CNN’s John King on GOP Tax Reform: Working Families Will Get ‘Damn Good Money’

originally posted by: ausername
a reply to: amazing

This tax reform is completely opposite from obamacare which was designed to take money away from working people.

The democrats are so far on the wrong side of all of this, in the end they may never find a way back.

That too is a good thing, depending on perspective of course.

I disagree with Obama Care. If you do some google searches like how many people were hurt by Obama care or how many people were helped by Obama care you'll get wildly different answers. And I think that's how it went. It helped a lot of people and hurt some people. It was designed help people though. A lot of people talk about how their insurance went up but insurance goes up every year no matter what. Anyways, I agree that Democrats are on the wrong side of this one,

originally posted by: ausername
a reply to: amazing

This tax reform is completely opposite from obamacare which was designed to take money away from working people.

The democrats are so far on the wrong side of all of this, in the end they may never find a way back.

That too is a good thing, depending on perspective of course.

Democrats are on the side of fiscal responsibility here. Currently we're just pushing all the excess to the debt. It's a popular strategy, but not a sustainable one.

a reply to: xuenchen

The core of cnn is still anti-america/american.

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: ausername
a reply to: amazing

This tax reform is completely opposite from obamacare which was designed to take money away from working people.

The democrats are so far on the wrong side of all of this, in the end they may never find a way back.

That too is a good thing, depending on perspective of course.

I disagree with Obama Care. If you do some google searches like how many people were hurt by Obama care or how many people were helped by Obama care you'll get wildly different answers. And I think that's how it went. It helped a lot of people and hurt some people. It was designed help people though. A lot of people talk about how their insurance went up but insurance goes up every year no matter what. Anyways, I agree that Democrats are on the wrong side of this one,

Crazy obama spends $87,000 @ year on each obamacare customer. Taxpayer dollars.

Trump is trimming the fat, but obamacare is 75% fat.

That is exactly what my wife and I said.

I'm surprised this is from CNN. But I gotta hand it to John King. He actually understands this very important aspect.

a reply to: xuenchen

Yeah , Damn Good Money Spent by Damn Good People to Support a Currently Damn Good Economy that will Damn Good Help Everyone in this God Damn Country ! ........DAMN !......

originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: ausername
a reply to: amazing

This tax reform is completely opposite from obamacare which was designed to take money away from working people.

The democrats are so far on the wrong side of all of this, in the end they may never find a way back.

That too is a good thing, depending on perspective of course.

Democrats are on the side of fiscal responsibility here.

They are?

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: xuenchen

Yeah , Damn Good Money Spent by Damn Good People to Support a Currently Damn Good Economy that will Damn Good Help Everyone in this God Damn Country ! ........DAMN !......

Damn RIGHT !!

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: whywhynot

Can't wait. I was hoping we could repeal the 22nd. And just get rid of the Constitution.

Since Trump is the physical embodiment of the Constitution.

Yes, I do realize that the Left finds the Constitution of the United States an inconvenient truth. Too bad.

originally posted by: whywhynot
Did Hell freeze over?

No.
Mr Obama said you can keep your ice cubes too

originally posted by: Tempter

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: UKTruth
It's quite sickening how rich sheltered assholes in Washington DC and the media talk about $200-$300 a month as if it's nothing. They probably spend that much on lunch every day and have zero clue what that could mean to a family struggling just to make ends meet.

$200-$300 more left in each paycheck? Yes, that's "damn good money."

What amounts to an extra (almost) tank of gas per month thanks to saving $300 spread over twelve months? It helps, but it's not "damn good money."

ETA - I think that's where confusion is being exploited, is my point.

Do you even understand the situation? It appears not.

Sure, the initial tax REFUND (of collected taxes the year prior) will be about 2k-4k or more on average. That's a one-time refund.

But the COLLECTION of taxes that will be taken from each paycheck will go down about 166$-300$ per paycheck (monthly distributions) due to the lessened required amount factored in, assuming your deductions are parallel.

Are you following?

1) Initial refund amount (in 2018)

2) Less taxes owed and therefore taken from your paycheck during the year as well, assuming the IRS doesn't take until 2019 to implement the changes, those friggin pricks.

Grandpa says you are arguing about silly money . He says it is make believe, and when you wake up some day it will make good toilet paper. That's why he has gold and silver coins and big bars. He says those are real. They are real heavy and look pretty. Some have pictures on them. They are clean and don't have germs.

a reply to: xuenchen

He's right. Working class families who struggle with bills ARE in fact grateful for an extra couple hundred bucks to take the pressure off. I know people who would be grateful for fifty extra a month, thirty, twenty...anything. That's groceries, gas, clothing...I don't know anyone that works hard for a living who would turn their nose up at a little extra cash. Only people who don't know what it's like to struggle would get offended by him saying something like that.

I'd rather have scraps and crumbs than nothing at all.

originally posted by: rickymouse
I'd rather have scraps and crumbs than nothing at all.

So what happens when spending cuts in the same economy far outweigh the scraps being left under the table?

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Liquesence
Yup, throwing scraps, or crumbs, to the people as means of appeasement and them thinking they're actually coming out ahead, while ultimately screwing them as those at the top run to the bank, laughing.

Classy.

Rich people already pay an unfair amount in tax - massively unfair.
What do you want - to make it more unfair? You sound like a communist.

I hope you mean unfair as in, they do not pay nearly enough. While those like myself who make less than $30,000 a year can barely survive and will be screwed over so rich a$$#oles with private jets get more tax breaks.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: rickymouse
I'd rather have scraps and crumbs than nothing at all.

So what happens when spending cuts in the same economy far outweigh the scraps being left under the table?

What is being cut? Ive heard this argument but there doesnt seem to be anything other then spending caps set by congress that they can remove.

originally posted by: PorteurDeMort

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Liquesence
Yup, throwing scraps, or crumbs, to the people as means of appeasement and them thinking they're actually coming out ahead, while ultimately screwing them as those at the top run to the bank, laughing.

Classy.

Rich people already pay an unfair amount in tax - massively unfair.
What do you want - to make it more unfair? You sound like a communist.

I hope you mean unfair as in, they do not pay nearly enough. While those like myself who make less than $30,000 a year can barely survive and will be screwed over so rich a$$#oles with private jets get more tax breaks.

So if people make more then you their taxes should increase? And you aren't even paying taxes at less then 30000. Luckily for you others make more thenthat to help support the government and give you access to govt programs.

a reply to: Liquesence

So what make more money,just because people work hard and don't spend their money on frivilous things,like fancy cars,phones tech crap,all these millenium want the best,yet they are too lazy and self centered,to get these things,so they feel others should give them to them because they are entitled,what a bunch of losers

Just what we've always accused you asshats of. A news outlet is FAKE until it says something you like and then it's REAL. Pick-and-choose news that fits your polarized fantasy reality. FAKE POSTER but most of have known that for a long time.

originally posted by: Liquesence
Yup, throwing scraps, or crumbs, to the people as means of appeasement and them thinking they're actually coming out ahead, while ultimately screwing them as those at the top run to the bank, laughing.

Classy.

Face reality... you can't undo anything as massive as the tax code in one fell swoop. It would be unimaginably disruptive to the economy.

So what do you do? Take baby steps.

It ain't hard dude! Quit being dense and cynical!