US Girls Self-Harming, Trying Suicide at Increasing Rate

a reply to: Dudemo5
You are wrong. I was in a bad accident. The helicopter crew that flew me to the hospital were certain I would die. The doctors were certain I would die. My kidneys and liver went offline. I turned yellow, and I was so weak I couldn't focus my eyes when I came to the next day. The Hospital called my Mom and Dad and said you need to come here now, right away. Your child has been in an accident and will die tonight.

The Living God, who was the same God of Abraham, Issac, Moses, King David, came in spirit form and took me out of my body for an hour for a amazing trip, high above the Earth. I felt so much joy. The most in my life. Then he sent me back to the hospital bed bellow down so fast from what I believe was 50,000'. I hit the bed like a bullet, but it didn't even move. I never lost consciousness in between.

The nurses were really excited to my story. That night my liver and kidneys started back up right away. The doctors were confused. I was a lost cause. I was supposed to die. They sent me to Stanford specialist, who said I had been hemoraging internally and somehow it seal up .

Then 2 weeks later when I was home, God came and visited me briefly. He came through the front door with it shut and locked. He allowed me to see me through his view, and I could also see my view at the same time. He spoke to me just one sentence, but it is kind of personal what he said, and Mom told me not to discuss with others our private conversation. Both my parents knew what I told them was the truth. My face looked different. It was like lit up some way, and I was filled up with happiness, joy, and peace.

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: CulturalResilience
It's further confirmation that full societal reset is the only hope.

Will you describe what that means to you?

In the shortest possible terms, The Dark Ages 2.0.

a reply to: silo13

I know that, and you know that. Most people have sealed themselves off from that truth.

You cannot force them to see what they are determined to miss or are blind to.

So, the truth I think they need to acknowledge is that we are meant to be spiritual beings, and I think you can agree with that much. People who do not have a spiritual sense of self are empty and lost and are the ones desperate to fill that void with something.

Once a spiritual journey is begun, then there is always hope it ends up in the right place, but it has to start first and not all of us started out in the same place.

so take all the suicidal girls and chuck them in bible school, problem solved?

a reply to: ClovenSky

They don't support greed.

They teach in terms of prosperity, but there are two levels. The surface level parallels the spiritual one.

Perhaps the companion children's song "This Little Light of Mine" would be of service to understanding the second layer?

a reply to: CulturalResilience

We have relearn the things too many think we are too "enlightened" and "evolved" to have to know.

toss my .2 in hear from my experience

1 some people want to die can't change that

2 single parent family's mean raised bye mother
take a little girl remove the father add a lot of questions mom can't answer about things like how boys think ... or how to deal with bullies and what not and now u got one lost and confused little girl

But that's just my experience with the problem every time iv seen suicide and self harm in young girls that's the one thing in common

originally posted by: visitedbythem
a reply to: Dudemo5
You are wrong. I was in a bad accident. The helicopter crew that flew me to the hospital were certain I would die. The doctors were certain I would die. My kidneys and liver went offline. I turned yellow, and I was so weak I couldn't focus my eyes when I came to the next day. The Hospital called my Mom and Dad and said you need to come here now, right away. Your child has been in an accident and will die tonight.

The Living God, who was the same God of Abraham, Issac, Moses, King David, came in spirit form and took me out of my body for an hour for a amazing trip, high above the Earth. I felt so much joy. The most in my life. Then he sent me back to the hospital bed bellow down so fast from what I believe was 50,000'. I hit the bed like a bullet, but it didn't even move. I never lost consciousness in between.

The nurses were really excited to my story. That night my liver and kidneys started back up right away. The doctors were confused. I was a lost cause. I was supposed to die. They sent me to Stanford specialist, who said I had been hemoraging internally and somehow it seal up .

Then 2 weeks later when I was home, God came and visited me briefly. He came through the front door with it shut and locked. He allowed me to see me through his view, and I could also see my view at the same time. He spoke to me just one sentence, but it is kind of personal what he said, and Mom told me not to discuss with others our private conversation. Both my parents knew what I told them was the truth. My face looked different. It was like lit up some way, and I was filled up with happiness, joy, and peace.

Yeah, and my mother claims she survived cancer because of God. She believes this. I'm very happy she survived, but there is no empirical evidence a god was involved.

Not one shred of empirical evidence exists to prove His existence.

