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originally posted by: slider1982
Well I am finally home,
It seems this is just gaining interest from other sites, I would say if the current reporting is anything to go by then it may well be a case to view as SHC, it seems that eye witnesses have not stated any visable foul play at this point.
PC Damien Ait-Amer, who is investigating the death, said: “We have spoken with a number of witnesses who saw Mr Nolan ablaze, but we have yet to establish how the fire started.
www.standard.co.uk...
The comments about Phones and E-cigs are will need to be addressed but thus far it seems that the authorities have nothing to go on, I would like to think if a smouldering phone or other device was noted at the scene it would be made public.
History does have numerous cases of supposed human combustion only time will tell if this will be added to the list?..
I actually have a few contacts within Haringey where this took place I will start to ask a few questions and
see what comes to light, if it is note worthy and does not cause issues to any investigation I will post up..
ADDED::: Regarding CCTV, Haringey has an absurd amount of cameras, so if this was on a main road, CCTV would exist but I know the camera network in the area "probably" will not be recording unless they are called upon to do so, they tend to capture footage from just after a situation has occurred or as it is developing.
Obviously private CCTV would be another matter..
RA
originally posted by: stormcell
When I was a teenager, I'd collect all the mystery books I could find. These had stories about entrances to underground caverns hidden by stones in streambeds, people disappearing as "holes" appeared in the basements of their homes and SHC (Spontaneous Human Combustion). The first two actually happened in modern times. Now we've got a a case of SHC.
First thing with SHC is that people burn from the inside out and that there is a blue flame. When this has happened indoors, the person was in a sealed room with a heat source like a coal or electric fire. The source of internal burning would be in the chest/stomach area. They had also been drinking wine. So a person could have become thirsty, drank some wine, dehydrated a bit more, the alcohol perfuses the body and then begins to be perspired or heat up in the stomach, and then ignite. In cases when the person was outdoors, a blue flame was seen and couldn't be put out easily.
There are various chemicals that burn with a blue flame; Ethanol, Methanol, Isoproyl alcohol. Copper, arsenic and lead also burn with a blue flame. Copper chloride is safe.
Within a single glass of wine, 4oz, there are 25g of ethyl alcohol and 3g of glycerine.
When that burns, that gives off a blue flame. It's quite possible for someone to drink one or two bottles of wine. That could be 12 glasses in total or 300g. That would be enough to make someone's lungs flammable.
originally posted by: Soloprotocol
A friend of mine Burst into flames, Severe burns to his abdomen chest and neck area, I'm talking Freddie Krugger degree burns and after scaring here, He told us the filter in his roll up ignited and fell onto his t-shirt which also mysteriously went whooomph...
I dont beleive a word of it, Never pushed him on the official story but we tried to light a filter, in fact we tried to light dozens of them and not one would catch fire. Something else happened yet for some reason he's not going to tell us what it was.
originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: Soloprotocol
A friend of mine Burst into flames, Severe burns to his abdomen chest and neck area, I'm talking Freddie Krugger degree burns and after scaring here, He told us the filter in his roll up ignited and fell onto his t-shirt which also mysteriously went whooomph...
I dont beleive a word of it, Never pushed him on the official story but we tried to light a filter, in fact we tried to light dozens of them and not one would catch fire. Something else happened yet for some reason he's not going to tell us what it was.
Possibly a Richard Pryor incident? (Freebasing c0caine)
I knew an old guy (in his late 70's) that was filling his Zippo lighter, and didn't realize that he overflowed a lot of the fluid onto his flannel shirt and pants. He lit a cigarette with the lighter and burst into flames. He died later from the extensive burns.
originally posted by: Soloprotocol
A friend of mine Burst into flames, Severe burns to his abdomen chest and neck area, I'm talking Freddie Krugger degree burns and after scaring here, He told us the filter in his roll up ignited and fell onto his t-shirt which also mysteriously went whooomph...
I dont beleive a word of it, Never pushed him on the official story but we tried to light a filter, in fact we tried to light dozens of them and not one would catch fire. Something else happened yet for some reason he's not going to tell us what it was.
originally posted by: Soloprotocol
A friend of mine Burst into flames, Severe burns to his abdomen chest and neck area, I'm talking Freddie Krugger degree burns and after scaring here, He told us the filter in his roll up ignited and fell onto his t-shirt which also mysteriously went whooomph...
I dont beleive a word of it, Never pushed him on the official story but we tried to light a filter, in fact we tried to light dozens of them and not one would catch fire. Something else happened yet for some reason he's not going to tell us what it was.
originally posted by: muzzleflash
I disagree, it wasn't spontaneous.
It was premeditated, delayed several times, and then finally he decided to combust into flames.
All you have to do is get really mad and hold your breath.
Acetone. It is naturally produced in the body and is highly flammable. Interestingly, wikipedia also cites 'alcoholism' and diabetes as producing more than normal.