Trump slams Pakistan for 'lies & deceit' in New Year's tweet

For those who hate Trump, maybe you'd rather just give them more money for their weapons program? Like the last 15 yrs because like, you have a hate on for the guy? Stupid reason to go after him while he's trying to fix the effed up stuff done before he became President. Yeah, no.

The United States has foolishly given Pakistan more than 33 billion dollars in aid over the last 15 years — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)

a reply to: queenofswords

Um, I don't think he believes what he is being told, and thinks that his way is the only way. He is posturing, and as long as the money continues to flow to Pakistan, then it will be fine. However, if he stops the money going to Pakistan, then they would take actions in turn to hamper and stop the US in that part of the world.

And what is far worse, is that they would turn more towards China as an ally, and ultimately that would pretty much mean the US may be in a far worse position in that part of the world, and lessening the strategic interest of the USA. As much as many people would hate to admit it, the US does have a vested strategic interest in Pakistan. To lose that alliance or interest would harm the USA in the long run.

originally posted by: sdcigarpig
a reply to: Wide-Eyes

Yeah, I am pretty sure. The bases are suppose to be temporary, to support operations that are currently going. However, they do need supplies, and reinforcements.

Now if Pakistan cuts off that supply line, then what do you think will happen to the 11,000 US military personnel present in Afghanistan? While they should be able to hold out for a month, not barring anything major, but a coordinated attack, hitting key points, like say an ammo dump, or more IED's to take out vehicles and then what? No replacements, means that the operating capacity of those troops starts to dwindle down.

Maybe obama needed them but Mattis doesn't.

a reply to: burgerbuddy

Oh Trump needs them, as I stated before they are in a strategic position. If you look at a map of the world, there are very few ways to get into Afghanistan. Now the US could try to go through China and come from the North, but I do not think that China will allow the US to move military equipment or persons through its country to get to Afghanistan. And do you honestly think Iran, will? So that leaves Pakistan, as the only rout.

But more importantly, Pakistan is at where the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea meets, and where the Straits of Hormuz happens to start when going from the Arabian Sea into the Persian Gulf. Now if the US fully insults and cuts off the money to Pakistan, what do you think that Pakistan may or could do?

Well first would be to strengthen diplomatic channels and ties with 2 of its neighbors, namely China to the North and Iran to the West. And would it not be interesting if say both Iran and Pakistan decide to allow for China to put say a naval base in their countries along with say strengthening ties between all three countries, including military interests? After all how much oil does the US really need or want coming from that part of the world? If they were to say block the Straits, and say not allow ships carrying crude leaving and going to the USA, that would really put pressure on the USA.

a reply to: Blender5L

Well considering they are the largest charity in the world and have educated people without means all over the world they are an important entity.

I have thought about it plenty. I was a philosophy major in college and took plenty of theology.

While I find plenty wrong with the church it's not the dark ages anymore. This pope in particular is a different kind of man.

The people that meet at trumps resorts are plenty shady by the way.

a reply to: luthier

I can see how you would easily think 'this' Pope is different from all the rest, but i'm not buying it. The Church owns this pope like it owned every Pope before him. It's like lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig right? They're trying to improve on their image because they've been pedo capitol of the world for over a thousand years or so. New Image, New Customers, but the same old damn problems as always. They do business a certain way, always have always will do. Having one new puppet ain't gonna change that.

originally posted by: sdcigarpig
a reply to: Wide-Eyes

Yeah, I am pretty sure. The bases are suppose to be temporary, to support operations that are currently going. However, they do need supplies, and reinforcements.

Now if Pakistan cuts off that supply line, then what do you think will happen to the 11,000 US military personnel present in Afghanistan? While they should be able to hold out for a month, not barring anything major, but a coordinated attack, hitting key points, like say an ammo dump, or more IED's to take out vehicles and then what? No replacements, means that the operating capacity of those troops starts to dwindle down.

pakistan will get regime change if they dont chill.

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Blender5L

Well considering they are the largest charity in the world and have educated people without means all over the world they are an important entity.

I have thought about it plenty. I was a philosophy major in college and took plenty of theology.

While I find plenty wrong with the church it's not the dark ages anymore. This pope in particular is a different kind of man.

The people that meet at trumps resorts are plenty shady by the way.

Wrong thread bro!

originally posted by: Blender5L
a reply to: luthier

I can see how you would easily think 'this' Pope is different from all the rest, but i'm not buying it. The Church owns this pope like it owned every Pope before him. It's like lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig right? They're trying to improve on their image because they've been pedo capitol of the world for over a thousand years or so. New Image, New Customers, but the same old damn problems as always. They do business a certain way, always have always will do. Having one new puppet ain't gonna change that.