Life is full of random chance. Sometimes incredibly unusual things happen -- when these things are BAD things (like a tornado mowing down your house) believers thank GOD they survived -- and when these are good things (like miraculously surviving an accident or disease), believers thank God for healing them. This is because humans have a natural need to believe in something larger.. we are wired to find patterns where they don't exist and most people are terrified of not knowing.

The truth is that sh*t happens. Most of the time it's SSDD. Every now and then it's some fantastically unusual sh*t. But this cannot be accurately attributed to any God, at least not in a way which can be proven empirically. So all we really have is faith, in something which cannot be proven.

a reply to: Dudemo5

What you don't get is this:

People like the poster you are talking to and others of us with faith who have had our own personal experiences understand very well what you are saying.

Sure we can't prove the experiences we have beyond our own testimony, and people like yourself can and will call us liars and scoff. We know that.

We also know it's called faith for most for a reason. There is no hard proof and never will be until it's way too late.

But when you talk down to someone with an experience as though we're too thick to comprehend that we can't prove our experience to you, it's insulting. We aren't dumb and we know that.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Dudemo5

What you don't get is this:

People like the poster you are talking to and others of us with faith who have had our own personal experiences understand very well what you are saying.

Sure we can't prove the experiences we have beyond our own testimony, and people like yourself can and will call us liars and scoff. We know that.

We also know it's called faith for most for a reason. There is no hard proof and never will be until it's way too late.

But when you talk down to someone with an experience as though we're too thick to comprehend that we can't prove our experience to you, it's insulting. We aren't dumb and we know that.

I don't care what you believe. But if you guys are free to talk about how "taking God out of schools" is the cause for all that ails us, I'm free to say I think God is an imaginary crock and has no place in public schools.

The problem so many believers have is that they think they "know" based on "a personal experience," so much so that it effects how they think the world ought to operate, to the extent that they think a God that exists entirely in their own minds is the answer for something tangible in the physical world.

I saw this before personaly. One guy i knew said his old girlfriend caused him to cut. Ive mainly heard its love driving them mad. Not this guesswork above..

originally posted by: anotherside
I saw this before personaly. One guy i knew said his old girlfriend caused him to cut. Ive mainly heard its love driving them mad. Not this guesswork above..

This is part of the narcissists playbook, everything that happens to them is everyone else's fault.

its the parents fault. Probably hooked on some dumb ass prescriptions themselves.

Some meaningless answers provided to their daughters deep questions coupled with a deep indoctrination of how they they think the world works on top of bull# outdated belief systems and a media that tells you to be a stupid whore all the time... welcome to America.

originally posted by: fiverx313
so take all the suicidal girls and chuck them in bible school, problem solved?

What is the rate in bible school?

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: toysforadults

It's not isolated to the US, morals and values have gone out the window in the west, we worship material gods.

fixed it for ya

The numbers are also further proof that teens are an increasingly vulnerable group when it comes to mental health. Research shows that teen depression rates are on the rise, yet stigma or fear of asking for help often prevents people from getting medical support. Untreated mental health conditions are among the leading causes of suicide. Experts say there are multiple reasons more young people are struggling with their mental health. Heavy social media use, bullying, economic burdens, family issues and exposure to violence can all be risk factors for conditions like depression, according to Dan Reidenberg, executive director of the Suicide Awareness Voices of Education. “People often think that teens can’t get depressed or anxious, but they can. People also often think that it is ‘just normal teen angst,’” Reidenberg told HuffPost. “While the teen brain is still developing, teens do struggle with genuine mental illnesses and they need to be properly evaluated and treated.”

www.huffingtonpost.ca...

I tend to lean with these findings that there may be multiple reasons contributing to teen suicide. Here's another area where the stigma of mental illness caused from many factors or brushing off children's/teenager's angst as hormonal changes that will subside need to be looked at more closely.

Second thoughts about posting all that personal info.

Maybe later.

Happy Thanksgiving all.

originally posted by: silo13
Second thoughts about posting all that personal info.

Maybe later.

Happy Thanksgiving all.

Happy Thanksgiving neighbour and we here at ATS don't seem to remember any personal information posted.

a reply to: InTheLight

I'll post it again. Just not when I'm feeling like... No, I refuse to feel vulnerable.

Here you go.

Posted earlier and edited it out - here it is again.

