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It only took 20 years, I know what Gray ET are, and what we are doing

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posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: DavidKip


Uh, you are a new member, or an old one with a new screen name. You offer no explanation on how you found all of this out. Please give us some proof, because just taking a "new members" word for it, is not going to happen. Not with this kind of tall tale.










posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 09:32 AM
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Fear no man but God...or so they say.
And judging by the beleif that Jesus an God have a terrifying effect, from what the abyss spews out.

You guys might of been right? And what the other school of thoughts an beleives? Moses splits there bodies from their souls like the red sea? Allah chants an mantras incinerates the so called already burnt an scorched Jinn, where as Buddha would touch Earth, and say to it, bear witness, when they are all blond an pretty?

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posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 09:38 AM
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a reply to: DavidKip



Greetings- Have You looked at "Samsara" ? Here is both the Hindu and Buddhism definitions. Interestingly, if One looks into both of the above, they'll also discover ways to escape the cycle...

en.wikipedia.org...ṃsāra_(Buddhism)

berkleycenter.georgetown.edu...

It should also be noted.. Some folks are going to vote for a 're-boot' rather than float around clouds w/their "loved ones" when in fact even when they were "alive" the loved ones sucked...

Stay Hydrated...

P.S. You'll have '49 Earth days' for Your personal reflection to ascertain if Your Soul (what You REALLY are) 'needs' another spin. For some, this means St. Pete won't be manning the gates...



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 09:49 AM
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originally posted by: DavidKip

What about Jesus ?

Our history contains ton of examples where powerful benevolent beings came to earth to WARN us. But as good meaning as these guys are, they don't have the "juice" to get us out of here. They do their best, but they don't have the power to bring the whole system down. They keep coming to try to wake us up, every few thousand years. But the system remains.


David I post this for you

The aliens you are describing have historically been called "archons", or the rulers. They are essentially the executers of karmic judgement. Here are tips to physically and spiritually deal with them:

1) turn the other cheek - if you fight back you will only perpetuate the violent fruit in your garden.

2) be humble and do not judge - otherwise you are held to a higher judgement standard and your liberties are reduced

3) Love God with all your heart mind and soul - He is King of these archons, for all the archons are meant to teach us through suffering, because an infinity of bliss is out of context unless we first learn through temporary suffering

4) Love all humans, friends and enemies, as your self - this renders all karmic action against others back to you, so it is fitting that you would do unto other as you would want done to you

These rulers wished to find fraudulence in our King, Jesus, but they were incapable of finding any fault in him. They killed him any way, and for this reason, Jesus usurped the throne and became righteous judge of the fallen world and redeemed it for all those who are willing to let go of their toxic, self-centered life and seek the liberty of the Kingdom of God.

JimNasium's post above me was quite right regarding Moksha, the escape from Samsara

Having no money or job, It sounds like you are at the perfect place and time to drop your nets and devote every waking moment to God's path (Mark 10:17-31 Read this) - know that He can easily provide for the faithful. We need warriors like you to feed God and not the system. The illusion begins to show itself as you renounce it!



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 10:27 AM
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as long as the voices who talk to you don't tell you to shoot up schools or movie theaters, its all kosher



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 10:37 AM
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originally posted by: DavidKip they have a way of erasing your memory and sending you back to Earth to be born as a baby, living your crappy pain filled life again and again.


i think this may account for deja vu. it's possibly a momentary recall of an instant in a former life. to be honest, one life has been more than enough for me. ETs - quit it!



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 11:06 AM
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a reply to: St Udio

I didn't write that, I was quoting the Op.

I'm not planning anything and to be frank the last few sentences of the Op has alarm bells ringing. But then it's a new account, we could be getting trolled.



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 11:20 AM
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a reply to: DavidKip
Start listening to good guys music. It's a good starting point.
Good guys music




posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 11:30 AM
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a reply to: DavidKip

And if you need deep soul/spiritual rebalancing, listen several times to "Random Access Memory" complete album from Daft Punk. It will be very effective.