WTF?

a reply to: sdcigarpig

we have domestic oil we sell them in the med. We dont need their oil.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: sdcigarpig
a reply to: Wide-Eyes

Yeah, I am pretty sure. The bases are suppose to be temporary, to support operations that are currently going. However, they do need supplies, and reinforcements.

Now if Pakistan cuts off that supply line, then what do you think will happen to the 11,000 US military personnel present in Afghanistan? While they should be able to hold out for a month, not barring anything major, but a coordinated attack, hitting key points, like say an ammo dump, or more IED's to take out vehicles and then what? No replacements, means that the operating capacity of those troops starts to dwindle down.

pakistan will get regime change if they dont chill.

Well you're going to have your hands full with all this regime change, so Pakistan, Iran and nth Korea.... Good luck with that.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Yeah, the PNAC is well behind schedule. I think a rush at this point would be suicide for the MIC.

a reply to: Wide-Eyes

This is all moving so fast how can anyone keep up, we're all going to get tweeted to death at this rate.

a reply to: Blender5L


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a reply to: Wide-Eyes

Did you read his opening post? He mentions the Vatican or am I in the wrong thread?

originally posted by: Blender5L
a reply to: luthier

I can see how you would easily think 'this' Pope is different from all the rest, but i'm not buying it. The Church owns this pope like it owned every Pope before him. It's like lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig right? They're trying to improve on their image because they've been pedo capitol of the world for over a thousand years or so. New Image, New Customers, but the same old damn problems as always. They do business a certain way, always have always will do. Having one new puppet ain't gonna change that.

You could see that? Why because I am aware of his life before being pope?

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: sdcigarpig
a reply to: Wide-Eyes

Yeah, I am pretty sure. The bases are suppose to be temporary, to support operations that are currently going. However, they do need supplies, and reinforcements.

Now if Pakistan cuts off that supply line, then what do you think will happen to the 11,000 US military personnel present in Afghanistan? While they should be able to hold out for a month, not barring anything major, but a coordinated attack, hitting key points, like say an ammo dump, or more IED's to take out vehicles and then what? No replacements, means that the operating capacity of those troops starts to dwindle down.

pakistan will get regime change if they dont chill.

Well you're going to have your hands full with all this regime change, so Pakistan, Iran and nth Korea.... Good luck with that.

sigh. i see you didnt get the sarcasm.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: sdcigarpig
a reply to: Wide-Eyes

Yeah, I am pretty sure. The bases are suppose to be temporary, to support operations that are currently going. However, they do need supplies, and reinforcements.

Now if Pakistan cuts off that supply line, then what do you think will happen to the 11,000 US military personnel present in Afghanistan? While they should be able to hold out for a month, not barring anything major, but a coordinated attack, hitting key points, like say an ammo dump, or more IED's to take out vehicles and then what? No replacements, means that the operating capacity of those troops starts to dwindle down.

pakistan will get regime change if they dont chill.

Well you're going to have your hands full with all this regime change, so Pakistan, Iran and nth Korea.... Good luck with that.

sigh. i see you didnt get the sarcasm.

I did miss the sarcasm, only because the amount of Trump supporters on this site that consider regime change... Winning...

a reply to: luthier

I'm not sure exactly what it is you gauge your beliefs on, and really man, does it matter?

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: sdcigarpig
a reply to: Wide-Eyes

Yeah, I am pretty sure. The bases are suppose to be temporary, to support operations that are currently going. However, they do need supplies, and reinforcements.

Now if Pakistan cuts off that supply line, then what do you think will happen to the 11,000 US military personnel present in Afghanistan? While they should be able to hold out for a month, not barring anything major, but a coordinated attack, hitting key points, like say an ammo dump, or more IED's to take out vehicles and then what? No replacements, means that the operating capacity of those troops starts to dwindle down.

pakistan will get regime change if they dont chill.

Well you're going to have your hands full with all this regime change, so Pakistan, Iran and nth Korea.... Good luck with that.

sigh. i see you didnt get the sarcasm.

I did miss the sarcasm, only because the amount of Trump supporters on this site that consider regime change... Winning...

Another assumption i'm guessing. Regime change considered winning? Yeah right man. I guess you didn't notice the royal #up in charge from the last 8 years prior to Trump or were you Zzzing at the wheel?