Vegas Shooting Survivor Killed in Hit and Run (November 17)

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: Autorico
a reply to: queenofswords

I think the crux of it is, why was I spared when others were not. I could totally see myself feeling guilty that I survived while others didn't. /shrug

Guilty? That's the part I don't get at all unless you did something to cause another's death, or had some kind of knowledge or inkling beforehand.

Its the "why me" instead of him or her kind of guilt associated with post traumatic stress.

reread the post above yours....the driver took off and LEFT THE CAR THERE....they are still looking for him

originally posted by: Autorico
Odd, it doesn't say who witnessed the hit and run. How do they know what kind of car it was?

a reply to: research100

I think you mean below (Shamrocks post) and it has been addressed.

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: Autorico
a reply to: queenofswords

You have never heard of Survivors Remorse?

Of course, I have. I said I just don't get that kind of guilt complex.

Also, didn't we have a thread about FBI "agents" recommending particular attorneys and/or psychiatric assistance to survivors.

Generally after some kind of event like that, authorities will recommend help groups and mental health help to people. That's not exactly strange.

As to survivor's guilt, what's to get? It's a symptom of PTSD, which can manifest itself in all sorts of different ways. There's nothing for you to "get" about it.

originally posted by: intrptr

The inference here being that everyone was supposed to die, didn't, lol.

As far as I can see...this is your inference.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: intrptr

The inference here being that everyone was supposed to die, didn't, lol.

As far as I can see...this is your inference.

This thread is your inference , not mine.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Why was he hitchhiking?

Roy McClellan of Las Vegas was killed Nov. 17 while hitchhiking on State Route 160 in Pahrump, about 50 miles (80 kilometers) west of Las Vegas.

www.montereyherald.com...

Pahrump, NV? Wonder why he was there. It's a little town of about 36,000 people.

Pahrump is home to Art Bell, Ted Binion, and Ronald Wayne.

Pahrump is the hometown of Art Bell, an author and radio personality. He is known for founding Coast to Coast AM, an overnight radio talk show mainly about paranormal subjects, conspiracies and other oddities, a program that he broadcast from his home studio. Bell formerly owned KNYE, the local radio station located in Pahrump

A wealthy Las Vegas casino owner, Ted Binion, buried a large treasure of silver in a secret underground vault in Pahrump. In 1998 Binion died under suspicious circumstances and one of the parties accused of murdering Binion was apprehended while digging up the vault in Pahrump. A book about the Binion murder trial (and Las Vegas poker) is Positively Fifth Street by James McManus

Pahrump is the home of the third co-founder of Apple Computer, Ronald Wayne. Wayne now lives a quiet lifestyle there,[10][11] selling stamps and rare coins.

en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: IAMTAT
OTHERS:

Gave interview/Died in sleep.

Vegas shooting survivor, California charity co-founder dies suddenly

I have a feeling she had a grand mal seizure and choked on her own tongue as she was sleeping and suffocated to death.

Suchomel, who was taking medication for a pituitary tumor, shared her fear of trying to fall sleep at night as the “sounds of gunfire” become louder in her head and the images of “broken and bloody bodies” flashed through her mind.

I mean, drugs can amplify emotions or feelings, so could the medications been some sort of anti-psychotic/seizure cocktail blend?

I am not convinced her death was a conspiracy.

a reply to: IAMTAT

You'll have to bring proof of any others before making this kind of claim. I think isn't sufficient.

Final Destination???

151,600 people die each day around the world.
6,316 people die each hour

Conspiracy minds are going to see conspiracies in anything when they make up their mind one exists.

originally posted by: opethPA
151,600 people die each day around the world.
6,316 people die each hour

Most of them are elderly, sick, or die from not getting their basic needs fulfilled.

Most of the concert goers. however, were fairly young, healthy, and *not* struggling with meeting basic needs.

Now usually a 52 year old hitchhiking is spry enough to dodge any wild driver....unless itwas a nasty evil driver on a mission and had to report back.....so, was it a quick swerve catching him with just the right side quartered....

OH geeze.. 50k + people at the concert.. these posts will probably be around for 10 years, similar to the ludicrous "Clinton body count" posts. Because obviously, no one dies unless there is a sinister motive. Similar to how there are no actual tragedies or crazy people, literally every single event is a false flag of some sort.

Yay conspiracy...

originally posted by: IAMTAT
THIS death (Nov. 17th.) seems to be the most recent of an inordinate amount of very odd deaths involving Vegas shooting survivors.

Unless I'm mistaken, there have been others over the past weeks since the tragic shooting event.