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 11:45 AM
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a reply to: DavidKip

It is possible there are various types of Grey.
Interesting read.
A being that is not aware of its dual existence as you call it (as with the human spirit and body) may not be aware of a being that may have control over the perception of its reality.



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 12:09 PM
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This seems to match up for the most part with what I've read online, I have heard about the aliens trapping souls in the afterlife with visions of loved ones trying to get the souls to travel into the light. The goal of this is to wipe the memory and send the soul back to Earth.

When I die, I might try avoiding the light, but I'm not sure.
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posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: DavidKip
I have really really ridiculously bad news (watched zoolander on cable)


20 years ago I wanted to know if UFOs are real, what they are, what does government know.

After 20 years of research and considerable cost to my own life

Here are the answers

Our planet is currently a farm for very selfish and nefarious Extraterrestrials

They are very advanced but morally and ethically are quite inferior to us generally speaking, their morality is equal to modern intelligence agency like the CIA for example

Just like the worst of humans, these ET believe that ends justify means, so they can do whatever they want, everything is justifiable

They bio-engineered modern human on this planet and are still tweaking our genome to direct our evolution in direction they desire, they see us as their property

They towed the moon into Earth's orbit, I kid you not. The moon is their processing centre.

Just like we have crude oil processing plants, so too they process our day to day life into a form of energy that gives them power and pleasure.

These aliens are not just physical entities with flesh and bones.

THEY HAVE DUAL EXISTENCE

This part is very important to understand, they can switch from physical existence to non corporeal and back again.

They operate in the physical world and they operate in what we would call spirit world, some call it astral dimensions.

Government agencies presently in 2017 know all of this, they use the horrible truth as nice excuse to keep us in the dark and oblivious.

If you ever felt in your life that there is something wrong with the world, the violence, wars, treason, greed, stupidity, never a too long period of peace.

That's because they made our genes so that we can be easily triggered, prone to emotional decision making
and that isn't even enough, they push us behind the scenes to create more wars, violence, treachery etc

These aliens are true founders of False Flags, agencies like the CIA and Mossad etc are merely latest good students

When we suffer on this planet, we create invisible energy of anger and sadness that aliens tap into and using their processing plant the moon convert it into energy they need.

Even if we refused to kill each other, ETs would then resort to creating a new kind of plague that kills slowly.

Eventually when planet is filled with plenty of humans, they do mass culling, through world wars, or natural disasters on biblical scale

If we get too technological, they will take us down a notch or two

Some humans are secretly recruited to be their cannon fodder soldiers in alien wars on far away planets, but we are completely unaware of it. They serve as pilots, workers and war sacrifice where needed.

After this hellish existence on this planet Earth, you might think that at least in death you will be free.

WROOOONG

turns out these aliens are seriously bad

They operate in the spirit world and have mined the spirit world with traps to catch our souls as we die, as soon as you are caught into one of these astral traps, they have a way of erasing your memory and sending you back to Earth to be born as a baby, living your crappy pain filled life again and again.

From my research it seems some of us manage to escape, but not many.

The number of escapees is so small that it doesn't concern these ET's

After you die, and you see your loved ones guiding you into the light, or seeing your version of God etc

Or even coming across beautiful landscape or music portals.

It is most likely a trap meant to lure you in.

They'll try to "love" you into a trap, they'll try to "guilt" you into a trap.

If you do not take charge of yourself in the afterlife and allow someone or something else to lead you, without critical thinking on your part, all you'll get is a reset and re-birth on earth.

You will live here and cry your tears as you nourish those who laugh at your pain.


What about God ?

God seems to be too busy with complex things to care what some of its creation does. God has bigger fish to fry and isn't coming to help us.

What about Jesus ?

Our history contains ton of examples where powerful benevolent beings came to earth to WARN us. But as good meaning as these guys are, they don't have the "juice" to get us out of here. They do their best, but they don't have the power to bring the whole system down. They keep coming to try to wake us up, every few thousand years. But the system remains.

The good news is they can't kill you

The bad news is they killed your mind

Over and over and over again.

I know it is a lot to take in.

But I swear to you, it is the truth.

