Our technological evolution

If we accept that we are not alone in the universe, given the time scale of things we must accept that some civilisations must be millions of years ahead of us and some civilisations must be millions of years behind us in terms of scientific evolution.

So, given the fact that most of what we have was achieved in 100-200 years and that our evolution has been exponential I think in another 200-300 years we will have achieved out peak in technological evolution, well, maybe not but at some time we will surely have reached a peak in evolution and knowledge.

What then?

If we humans have achieved that state in just 500-1000 years what to think of a million year old civilisation? Are they in decline? What is their progression rate?

I suppose they will keep the products of their science and leave research and development behind, they will have all the tech toys they need but they won´t know why they build them as they build them, they will work like a beginner cook works from a cookbook.

I´m saying that they will know how to make the ufo´s we see in our skies and all but they don´t know why they build them that way.

What do you think?

I'm not sure if technological development as we know it can have a peak or if an alien technology would be so different as if to be magic in our eyes. I believe any technology must also have developed the capability to wipe itself out, either through accident or foolishness.

If that point can be surpassed safely, then then the possibilities are limitless.

a reply to: CrapAsUsual

I think ancient man had technology that was lost.

We have began to rediscover it.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: CrapAsUsual

I think ancient man had technology that was lost.

We have began to rediscover it.

A good point, although there will be many who will come along and tell you how wrong you are. I think maybe mankind has had, and lost, technology but the tech we are creating today is of a different nature and could reach a more advanced state than previous...if we don't blow ourselves up!

One word....Time Machines.....2 words actually

No rules, No limits.....No excuses!!!

IMO.

I think their are civilization constants.

Religion,politics,climate change, and everything else that goes along with it.

On a cosmic scale, and clock.

We really have no clue just exactly where humans are in the big picture.

Stand to reason there are 'aliens' ahead and behind us.

Since like the weather. it's a constant state of motion.

originally posted by: CrapAsUsual

If we humans have achieved that state in just 500-1000 years what to think of a million year old civilisation? Are they in decline? What is their progression rate?

Can a civilization last 1 million years? I'm thinking probably not. There would be too many things that could cause the civilization to fall/fail, sending our civilization back to non-technological times.

An example of one of those things would be biological evolution. 1 million years ago, humans were not.....well, human. 1 million years from now we will almost certainly no longer be humans. Could the stresses caused by whatever we will biologically evolve into cause a collapse of our civilization?

What some call technological Evolution, I call the rape of the natural world.
The race is on between how fast we can develop before we drown in the effluent runoff of our technological civilization.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: CrapAsUsual

I think ancient man had technology that was lost.

We have began to rediscover it.

So what do you think ancient man could do that we can't and were is the actual evidence.

a reply to: CrapAsUsual

Well I’m sitting in a forest at least a mile away from any man made buildings so I would say that the pass of or technical growth is amazing. This is even mor apparent when I remember that I was in my 20s when the internet became a house hold utility.

To your other idea that an alien world would be millions of years more advanced, I say would you think that?
Look at it this way human beings would be 100,000 or more years advanced if there is never been I sages natural disasters and the veriest world wars. Not to mention ethnic cleansing and religious killings and you can see that our advancement has only really happened this fast in this point in time because we’ve been relatively peaceful with each other . I see no reason to believe that it would be any different on any other world. The alien in habitants would have themselves no matter when they gain sentiments gone through many natural disasters. There could even be a solicitation out the. I see no reason to believe that it would be any different on any other world. The alien in habitants would have themselves no matter when they gain sentiments gone through many natural disasters. There could even be a civilization out there that 10 years ago was more advanced than us but has since been bombarded with meteor strikes that they could not avoid and are now back to living in caves. That is not to say that there couldn’t be way more advanced civilizations out there but I feel like my first premise of the natural reset of worlds is more likely

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: CrapAsUsual

I think ancient man had technology that was lost.

We have began to rediscover it.

We are always losing knowledge and having to regain it - people retire, projects get canceled and then archived. Sometime server disks are wiped and source code deleted. Then they have to reinvent that technology. Japanese Samurai sword makers invented stainless steel - then that knowledge was lost.

An advanced civilization would have mastered genetics - know what every protein and enzyme does, every virus, bacterium and macrophage on their planet. They would have mastered quantum physics, know every possible interaction and outcome. If that can be done for a single atom, then it could be done for a spacecraft.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: CrapAsUsual

I think ancient man had technology that was lost.

We have began to rediscover it.

I don't know what exactly you mean by "technology", but I fully believe that ancient engineers and builders used extremely clever engineering and architectural/construction techniques that were since lost to time.

I mean, why not? They were every bit as smart as we are. They had virtually the brains we have and the same ability to solve problems that we have. If we consider ourselves clever, then that means they were equally clever.

Therefore, it would not surprise me if (say, for example) since ancient Egyptians spent 2000 years building with stone that they -- through the experienced gained by trial-and-error stone construction over a span of a couple thousand years -- would develop novel techniques for moving and working those stones that have since been lost to time, and that we have not yet thought of, mainly because we have not been building with stone for the past 2000 years and lack the trial-and-error experience.

Another example is medieval cathedrals. People studying medieval cathedrals today are still learning from the techniques the cathedral buildiers used 600 years ago. Because they had more day-to-day experince in cathedral building than we do today, they had techniques for doing things that we do not have today due to those techniques being lost to time.

a reply to: CrapAsUsual

I think in another 200-300 years we will have achieved out peak in technological evolution

I wouldn't worry about that. Infinity has made everything possible. To know more, we just have to look past what we know while having open minds to every possibility.. Humans aren't used to that just yet. JMO.

a reply to: CrapAsUsual

I honestly think when we reach our technological singularity humans will be more like cyborgs than human.
When you think about it everything we do is to maintain and feed our brain. Once we hit the singularity artificial intelligence will simply just outsmart us and find a better alternative to biological organs, or at least we can simply just replace old ones with new ones.