Macron to introduce fines for 'gender-based insults' in France

a reply to: Lagomorphe
thank you.

originally posted by: Lagomorphe

originally posted by: dug88

originally posted by: Lagomorphe

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: joemoe

Words can be worse than physical abuse, and sometimes the victims cannot walk away.

Also, harassment is not free speech.

Couldn't agree more.

Over here in France there is a major issue (especially in the larger cities... but also now spreading to smaller communities) with groups of young guys (especially of North African origins (meaning cultural differences too)) who hang around and make unsavoury comments to female passers by...

I am not talking about the usual old fashioned wolf whistle or show us yer "t*ts* which is bad enough as it is, but more along the lines of "Hey Bitch, fancy a f**K with me and my bro's down in the HLM cellar (social housing garage)? or even worse... when they are ignored by said female passer-by they go into full retard mode and start menacing said passer-by with rape etc... there have even been actual assaults by said scum on women that have completely ignored such comments.

I don't like Macron but totally agree that something has to be done and that he has proposed a solution.

This has to stop and I for one am glad that this law will be put into place in order to show this scum that they should adapt

Warmest

Lags

I showed my wife this story this morning. She laughed at it. She's had dudes come up and say some pretty stupid # and had guys go 'full retard' whebn she ignores them. The most recent was an old Russian dude who told her he was going to # her in the ass. Naturally she told him to # off. He ignored her and turned to the guy next to him and asked him if he would # her ass. Instead of freaking out she went on her way, came home and we had a good laugh at how idiotic people can be.

Do you mind me asking which country you come from and what ethnic majority (culture) the migrants are that make these comments to your wife please?I read Russian (one occasion) but is this the majority?

I am happy for you that you and your wife can laugh about this (seriously)...

Sadly this is not the case in other countries with other ethnic migrant populations.

Pay your plane ticket and come to France, you can stay at my place for free (food and lodgings) and I will let you and your wife out on a two day laughing spree in Marseille and Paris...

I don't think you will laugh for long sadly.

Warmest regards

Lags

Canada. Usually Punjabi, arabs or eastern European. But a lot of local white guys do the same thing. My wife is from a small town in a #ty part of England. They used to have roving rape gangs, of white British people there.

originally posted by: oddnutz
a reply to: Lagomorphe
thank you.

You are welcome Oddnutz

Warmest respects

Lags

originally posted by: dug88

originally posted by: Lagomorphe

originally posted by: dug88

originally posted by: Lagomorphe

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: joemoe

Words can be worse than physical abuse, and sometimes the victims cannot walk away.

Also, harassment is not free speech.

Couldn't agree more.

Over here in France there is a major issue (especially in the larger cities... but also now spreading to smaller communities) with groups of young guys (especially of North African origins (meaning cultural differences too)) who hang around and make unsavoury comments to female passers by...

I am not talking about the usual old fashioned wolf whistle or show us yer "t*ts* which is bad enough as it is, but more along the lines of "Hey Bitch, fancy a f**K with me and my bro's down in the HLM cellar (social housing garage)? or even worse... when they are ignored by said female passer-by they go into full retard mode and start menacing said passer-by with rape etc... there have even been actual assaults by said scum on women that have completely ignored such comments.

I don't like Macron but totally agree that something has to be done and that he has proposed a solution.

This has to stop and I for one am glad that this law will be put into place in order to show this scum that they should adapt

Warmest

Lags

I showed my wife this story this morning. She laughed at it. She's had dudes come up and say some pretty stupid # and had guys go 'full retard' whebn she ignores them. The most recent was an old Russian dude who told her he was going to # her in the ass. Naturally she told him to # off. He ignored her and turned to the guy next to him and asked him if he would # her ass. Instead of freaking out she went on her way, came home and we had a good laugh at how idiotic people can be.

Do you mind me asking which country you come from and what ethnic majority (culture) the migrants are that make these comments to your wife please?I read Russian (one occasion) but is this the majority?

I am happy for you that you and your wife can laugh about this (seriously)...

Sadly this is not the case in other countries with other ethnic migrant populations.

Pay your plane ticket and come to France, you can stay at my place for free (food and lodgings) and I will let you and your wife out on a two day laughing spree in Marseille and Paris...

I don't think you will laugh for long sadly.

Warmest regards

Lags

Canada. Usually Punjabi, arabs or eastern European. But a lot of local white guys do the same thing. My wife is from a small town in a #ty part of England. They used to have roving rape gangs, of white British people there.

Thanks for your response.

May I ask you, in all honesty, with which ethnic culture the majority of problems are observed please?

Over here in France it is the North African (Certain Arab cultures) as we are much much nearer and of course the historical part jumps in too.

