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So much for the security of Apple Iphone X face ID

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posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 09:16 PM
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Long story short, a 10 year old boy can unlock his moms IPhone X at will using face id. And I don't think he looks anything like her, also if it reads your face with "30,000 IR dots" does it not know the size of your face and proportions of your face? The kids face is a lot smaller than his moms and, again, doesn't really look like her. Apple is trying to make excuses that she needs to remap her face outside in natural lighting? Come on Apple you can do better.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 09:21 PM
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im not sure why people never found it odd that phones started to incorporate iris scanner , voice recognition, and face recognition in them without the consumer pushing for it.

while the technology is rather problematic , it does do a great job on getting peoples scans .


edit on 221130America/ChicagoTue, 14 Nov 2017 21:22:20 -0600000000p3042 by interupt42 because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 09:23 PM
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They pass it off as convenient and cool and we buy into it hook, line and sinker.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 09:29 PM
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a reply to: norhoc Well now NASA we have a problem. They should have multiple models to choose from with features that one wants. Kinda like buying a new car. That may sounds stupid but I have zero need for a front facing camera. Face recognition seems like a bad idea. Passwords have worked for years just fine. The finger print scan a face recognition is too far Imo.




posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 09:30 PM
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Anal scanners are the only way we can be secure.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 09:33 PM
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a reply to: norhoc

Size doesn't really matter, because size is relevant. The amount of your face taken up in a camera image is going to be dependent on the size of your face and the camera distance for example. Instead, these systems rely on proportions.

Facial ID, particularly between related people in poor lighting is not perfect. Apple didn't solve that.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 09:35 PM
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a reply to: Allaroundyou

Biometrics are much more secure than passwords, especially short passwords.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 09:43 PM
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Everyone demand their money back, lol.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 09:48 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan It may be very secure until you are passed out and someone want to gain access to your phone or laptop. I still rely on short passwords and I change it every three months and I don't use android or apple. As from what I understand windows phones are more secure kinda like Blackberry. I could be mistaken but idk.




posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 10:36 PM
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originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: Aazadan It may be very secure until you are passed out and someone want to gain access to your phone or laptop. I still rely on short passwords and I change it every three months and I don't use android or apple. As from what I understand windows phones are more secure kinda like Blackberry. I could be mistaken but idk.




I can go you one better.

I challenge anyone to hack a 1/2 house brick. The security of these things is incredible!




posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 10:39 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut Ummm WHAT lol you have me rolling on the ground with that





posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 10:41 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut I think a rpg or tow can break into most. Last I checked those are hard to come by, but I have not checked Amazon lately.




posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 11:44 PM
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Here’s another one... (quartz.com)

qz.com...

I think it is over hyped tech. But what do I know. I typically use my “smart phone” as a dumb phone because I don’t want people to know where I am. I have a iPhone but have never used Siri or GPS crap. F the Cloud!!!



posted on Nov, 15 2017 @ 01:11 AM
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originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: norhoc

im not sure why people never found it odd that phones started to incorporate iris scanner , voice recognition, and face recognition in them without the consumer pushing for it.

while the technology is rather problematic , it does do a great job on getting peoples scans .



What a creepy thought. But sooo true!



posted on Nov, 15 2017 @ 01:30 AM
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originally posted by: norhoc
www.wired.com...

Long story short, a 10 year old boy can unlock his moms IPhone X at will using face id. And I don't think he looks anything like her, also if it reads your face with "30,000 IR dots" does it not know the size of your face and proportions of your face? The kids face is a lot smaller than his moms and, again, doesn't really look like her. Apple is trying to make excuses that she needs to remap her face outside in natural lighting? Come on Apple you can do better.


One day your phone will not open unless you give it a voice print, a face scan, a retina scan and a DNA sample via a finger print. It will record every outbound and every incoming phone call, text, email, video call and oral message. As it already records your GPS location every 10 metres there will no change to that.

my phone updated with 01 gigibyte of 'updates' recently. my display's are crap I need to do more actions to do what i could with less actions before. I now have less control over my phone.

All in the name of 'security' well, no worries, but whose security? my own or the governments security?

you seem to want greater government (and therefore by extension) corporate control over your life so best of luck with your very caring government who, it seems, you believe, cares immensely about your personal safety and security but who does not give two dobs of goat crap for your financial security. Besta luck, cheers.



posted on Nov, 15 2017 @ 08:14 AM
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Yep, face id technology on mobile devices is still in its infancy. I also recall reading about fingerprint scanners on iPhones not being so secure either. I believe there was a dog/cat that could unlock the phone with their paw!

Oh well, all that comes to mind reading this latest story is: "Like mother, like son" and "The Apple doesn't fall far from the tree".



posted on Nov, 15 2017 @ 09:21 AM
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Where do you get , from my post, that I seem to want more government control over my life? You could not be further from the truth. Perhaps take a reading comprehension course and quit making assumptions



posted on Nov, 15 2017 @ 09:41 AM
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New security is the marketing line for dumb consumers. It's really so the NSA and global intel agencies can track everyone by phone and visual ID everyone and track everything... This is ATS isn't it?



posted on Nov, 15 2017 @ 10:13 AM
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Probably a bunch of cut and paste engineers that can't program on their own. Not that that happens but yeah it does and the public is stuck with garbage because the company saved money.




posted on Nov, 15 2017 @ 10:44 AM
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originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: norhoc

Size doesn't really matter, because size is relevant. The amount of your face taken up in a camera image is going to be dependent on the size of your face and the camera distance for example. Instead, these systems rely on proportions.

Facial ID, particularly between related people in poor lighting is not perfect. Apple didn't solve that.


doesn't it feature IR-based depth sensor? in such case, it can detect the distance (so it can calculate the actual size of the face, based on the distance), and it should be able to do it in the darkness. the face scan is 3d, otherwise a simple photo would work.
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