temperature inside is still cold no ifs ands or buts about it.

Also, just because you can survive in colder temperatures and are used to them doesn't mean that people (especially CHILDREN) in other areas that don't experience your temperature conditions should be able to handle them.

It's like this thread is in a huge rush to show who can be the least empathetic poster on ATS.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Suck it up, buttercup.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

75😳F
That's way too hot.

My thermostat sits at 18 Celsius, which is 64.4F. Before I converted that to Fahrenheit I was expecting it to come out closer to 70...so 75 F = 23.8. Yep, that's too hot, people get too cold when they go outside, if they're too conditioned to hot indoors, during the winter

62 needs a sweater or light jacket, but not gloves and mittens....although any kids sitting near a window will be colder

originally posted by: JAGStorm
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Ok, I live in the frozen tundra so I don't have a lot of sympathy, but is 62 really considered "freezing" and
too cold to function?

The kids here would consider 62 degrees hot in the spring, they must have recess as long as it
is 8 degrees. These people would probably think that is child abuse! It was 11 degrees this morning and both my kids refused to put gloves on!
Yesterday was 13 and I heard multiple people say how it didn't feel too bad

I have lived in So Cali for 10 years, and coming from the Midwest, where it was COLD. Now that I have been out here for so long, when I have gone back to visit, its always a shock to me. I am not used to it. I mean it literally never bothered me, but now, when visiting I am taken back. I could never live back there again. I like my Sunshine, and nice mild winters.

a reply to: snowspirit

My grandmom sets her thermostat to 80 in the winter. It's really up to the person how they feel comfortable. If kids are sitting around the classrooms in coats and hats on then it's PROBABLY too cold inside the building. It doesn't help that most Baltimore City schools are old and thus very porous, so they don't retain heat very well.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

The draft from leaks is the worst. If the weather keeps getting colder in the winters in the US, schools being properly insulated should be part of infrastructure spending 🤔

Up here, they're having problems in schools with plumbing breaking down, water pipes breaking, even though they know it gets this cold every winter....you'd think they'd build things better from the start

My mother in law used to set the house heat so hot in the winter, you'd walk in from the cold and almost get sick. In the summer, she crank up the air conditioning to ridiculously cold, fans in every room....

a reply to: snowspirit

Ugh... I can't stand doing that. I prefer to avoid using AC or the house heating because it costs so much money. I'll use space heaters until it gets too cold for them to warm the room (then I'll break down and put the heat on, but not too high) and then I'll use fans unless it gets too humid (not so much hot, it's the humidity in bmore that makes things suffocating) and then I'll use a window mounted AC to only cool down the room I'm in.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

I find it ironic that parents are OUTRAGED at the 62 degrees "freezing" schools, absolutely outraged, but not outraged at this:

6 Baltimore schools, no students proficient in state tests

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is it too cold? well that all depends on what temperatures those kids are used to. someone from Canada or the northern states can easily handle it.in fact in the winter some might even be wearing shorts an t-shirts. yet for someone used to hotter temperatures, it could easily be far too cold. humans like animals get acclimatized to the temps they normally live in. when i was a kid on the northern end of things, this temp would have been fine. in fact i might not have even wanted a sweater or anything on. yet after living in a much warmer area for several years i now find that at 77f i am cold. in fact last summer while around Toronto, the only days i really felt warm enough to take my jacket off, were the days they were going on about dangerous heat alerts and warnings. on the other hand when i was in the desert areas like the badlands and places like California and Las Vegas, when most people were almost sweating to death in the sweltering heat, i was quite comfortable. even when i visited Hawaii a couple or so years back, i found it on the cool side, especially at night when i would wear a jacket. in fact where i am, when the temperature gets down around 77f people will be wearing toques and other warm hats as well as jackets. when people go up into the mountain areas where the temperature can get down around 62f, people who don't live there end up wearing heavy winter jackets. because they are literally freezing cold. seriously you wouldn't think you would see fur hats, including those with fur ear coverings like those Russian hats, in a tropical country, yet especially up in the mountains they are for sale everywhere. this is because the people are acclimatized to the hotter temperatures and not the colder temperatures.

i would definitely be having issues in such a cold temperature as low as 62f, especially for long periods and sitting still as you do for school at this time. and i know most kids here would barely be able to function in school in such COLD temperatures. possibly even suffering from hyperthermia if they were not careful.

a reply to: generik

I agree with you because you are acclimated to a much much warmer climate, or maybe even someone from Florida complaining but this is Baltimore, Baltimore however gets cold in the winter.
Here are the average highs and lows:


Jan 23.5°F 41.2°F
Feb 26.1°F 44.8°F
Mar 33.6°F 53.9°F
Apr 42.0°F 64.5°F

hummm Well first I live in Florida so rarly gets cold (this last week its been colder then in 15 years and snow in Tallahassee .
Anyway even with this the heat is set on 68 during the day and 66 at night .
The grand-kids 4 year old boy 5 year old girl just dont care they still want to run around in shorts LOL its a fight to get them to ware coats and hats .
I like sitting on the back porch with my pipe and they try going out with bare feet i Usaly yell get back in the house and get shoes and socks 5 times a day.

Give your self 3 days and your body will adapt to a temp swing of 20 % F. In summer when temps gets 95 F its hot a 80 % day is a cool brezze in fall 75 is hot the first 65 day is a nice cool brezze in winter the first below 60 day is cold then warm two days later .
and so on when I was a kid i lived up- north even - 20 did not faze use as kids coats gloves ( which got lost quickly and spend all day playing ice hockey my advice is get out of the house more .

Sometime I wonder how humans ever made it this far really 62 lol humans survived the ice age and cross to america using Ice bridges when the temps were - 40 Wearing little more then animal skins .
lord and your such a tuff dude who will kick every one but lol

If thous guys could see you now they would laugh .

O just how do you think people lived even 100 years agaio ? they did not have centerial heat
It was 100 out side it was darn near 100 inside it was 20 out side it was at most 50 inside with a crappy fireplace - wood burning stove ( if you were lucky enough to have one .
I imange pioneers did not haul along fireplaces and wood burring stoves lol

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: generik

I agree with you because you are acclimated to a much much warmer climate, or maybe even someone from Florida complaining but this is Baltimore, Baltimore however gets cold in the winter.
Here are the average highs and lows:


Jan 23.5°F 41.2°F
Feb 26.1°F 44.8°F
Mar 33.6°F 53.9°F
Apr 42.0°F 64.5°F

It was 8 degrees out two days ago in Baltimore.