Answering why, no camera or video footage of an alien, if we are visited so often

a reply to: makalit

Bs possession is just mental illness.
Aliens will not be demons. They may be nasty but not demonic.

originally posted by: testingtesting
So you think any intelligent life are going to be demons?. No wonder they do not make themselves known with backward thinking like that.

Demons ARE in fact intelligent life.

Backward thinking? Check your mirror...

a reply to: Murgatroid

Prove they exist.
They don't just mental illness and ignorance about the illness.
But please when et do come down please don't be our first contact send them to a person who isn't bat # potty.

Do you really think there would be thousands of demon reports in history if there was absolutely 0 aliens on Earth?

originally posted by: Archivalist
Will my first reaction be, to hold up the peace sign and say cheese? Hell no.

Indeed, hell no.

You're assuming they have weapons or know what weapons are. They may just as well not have weapons - even on this planet weapons are already becoming a rare sight (at least in the more civilised parts). Or, they may have other far more effective means to protect themselves, for example directly manipulating our thought processes.

You're also assuming they have 'video-cameras' or at least know what such camera's do. Well, they may not require such primitive means to recall a situation, they may for example, have perfect memory and be able to relay their memories to others by some other means.

You also assume they feel the need to communicate with us. Do we feel the need to communicate with our lab-rats, or our cattle, which we subsequently kill? Don't we feel far superiour to our animals - so why would they not feel (and actually be!) far superiour to us?

Peaceful visitors from outer space? A lot of assumptions. I say, proof - in as far as there is any - points in another direction.

Indeed, many of these entities seem to act as if we mean nothing to them. They abduct us, do research on us, kill some of us - all in all, they act like we do with animals or other so-called 'lower' life-forms. They also seem to manipulate our thoughts, e.g. many report seeing human-like figures, even Jesus or on the other hand totally unrecognisable blobs or shades. Also, the utter rubbish most of these entities tell you seems to point in that direction: they simply fill our minds with what - to us - is plausible, probably using our own thoughts against us. Hence, aliens from outer space often speak Earthly languages. It are our own thought processes, manipulated and played back, to distract us.

All in all, the flaw in your reasoning - to me - seems to be that you assume that visitors from "outer space' are similar to humans, so: aggressive, fragile, limited lifespan, and mostly quite stupid. Well, I think their behaviour points to them being intelligent, long lived or hive-like curious beings. In human terms they probably find themselves having a field day here, with all these wonderful lower life-forms they can study and exploit. Some of us become their meals, others their experiments, others their pets. But heck no, you don't put up signs to ask for peace, come on, do you put up signs to YOUR cattle?

IFF they are like us at all and are here already - and it seems they are - we can't do anything about it. That's probably the main reason our governments do not disclose anything: there's nothing to disclose but fear. They are here, they can do as they want, and it's only because there aren't that many of them that we are - statistically - not really in much danger. Tis best to keep silent, and allow the people to mostly live peaceful lives.

a reply to: Archivalist


They are "camera shy".. That is also the reason the "Star People" advised the Native Americans not to have their picture taken. I guess I don't have to type what they think about "Selfies" huh?

a reply to: ForteanOrg

Something cool about existence, besides all the mass complex consciousness guiding it all, is that one can do whatever they want, and if it happens, then that's just a part of existence.

I mean, you embrace the existence, this is it, so embrace it. If you see giant ladybugs 4 feet wide, that is reality. If you see thieves stealing from old ladys in dresses, this is the reality, anything can happen

If it happens (like what happened here) then it's a part of reality and one should simply embrace it- as this is what reality entails.

a reply to: Mandroid7
That's the best alien that I have seen to date, I like this one!

I do think that if anyone that was of medical knowledge would know to have gloves on, even if they were standing in the corner of the room, cooties abound, especially alien cooties!

a reply to: testingtesting

These have already proven themselves personally to millions throughout history.

If and when one of these so called "aliens" shows up in your bedroom at 3AM you'll have more proof than you know what to do with.

Research Joe Jordon (see the "Unholy Communion" video I linked on Page 1 of this thread...

a reply to: Murgatroid

Nope because I have seen the damage first hand caused by ignorant morons blaming demons when all they needed is mental health treatment.
If you continue to say possession is demons all you are doing is harming the mentally I'll.

a reply to: testingtesting

All the "ignorant morons" of ATS thank you for setting them straight.

Sorry for the misunderstanding, I actually thought for a minute you were interested in proof.

originally posted by: crankyoldman
Why is it important to anyone else that you personally have proof of anything at all? Why do I care if you have proof that ghosts, or even the statue of liberty exists? You seem to imply that it is others who need to prove to you, when in fact it is you that need to prove to yourself. Even more to the point, why is this even relevant to you at all? What difference would it actually make in your life to have "proof?"

originally posted by: crankyoldman
The word "proof" is a major problem. What you mean by proof is a way to show you in ways that are agreed upon as proof. Currently this written, science, or first hand. There is plenty of that, an inordinate amount of it, some found on the web, most not. So proof isn't what you are after, as there is more then enough of that to be easily had.

Do not ask for proof, you will never get it - ever. Ask to "know," as to "understand," ask to "feel," but don't expect another to show you something you cannot comprehend yet as that is impossible - you need to understand the language first, before you can see what is happening on the levels you question.

a reply to: Murgatroid

Make a thread but this topic is about aliens.
Valiant Thor that was the name of the human alien in the 60,s.

a reply to: testingtesting

Depending of definitions, aliens and demons are not mutually exclusive, if you watch the video linked, many of their descriptions of a feeling of "pure menace" were accurate with my own encounter.

(Oh.. from about 1:32+ in the vid)

i could relate to this one

What if aliens have no clue what a weapon is? They may not know what malice or violence even is. Until I see a UFO or alien with MY own eyes, I'll just enjoy these boards and movies about them.

a reply to: Archivalist

Your point here is that there is a civilization sufficiently advanced as to visit us here, most likely so very far away from their own home that that would be very cautious due to needing to be self defensive. I see this as a weak notion as more likely any civilization that could make it here would be so developed that they would have nothing to fear from us.

You also note the notion that they would have little knowledge of us. By our own level of technology, which by the standard you propose above by the time we might manage to get to another civilized planet, we would not be walking in blind. Our technology would be developed enough that we could know much about them from far off. And we wouldn't just ''go walking about here or there putting ourselves in jeopardy.

Of course there there IS the possibility that they can see our present situation. That they can see that it is only a matter of time until we blow ourselves up or poison ourselves or sterilize ourselves and they are just hanging around on the notion that sooner or later we will not need this planet any longer as we have given up our right to occupancy due to being such a self destructive species and when we are gone, they will move in and renovate.

Because "Sasquatch's Book of not being seen by humans"......is required reading in their star system.

a reply to: testingtesting

Its always telling when someone has to resort to the off-topic card thus proving you have no other recourse, than to narrow the focus of the topic. Congratulations. You are the millionth poster to use such juvenile tactics.

a reply to: Murgatroid

If you pay close attention, I do believe that there are true alien/UFO encounters but however, I believe a lot are hoaxes.

Jealousy breeds contempt.
They hate us.
We were made differently.
We are special.
Each of you are very very special.
Those beings are only above us for a short time.
Take a few moments in private to ask your creator as to why. I'll let him answer that directly

a reply to: Murgatroid

Hey make a thread. The facts are every case of possession is just someone who is mentally I'll.
Many deaths caused by the ignorant thinking it is possession.
But do continue causing much harm to the mentally unwell.