This knowledge came at considerable cost to me in this life, I was abducted, I am currently targeted individual by intelligence agencies (or possibly their contractors)

I am almost broke, they go as far as sabotaging my employment, they call my supervisors and tell them i am under investigation, next thing you know i am "let go", pain and misery and suicidal thoughts are daily part of my reality

But, if I manage to escape the process of reincarnation, all of this would have been worth it.

If I don't manage to escape, then I would have been better off not knowing any of this.

If I manage to escape, I'll try to work on a way of rescuing the rest of you.

I'll talk to Jesus, he can't work alone anymore, we need to gang up on the system. We need numbers and plan of attack.


The last time I tried a certain kind of sage, I did it the way the South American shamans used to do. I chewed the leaves for about a half hour or so. For about an hour I experienced the most intense derealization of existence I think I've ever had. Nothing changed, I didn't hallucinate or anything. I just came to this profound understanding and realization that nothing around me was real. The world around me was like the backdrop of a play and it seemed so simple that I should just be able to move it all away and see reality and the things behind it. I don't know what the things are but they've been there everytime I've tried it. I always have the sense they're watching me and laughing at me in the way a person would if an ant suddenly understood what it was in relation to humans.

On a sort of unrelated note I then went on to be possessed by something that screamed at me I was wasting my life and made me walk into the wall over and over again saying this is what I was spending my time doing. At the time, I was playing too much Minecraft which, if you've ever played it, you spend a lot of time walking into walls. I've also just generally had a problem with playing too much video games in general.

This was about 5 or 6 years ago. I've haven't really played videogames since and haven't had any more sage. But I've never gotten over the feeling of everything being unreal and the sense that there's more we can't see.



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 12:28 PM
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originally posted by: Justso
a reply to: frenchfries

You are definitely not helping this poor guy who has obvious mental issues. Don't push your prejudice against pills on this guy. It may be the only thing that will help him get out of his head and lead a normal life. Something tells me you arn't taking yours and are still suffering.


Bit harsh. What makes you think the OP has mental health issues. The OPs narrative of the universe may be very different to yours. That does not mean that have mental health issues..

What do you believe in. Do you believe in the big bang.? Thats this universe came out of a puff of nothing. That which we call fact can be magic tails too.!



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 12:30 PM
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originally posted by: darkbake
This seems to match up for the most part with what I've read online, I have heard about the aliens trapping souls in the afterlife with visions of loved ones trying to get the souls to travel into the light. The goal of this is to wipe the memory and send the soul back to Earth.

When I die, I might try avoiding the light, but I'm not sure.


The moon is where souls go to be recycled. There is a part of us that is different. Part of us comes from the sun and that bit is untouchable thats our light body.



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 12:41 PM
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Here's a conspiracy for you all. How the hell did the OP get to put a OP when he only just joined today? I thought that you had to have so many replies before you could put posts on?



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 01:13 PM
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No offense op , but this seems more like it took 20 mins, basically the time it took to write this.

None of this seems original at all, it’s just a mashup of theories already been thrown around here on ATS, andby incredibly dubious characters in the UFO field.



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 01:19 PM
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originally posted by: darkbake
This seems to match up for the most part with what I've read online, I have heard about the aliens trapping souls in the afterlife with visions of loved ones trying to get the souls to travel into the light. The goal of this is to wipe the memory and send the soul back to Earth.

When I die, I might try avoiding the light, but I'm not sure.


I've had the same kind of thoughts, but then I thought, WHO's the one's telling us not to go to the light, the creepy evil aliens !

My beloved passed away recently of Cancer and I know he told me that he was at Peace with God, and we prayed. I do wonder if he was given a choice to come back to Earth and what he would have picked ? He died young, 45 yrs. old, and that question haunts me to be honest.

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posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 01:26 PM
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None of this seems original at all, it’s just a mashup of theories already been thrown around here on ATS, andby incredibly dubious characters in the UFO field.


This sounds like Tom D is working on his upcoming novel.



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 01:29 PM
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everting you said is bs
for an start read jacques vallee, the other stuff will come later



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 02:14 PM
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What proof has the OP offered? Until you offer some type of source, sounds like it is just made up.




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