Warmest regards

Lags

Ps. I really have to go now as the gerbils, custard and duct tape cannot wait any longer, will be back in about 2 hours or tomorrow in about 16 hours.

the french people are beyond weak.. now cant even say bad words b/c it might offend someone?

i think them becoming a muslim caliphate in 20 years should be more of a problem...... more and more looks like they deserve the bed that lie in

No more fils de pute...?
That's going to be hard.
Very hard.
I bet there's going to be no police for miles when a guy calls you that from now on.
Let it be an indication for your 'safety'.

originally posted by: Daalder
No more fils de pute...?
That's going to be hard.
Very hard.
I bet there's going to be no police for miles when a guy calls you that from now on.
Let it be an indication for your 'safety'.

Why do you say that... can you elaborate please?

Thanks in advance.

Warmest regards

Lags

originally posted by: Jiggly
the french people are beyond weak.. now cant even say bad words b/c it might offend someone?

i think them becoming a muslim caliphate in 20 years should be more of a problem...... more and more looks like they deserve the bed that lie in

Did you take the time to read through my posts, look and read the links I provided and also go through all the videos I posted before you posted?

Methinks not.

Methinks that you are not from France either and have a one sided opinion after what you have read on Internet!?

I hope I am wrong but doubt it...

Welcome to the flock old chap...

Warmest

Lags

originally posted by: dug88
I would rather have someone scream in my face and call me all the worst things under the sun than attack me. In one of those situations my life is at risk...in the other not so much.

I didn't say that words are worst than all physical abuse, did I?

Sure, physical abuse can kill you directly, while words cannot, but words can lead some people to their death too.

a reply to: joemoe

I agree, nobody should have control over what we say, but there are already laws that punish people for what they say, or haven't you heard about slander? Those are also just words.

originally posted by: dug88

originally posted by: Lagomorphe

originally posted by: dug88

originally posted by: Lagomorphe

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: joemoe

Words can be worse than physical abuse, and sometimes the victims cannot walk away.

Also, harassment is not free speech.

Couldn't agree more.

Over here in France there is a major issue (especially in the larger cities... but also now spreading to smaller communities) with groups of young guys (especially of North African origins (meaning cultural differences too)) who hang around and make unsavoury comments to female passers by...

I am not talking about the usual old fashioned wolf whistle or show us yer "t*ts* which is bad enough as it is, but more along the lines of "Hey Bitch, fancy a f**K with me and my bro's down in the HLM cellar (social housing garage)? or even worse... when they are ignored by said female passer-by they go into full retard mode and start menacing said passer-by with rape etc... there have even been actual assaults by said scum on women that have completely ignored such comments.

I don't like Macron but totally agree that something has to be done and that he has proposed a solution.

This has to stop and I for one am glad that this law will be put into place in order to show this scum that they should adapt

Warmest

Lags

I showed my wife this story this morning. She laughed at it. She's had dudes come up and say some pretty stupid # and had guys go 'full retard' whebn she ignores them. The most recent was an old Russian dude who told her he was going to # her in the ass. Naturally she told him to # off. He ignored her and turned to the guy next to him and asked him if he would # her ass. Instead of freaking out she went on her way, came home and we had a good laugh at how idiotic people can be.

Do you mind me asking which country you come from and what ethnic majority (culture) the migrants are that make these comments to your wife please?I read Russian (one occasion) but is this the majority?

I am happy for you that you and your wife can laugh about this (seriously)...

Sadly this is not the case in other countries with other ethnic migrant populations.

Pay your plane ticket and come to France, you can stay at my place for free (food and lodgings) and I will let you and your wife out on a two day laughing spree in Marseille and Paris...

I don't think you will laugh for long sadly.

Warmest regards

Lags

Canada. Usually Punjabi, arabs or eastern European.

You live in Brampton too?

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: dug88

originally posted by: Lagomorphe

originally posted by: dug88

originally posted by: Lagomorphe

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: joemoe

Words can be worse than physical abuse, and sometimes the victims cannot walk away.

Also, harassment is not free speech.

Couldn't agree more.

Over here in France there is a major issue (especially in the larger cities... but also now spreading to smaller communities) with groups of young guys (especially of North African origins (meaning cultural differences too)) who hang around and make unsavoury comments to female passers by...

I am not talking about the usual old fashioned wolf whistle or show us yer "t*ts* which is bad enough as it is, but more along the lines of "Hey Bitch, fancy a f**K with me and my bro's down in the HLM cellar (social housing garage)? or even worse... when they are ignored by said female passer-by they go into full retard mode and start menacing said passer-by with rape etc... there have even been actual assaults by said scum on women that have completely ignored such comments.

I don't like Macron but totally agree that something has to be done and that he has proposed a solution.

This has to stop and I for one am glad that this law will be put into place in order to show this scum that they should adapt

Warmest

Lags

I showed my wife this story this morning. She laughed at it. She's had dudes come up and say some pretty stupid # and had guys go 'full retard' whebn she ignores them. The most recent was an old Russian dude who told her he was going to # her in the ass. Naturally she told him to # off. He ignored her and turned to the guy next to him and asked him if he would # her ass. Instead of freaking out she went on her way, came home and we had a good laugh at how idiotic people can be.