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Lots to say to all your posts here but it's Thanksgiving and I don't want to go down the road at the moment.

On the other hand, what I feel compelled to say?

I've thought MANY times about starting a thread here on ATS about this 'subject' - but - sadly, I didn't.

Now? I'm 'coming out' of the closet so to speak.

I was a SSI'er. Deep cutter.

I was raped and beaten and left as dirt for over 8 years - 5 to 13.

I was brought up in the church - never blamed Jesus - as HE GOT ME THROUGH! And only HE DID!

I would have been be dead without Christ then, but He saved me.

Then I got out, and I got stupid because once I was 'free' I thought I could 'do it' on 'my own'.

Thank God - when I was 14 my mother kicked me out. I got my period. She knew then, I would be able to conceive and prove her husband and son were rapists. (Edited this post to add the truth).

2 foster homes later I split for the East Coast and became an emancipated minor in Strafford Vermont - God love them all for standing behind me!

And then once I felt strong on my own? I fell away from Jesus.

And after? My life SUCKED!

I made so many bad decisions (thank God never any drugs or prostitution) but had many ruined relationships.

One of those decisions was allowing myself to enter into being a 'deep cutter' - instead of asking someone for help.

'Deep Cutting' solved all my pain. Yeah, that was it, one smooth deep lovely cut to my wrists...

Bleed out until I didn't feel any more pain and then go on living.

Well, that wasn't living.

And then it happened.

God said - 'Have you had enough of this world and doing it on your own?'

I said yes!

Life has been even harder since then - but it's just another day living in a place I don't belong and before too long I will be in the home Jesus is making for me, and all believers, in heaven.

And I will reign with Christ here on earth during the millennium - so - don't be surprised if we meet up then.

You'll be the ones begging for a second chance and I am so sorry for that. I wish you could see the future now as I do.

And no, I'm not saying you'll be 'lost' out of spite or woohoo look at me.

I'm telling you because I love you all and I DON'T want you to be left behind.

Now ask yourself.

What if I'm right.

Just for a second - ask yourself - what if I'm right.

What if all the people who've died for their belief in Christ on a daily basis - are right. And you're not?

What if Christians are right - and - you do have a chance at everlasting peace and life if only you believe?

Well, the Lord says His word will not return void.

So I'll tell you this.

It's not about law, it's not about being holier than thou, it's not about giving up anything.

It's all in just believing Christ came here, to save you, and if you do?

Eternal life.

If not?

You're screwed.

peace

Edit to add...

I am THANKFUL I took the chance to share this with you all.

And yes, I still believe if those young men and women had God, and a church family? They wouldn't be living in a hell here on earth.

And how can I say that for sure?

Because my church and community is full of young kids and they all are happy and healthy and smart, and loving and they've got a FUTURE. They have their problems - but when they do? They have a whole Christian ‘village’ to help them.

What do other kids have?

Death. Period. Drugs. Period. Going 'transgender' just to be cool. And on and on down the hell path.

So believe what you will.

But ya know what?

Read the Revelation of Christ.

In the end?

We win.

I hope and pray you're there with the rest of us.

peace

When it feels like surgery
And it burns like third degree
And you wonder what is it worth?
When your insides breaking in
And you feel that ache again
And you wonder
What's giving birth?
If you could let the pain of the past go
Of your soul
None of this is in your control
If you could only let your guard down
You could learn to trust me somehow
I swear, that I won't let you go
If you could only let go your doubts
If you could just believe in me now
I swear, that I won't let you go
I won’t let you go
When your fear is currency
And you feel that urgency
You want peace but there's war in your head
Maybe that's where life is born
When our façades are torn
Pain gives birth to the promise ahead
If you could let the pain of the past go
Of your soul
None of this is in your control
If you could only let your guard down
If you could learn to trust me somehow
I swear, that I won't let you go
If you could only let go your doubts
If you could just believe in me now
I swear, that I won't let you go
I won’t let you go
I'll always be by your side
Yeah
If you could only let your guard down
If you could learn to trust me somehow
I swear, that I won't let you go
If you could only let go your doubts
If you could just believe in me now
I swear, that I won't let you go
I won’t let you go
(I won’t let you go)
There ain't no darkness strong enough that could tear you out from my heart
There ain't no strength that's strong enough that could tear this love apart
Never gonna let you go
Never gonna let you go
No I won’t let you go