This seems remarkably odd to me...and appears to defy mere coincidence.

Could it be that, for some unknown reason, these people are being specifically and systematically targeted for elimination?

LAS VEGAS, NV (WCMH) — Just weeks after surviving the worst mass shooting in American history, a Las Vegas man was killed in a hit and run accident.

Roy McClellan, 52, was hitchhiking on Nov. 17 when a Chevrolet Camaro plowed into him on Route 160. The driver of the car fled the scene, leaving McClellan for dead. McClellan and his wife Denise were among the survivors of the Route 91 Harvest Festival shooting, where Stephen Paddock unleashed hundreds of rounds on the crowd, killing 58 people and wounding hundreds more.

Now, she’s looking for answers. “I’m angry. I feel that he [was] under the influence of something or drunk and didn’t want to get caught,” Denise told KSNV. “So he bailed and left my husband laying there in the street. He doesn’t deserve that.”

Denise said McClellan was struggling to deal with surviving the shooting and was seeking help. “It was really messing with his head, and he was going to therapy,” she said.

Police are searching for the driver responsible in the hit and run, and Denise is trying to pick up the pieces left behind.

nbc4i.com...

The number of coincidences regarding this event does not seem to be coincidental to me.

Could someone with a knowledge of probability theory and statistics come on board with an accurate calculation of the likelihood of, now 8 event survivors, meeting such an untimely end so soon after the event.

originally posted by: the owlbear
How many THOUSANDS of people are survivors of the Las Vegas barrel shoot?

Quite a few.
And statistically, people die...even if they were one of THOUSANDS.

There are about ten peeps dead now. Most of them have one thing in common. They all saw multiple shooters and they all posted about it online.

A very sad, turn of fate? One would think, they'd have "learned", the first-time? Obviously, it was their time to go... No conspiracy here. Move along.

What is really crazy about this sort of news is that you are reading it simply because the most amazing thing about the dead man is that he attended the Vegas Shooting. It is not "the dude that shredded on guitar" or "he discovered stuff" but only "Vegas Survivor!" You now know him as the Vegas Survivor who was run over by a bitchin' Camaro.

They didn't tell you who the driver really was.

originally posted by: queenofswords

Denise said McClellan was struggling to deal with surviving the shooting and was seeking help.

“It was really messing with his head, and he was going to therapy,” she said.

So...Mr. McClellan was talking to a "therapist". I don't get the whole guilt complex about surviving though. But, I still wonder what he was talking about during his therapy sessions.

That thought came to my mind too when I read he had been seeing a therapist. Wondered if he had been saying things contrary to the OS and that was enough to put him on the hit list.

a reply to: opethPA

So, just using those numbers for a moment, assuming they are accurate...

Population of Earth = ~7.4B
Deaths / day = 151,600
Deaths / population / day = 48,812 In other words, 1 in 48,812 persons die every day.

So, let's say the population of witnesses (concert attendees and other witnesses) is 50,000. This would suggest that 1.02 persons of this sample would die every day.

A total of 57 days have elapsed since the Las Vegas shooting. Using the rough math (above) would seem to indicate that 58.14 persons from the data set would be the statistical average. HOWEVER, ...

If the 151k number represents Earth we would have to skew the result to reflect death rates in Las Vegas compared to death rates in say 3rd world and war-torn countries. The exact numbers for Las Vegas would take some time to derive, but numbers for the US population are readily available. Soooooo...

Approximately 6,775 persons die in the US every day.
Population of the US = 324,400,000
Therefore, 1 in 47,882 die each day. (Note: surprisingly close to World average...and actually higher!)
Going back to the 50,000 data set, this would mean roughly 1.04 persons of the data set will die each day.
Ergo, 1.04 x 57 = 59.28 persons of the data set statistically would have died since the shooting occurred on Oct 1, 2017.

Now to be fair, to get even more accurate you'd need to skew the numbers towards the demographics (age groups, etc) of those witnesses, minimally the concert attendees which likely have a much lower rate / 1000 people, but those numbers are not readily available.

I don't have any particular posture on this one way or the other, but after having seen this theme several times I thought I'd take a run at the numbers to see what they are... just for fun.

If these people are being knocked off because they are witnesses, that has me confused. They already shared their story and their beliefs in the inconsistancies. Their "cat" is already out of the bag once they told they media. Why kill them after the fact? Besides, all these witness stories haven't done much. The masses are still no closer to solving this.

I am not saying they weren't or were murdered, but why do so now? I would think the security guard would be one of the first to be silenced.