The Hidden in Plain Sight Mars Conspiracy

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes

You ake that statement, and wonder about the speculations of others???

Alrighty, then.

You do realize, I hope, that your claim is utterly unprovable, right?

We are speculating about UFOs from Mars and we can hardly determine if that environment can handle simple life much less advance life with 100s of millions of years in a stable environment needed to evolve. Show me simple plant life before we suggest aliens flying around in UFOs...lol

The key is life happens, but advance life to happen needs time in a stable environment, and species in general are very fragile that come and go all the time.

a reply to: Aliensun

I read a book Cosmic Voyage or something or other, by a man named Courtney Brown. Through remote viewing he "discovered" that Martians were helped by Greys, to move to Earth after a planetary cataclysm.

It was a fun story. *shrugs*

originally posted by: wmd_2008
a reply to: studio500


What underground sea on Earth

The sea in general, below ground level.

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes

originally posted by: studio500
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I often ponder the finer biological details of the Grey Alien anatomy and the environment it would find most conducive. With speculation of webbed digits, large eyes, and no sex organs other than a hole reminds me of Dolphins with their grey sweat gland free fast healing skin.

The shape of a typical saucer shaped UFO is perfect for aquatic environments and the fact that we have tracked and filmed a suspected UFO diving below ocean waves would indicate the craft are adept at travel within H20 and Atmospheric mediums.

If so, such creatures could well inhabit underground lakes on Mars as the land itself appears barren and void. There could well be huge lakes under the surface of Mars providing the perfect habitat to such beings.
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Interesting idea! I seem to recall reading some speculation about underground water on Mars, as well.

originally posted by: wmd_2008
a reply to: studio500


What underground sea on Earth

You do realize that poster said Mars, not Earth, right?

Yes, that's why I said, Quote:

If so, such creatures could well inhabit underground lakes on Mars as the land itself appears barren and void. There could well be huge lakes under the surface of Mars providing the perfect habitat to such beings.

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I think it is a very plausible that underground seas could exist on Mars as they do here on Earth.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes

You make that statement, and wonder about the speculations of others???

Alrighty, then.

You do realize, I hope, that your claim is utterly unprovable, right?

We are speculating about UFOs from Mars and we can hardly determine if that environment can handle simple life much less advance life with 100s of millions of years in a stable environment needed to evolve. Show me simple plant life before we suggest aliens flying around in UFOs...lol

The key is life happens, but advance life to happen needs time in a stable environment, and species in general are very fragile that come and go all the time.

Sure, that's all fine and sensible. However, I was commenting on this:

originally posted by: Xtrozero
So once again what are the UFOs...Mars has not had a magnetic field in 3.7 billion years, so where did all this advance life evolve there?

Seeing plant life, and more, is quite sensible, before we assume there are Martians - there we agree - but claiming that anyone actually knows what happened billions of years ago? That's all speculation, too. Perhaps educated speculation, but far from proven.

Mars is fascinating, though. We know there is water, and acceptance of that was fought against for quite some time. There are other oddities, as well. No, not the "face", but various things that make one wonder. Much we don't know yet. It is certainly worth taking a closer look, to see what we can see.

originally posted by: studio500

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes

originally posted by: studio500
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I often ponder the finer biological details of the Grey Alien anatomy and the environment it would find most conducive. With speculation of webbed digits, large eyes, and no sex organs other than a hole reminds me of Dolphins with their grey sweat gland free fast healing skin.

The shape of a typical saucer shaped UFO is perfect for aquatic environments and the fact that we have tracked and filmed a suspected UFO diving below ocean waves would indicate the craft are adept at travel within H20 and Atmospheric mediums.

If so, such creatures could well inhabit underground lakes on Mars as the land itself appears barren and void. There could well be huge lakes under the surface of Mars providing the perfect habitat to such beings.
*snip*

Interesting idea! I seem to recall reading some speculation about underground water on Mars, as well.

originally posted by: wmd_2008
a reply to: studio500


What underground sea on Earth

You do realize that poster said Mars, not Earth, right?

Yes, that's why I said, Quote:

If so, such creatures could well inhabit underground lakes on Mars as the land itself appears barren and void. There could well be huge lakes under the surface of Mars providing the perfect habitat to such beings.

&

I think it is a very plausible that underground seas could exist on Mars as they do here on Earth.

Exactly! Assume the other poster simply misread. We have all done that, I am sure. I know I have, now and then,

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes

Seeing plant life, and more, is quite sensible, before we assume there are Martians - there we agree - but claiming that anyone actually knows what happened billions of years ago? That's all speculation, too. Perhaps educated speculation, but far from proven.

Mars is fascinating, though. We know there is water, and acceptance of that was fought against for quite some time. There are other oddities, as well. No, not the "face", but various things that make one wonder. Much we don't know yet. It is certainly worth taking a closer look, to see what we can see.

Not as speculative as you might think. We do know that Mars was a watery world early in the life of the solar system. We do know that Mars lost it magnetic field some time in the past. We do know the effects of that is the lost of atmosphere and water due to solar winds etc. We do know the mathematical rate at which it would lose its air/water. We can then conclude it lost its magnetic field billions of years ago, 4ish billions is the number they are using.

We can also conclude that it has been a dead planet for at least a billion years most likely much longer. At the equator the temps can go from 70F in the day on the best summer day, but will drop to -100F at night, and this would be the sweet spot for life on the planet. As we go back to the topic of UFOs from Mars we can't even suggest there has been anything but simple life forms there in very isolate cases for many billions of years.

a reply to: AtypicalJ


Water is comprised of two of the most common elements in the universe. They aren't here for water.


On forward bases: I have been following UFO's for 40 years. I suspect the original Grey's are from a nearby red dwarf star. I suspect that Mars was their waystation, but something terrible happened.


The reason we don't see armadas of ships in our sky are fairly obvious. Most of the near-in waystations were decimated a long time ago. What's left is struggling with resources and appropriations. They get a little money, they maintain a soft presence. They play up their own mythology to make themselves seem far more numerous in the Sol system than they actually are out of self-preservation.


Their true civilization is a long way's out and the high speed trains are no longer reliable.


They aren't here for gold, or water. Both are abundant throughout the solar system. Once again, the only reason to endure earthlings is the earthlings themselves. They are here for our women (or to put it in modern parlance -- our DNA) and to convert us to their wacky space religion. They are relatively few and must maintain a near-omnipotent mythology to keep us out of their "stuff."


Finally, if there is any truth to the breakaway civilization stuff we have seen over the past 20 years or so, I suspect that they nurtured those programs as well, largely because they needed some of that Yankee ingenuity to rebuilt the bridges between here and "home" -- which is probably within 10-15 l.y.