Iraq: Draft law legalizing marriage of 9-year-olds

Kind of sickening if you ask me. Nine years old is just a kid. It is their country, I guess we cannot stop them. But that does not mean we should continue helping them when they form laws that we do not agree with. I think that country has gotten overtaken by some pretty weird people. That is pedophile activity, even if there is no sex, the kid is primed at nine for a person that is more like a slave master than like a husband.

a reply to: MaxMech

Whatever happened in Utah does not make it OK to marry nine year old children.

Okay, forget religion, what about Texas?

With parental consent the legal age is 14.

Tell everyone how young is young, again?

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I'm talking either, they're both genital mutilation. If it is tantamount to grooming then how do the uncircumcised make it and reproduce? You'd think the way people were born would be the preferred standard. Isn't that the argument when it comes to gender identity?

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Lets see some statistics that show its a problem with Mainstream Global Christianity. Good luck.

Although apparently discussion along the lines is a big problem with Mainstream 'Global' Hindu if some reports I've seen about India are to be noted. But then again there arent as many Hindu's, they aren't literally trying to imperialistically conquer the whole world half of them, nor do they have a "Sharia Law" model they try to weasel their way into everywhere they land in huge droves together when they relocate (not that I've heard about anyways).

Do you HONESTLY believe this isn't a problem among Christians too? More than 200,000 children married in US over the last 15 years
Child Marriage
The Ideology of Underage Marriages in Conservative Christianity

Man your biases are as bad as ever. You just want to demean Muslims don't you? My god, you are despicable. Child marriage is a problem across ALL religions when fundamentalists are involved. Signaling out one religion over the others just shows that you want to demean the religion and not actually tackle the problem.

Here is the most important link I'm going to give:
Child Marriage Around the world

No one religious affiliation is associated with child marriage. Rather, a variety of religions are associated with child marriage in countries throughout the world.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I'm actually more concerned with goes on in the US than in Iraq, because I live here. Imagine that?

Not hard to imagine. But you are reading and replying on posts in the Middle East forum. A place where Middle East issues are discussed. If you are not interested in Iraq, don't read posts about Iraq.

a reply to: MaxMech

So what I'm hearing from you is that juxtaposing another country that also allows child marriage, one that you are familiar with, with Iraq's actions is unacceptable. Only Iraq should be called out for their behaviors.

If you want me to feel out raged about Iraq's legal actions, then show some outrage about our own domestic policies for the same first. This isn't a pick and choose issue. Child marriage is bad. We shouldn't need to single out one country over the other for the practice when so many are guilty including our own.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Lets see some statistics that show its a problem with Mainstream Global Christianity. Good luck.

Although apparently discussion along the lines is a big problem with Mainstream 'Global' Hindu if some reports I've seen about India are to be noted. But then again there arent as many Hindu's, they aren't literally trying to imperialistically conquer the whole world half of them, nor do they have a "Sharia Law" model they try to weasel their way into everywhere they land in huge droves together when they relocate (not that I've heard about anyways).

Do you HONESTLY believe this isn't a problem among Christians too? More than 200,000 children married in US over the last 15 years
Child Marriage
The Ideology of Underage Marriages in Conservative Christianity

Man your biases are as bad as ever. You just want to demean Muslims don't you? My god, you are despicable. Child marriage is a problem across ALL religions when fundamentalists are involved. Signaling out one religion over the others just shows that you want to demean the religion and not actually tackle the problem.

Here is the most important link I'm going to give:
Child Marriage Around the world

No one religious affiliation is associated with child marriage. Rather, a variety of religions are associated with child marriage in countries throughout the world.

Vast majority are 16 and older... the article is somewhat sensationalist.

Eight-seven per cent of the minors who married across the country between 2000 and 2015 were girls, with the majority either 16 or 17.

The article states that OVER 15 YEARS, 1000 marriage licenses were given to those under 14. So you are talking 66 cases per year. This is hardly a practice that is accepted by mainstream America. I'd also venture that the bulk of the 16-18 year olds involved a pregnancy as well.

States have been revising their marriage laws to make them more relevant to current times.

a reply to: Edumakated

Great. Things are improving, but that doesn't mean we are where we should be to stand on the moral high ground on this issue yet.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Why do you care so much about Iraq when the problem exists in your backyard too? Shouldn't you want to clean up your own yard before telling someone else their's is messy. ESPECIALLY when you both have the same mess.