Do you mind me asking which country you come from and what ethnic majority (culture) the migrants are that make these comments to your wife please?I read Russian (one occasion) but is this the majority?

I am happy for you that you and your wife can laugh about this (seriously)...

Sadly this is not the case in other countries with other ethnic migrant populations.

Pay your plane ticket and come to France, you can stay at my place for free (food and lodgings) and I will let you and your wife out on a two day laughing spree in Marseille and Paris...

I don't think you will laugh for long sadly.

Warmest regards

Lags

Canada. Usually Punjabi, arabs or eastern European.

You live in Brampton too?

Lol no. On the west coast. Near Vancouver.

a reply to: Lagomorphe

I read your posts and I'm appalled at this situation. I am curious on a couple of things Lags. When a French man walks by and hears these losers utter insults or threatening a woman, don't they come to the woman's aid with a manly verbal assault or knuckle sandwich? Maybe it's me, but just recently, I've come to the aid of not only a woman, but an elderly man, who were being accosted by a homeless person in a parking lot. I didn't back down and threatened to call 911, until they walked away. I'm sure there are men who do this in France, but how many? Maybe these low lifes continue to harass French women because they think that they can get away with it. Secondly, doesn't the police in France increase patrols at an area frequented by these young guys of "North African origins?" Aren't there laws in France that restrict speech considered obscene, defamatory, or creating a foreseeable risk of harm? Maybe if they started throwing these hooligans in jail for disorderly conduct, these incidents would decrease.

a reply to: bgerbger

So, no free speech in France? Plus, why just women? Is insulting men still going to be legal?

Sheesh, why can't he worry about real issues, such as the Muslim problem?

originally posted by: Lagomorphe

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: joemoe

Words can be worse than physical abuse, and sometimes the victims cannot walk away.

Also, harassment is not free speech.

Couldn't agree more.

Over here in France there is a major issue (especially in the larger cities... but also now spreading to smaller communities) with groups of young guys (especially of North African origins (meaning cultural differences too)) who hang around and make unsavoury comments to female passers by...

I am not talking about the usual old fashioned wolf whistle or show us yer "t*ts* which is bad enough as it is, but more along the lines of "Hey Bitch, fancy a f**K with me and my bro's down in the HLM cellar (social housing garage)? or even worse... when they are ignored by said female passer-by they go into full retard mode and start menacing said passer-by with rape etc... there have even been actual assaults by said scum on women that have completely ignored such comments.

I don't like Macron but totally agree that something has to be done and that he has proposed a solution.

This has to stop and I for one am glad that this law will be put into place in order to show this scum that they should adapt

Warmest

Lags

So, instead of deporting all of the scumbags actually responsible, he's imposing fines for words?!?!? How about issuing Glocks to all the ladies, with permission to shoot such threats, instead?

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
So, instead of deporting all of the scumbags actually responsible, he's imposing fines for words?!?!?

Where can they deport their own citizens?

originally posted by: ArMaP

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
So, instead of deporting all of the scumbags actually responsible, he's imposing fines for words?!?!?

Where can they deport their own citizens?

Must be somewhere that is still technically France but is a desert where these freaks wont infect normal society with their rubbish.

a reply to: SprocketUK

France had some "interesting" places to where they used to send people, but I don't know if their laws still allow that.

originally posted by: shawmanfromny
a reply to: Lagomorphe

I read your posts and I'm appalled at this situation. I am curious on a couple of things Lags. When a French man walks by and hears these losers utter insults or threatening a woman, don't they come to the woman's aid with a manly verbal assault or knuckle sandwich? Maybe it's me, but just recently, I've come to the aid of not only a woman, but an elderly man, who were being accosted by a homeless person in a parking lot. I didn't back down and threatened to call 911, until they walked away. I'm sure there are men who do this in France, but how many? Maybe these low lifes continue to harass French women because they think that they can get away with it. Secondly, doesn't the police in France increase patrols at an area frequented by these young guys of "North African origins?" Aren't there laws in France that restrict speech considered obscene, defamatory, or creating a foreseeable risk of harm? Maybe if they started throwing these hooligans in jail for disorderly conduct, these incidents would decrease.

Hi Shawn.

Generally people do step in to help.

However, the main problem is that these scumbags only usually hang around in groups and are not scared to bottle or knife anyone that gets in the way.

There has been talk about increasing police manpower in sensitive areas but yet to be seen with the current government.

As for throwing them in jail, sadly the French justice system is one big joke and these scum rarely get jail sentences.

Warmest regards

Lags

They should fine only those that do it purposly when they see the other person is offended.

I dislike free speach because some people do not have any holds and are willing to lie to everyone, curse at someone and do anything to ruin their life.

Internet trolls are living proof of what too much free speech does.

Now imagine if every living person outside was like that.

"Oh your momma died? Well i have free speech and she was a f*****g w***e , and you are probbably too. You should die too or something" - free speach.