Why do you assume I have this problem in my back yard? Why do you assume I'm American?
Unlike you, I actually care about the Middle East, as I live here. Imagine that. This is the reason I spend my time on Middle East forums, posting about Middle East issues.
By the way, as of now, the legal age of marriage in my country is 18 (with a provision for judicially permitted marriage of 16- and 17-year-olds only in exceptional cases). In my opinion it's pretty reasonable.

Is there anything sacred to muslims? 9 years old? really? why would any muslim parent willingly allow their daughter to marry at 9 years old? just because the religious prophet you worship married and had sex with a 9 year old girl does not make it ok. Only a sick person would marry a 9 year old. Only a sick person would allow their daughter to marry at 9 years old. I do not care what religion you follow or culture you come from if you would marry a 9 year old girl or allow your 9 year old daughter to marry you are a sick and disgusting person.

a reply to: Edumakated

Chris Christie shot down a law that would ban the marriage of minors in any case on the basis that it would interfere with religious customs. Christie is Christian, he's not going to shoot down a law that protects Muslim customs so he was obviously talking about Christian customs if even it was only partially.

What about all the Christian priests who have been caught molesting underage boys? I guess that's not worth demeaning an entire demographic over?

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: MaxMech

It's not Muslims who are at fault. It is religion in general. Particularly fundamentalists. There are Christians marrying 12 year olds in our own back yard. Where is the outrage for that?
Why does the United States still let 12-year-old girls get married?
America’s Child-Marriage Problem

Oh bull#. It's nothing but legalizing a child sex slave. Now you are the one creating a diversion. This sucks and you know it.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Edumakated

Great. Things are improving, but that doesn't mean we are where we should be to stand on the moral high ground on this issue yet.

Yes. We are.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Edumakated

Great. Things are improving, but that doesn't mean we are where we should be to stand on the moral high ground on this issue yet.

Yes, it does. We are against murder, however, murder still occurs. Just because we have murders occur here too doesn't mean we can't say the murder rate is too high somewhere else.

The issue is the they are attempting to codify into law marrying 9 year olds in 2017. This is disgusting by modern standards. Just because we have a small number of incidents here does not change that fact. Again, marrying children is not a mainstream practice in the US even though it does occur. That is the difference.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Edumakated

Chris Christie shot down a law that would ban the marriage of minors in any case on the basis that it would interfere with religious customs. Christie is Christian, he's not going to shoot down a law that protects Muslim customs so he was obviously talking about Christian customs if even it was only partially.

What about all the Christian priests who have been caught molesting underage boys? I guess that's not worth demeaning an entire demographic over?

What about the Christian priests? Who defends priests molesting little boys? Where have priests been lobbying to make that legal?

a reply to: intrptr

I don't agree with it. But how does it justifies what I have mention in my post?
Is it now forbidden to mention any wrong doing just because it exists in some form in other places as well?

Pasting this again, just for you -

Tu quoque (pronounced like 'too quoh quey'; Latin for 'you also') is a form of ad hominem fallacy that occurs when it is assumed that an argument is wrong if the source making the claim has itself spoken or acted in a way inconsistent with it. The fallacy focuses on the perceived hypocrisy of the opponent rather than the merits of their argument.

Sickening .....No matter what religion it is that condones this.

How are there so many ATS members defending marriage to a 9 year old child? Culture is different foods, dress and political systems not condoned child rape.

a reply to: Edumakated

What makes you think all Muslims condone child marriage? What percentage of Muslims do you think would actually marry a 9 year old? And the priests may not be trying to legalize molesting boys but Christie at least seemed to be against outlawing child marriage.

Child marriage is not completely illegal in any state, what does that say about America? The same as it does about Iraq? I doubt it.

originally posted by: Metallicus
How are there so many ATS members defending marriage to a 9 year old child? Culture is different foods, dress and political systems not condoned child rape.

Because pedo is apparently the new initial in the LBGTQXYZ movement...

They are not pedo by choice they were born that way. It's a sickness that needs to be explored and accepted as such, not demonized!!

(End Sarcasm)


LBGTQPXYZ!!