Are The "Trump Tapes" Fake or Not!?

a reply to: thepixelpusher

Yes, because an intentional leak by Comey to let the American people know what's up represents the entire Western intelligence community.

That was sarcasm by the way, sometimes it can be hard to detect, the English language is tricky! )))

a reply to: Kettu

Again, read my posts above...YOU HAVE NO PROOF, while I've shown plenty.

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: darkbake

I'm reluctant to give these clickbait FAKE NEWS websites more traffic, but here is some recent FAKE NEWS article addressing this "Supposed Evidence" that people are quoting from. RAW STORY website is like reading BEFORE IT'S NEWS clickbait.

Multip le intel agencies claim to have Trump sex videos — but some fakes are floating around: Ex-NSA analyst

So, the article did not produce any evidence. I can't believe anyone would fall for an article like this. At least they should name the agencies that have the tapes. It would give at least give some reliability to the article. The thing is that if they did give the name of the agencies, those agencies could go after the author for telling a lie which discredits their agency. I never even pay attention to articles like the one you listed because most times they are just propaganda created to put doubt into the citizens of the USA. I would think this would be a spawn of the EU myself, they want the USA to bow down to them.

a reply to: Kettu

If your candidate wins in 2020 and dirt surfaces on them, you'll be quoting my thread as proof of a setup against them.

Music. We can all believe in music at least.

Especially if there are no lyrics.

Music is my religion.

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: Kettu

If your candidate wins in 2020 and dirt surfaces on them, you'll be quoting my thread as proof of a setup against them.

Thanks for the encouragement that someone else besides Trump will win in 2020!

You probably have a lot better sources for that kind of information than I do, I'm currently over in Amsterdam right now -- an expat and can't really feel the "vibe" back home.

a reply to: Kettu

I'm in the States and was probably as shocked as you that trump won. I'm no pollster and this thread is meant to address a larger issue than Trump. I fear for our Democracy with stuff like this being used.

How do you like Amersterdam? I think it's an interesting place and I'm jealous of you.

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

Amen.

a reply to: Illumimasontruth

TAKE YOUR PICK...

Trump’s refusal to divest from his business dealings arguably violates Constitutional bans on federal officials accepting money from foreign governments.

If Trump colluded with foreign powers to influence an American election, that is unquestionably the kind of betrayal of the presidency that the founding fathers were thinking about when they created the process of impeachment.

Trump’s decision to pardon Joe Arpaio, a political ally and former sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona, is arguably an abuse of the pardon power—exactly the sort of action that impeachment was supposed to curb.

All of these would certainly be stronger grounds for impeachment than the articles passed by the House against former presidents Bill Clinton, impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice tied to an investigation into his relationship with Monica Lewinsky, and Andrew Johnson, impeached for removing his own Secretary of War after Congress passed a (probably unconstitutional) law forbidding him from doing so. That’s not saying much, though, since Sunstein—and other legal scholars—believe that the Clinton and Johnson impeachments were poorly handled and extremely partisan.

Keep in mind, the republican lead congress spent more money on Clinton's impeachment than what they spent on the investigations into the 9/11 attacks.

Reasons for Impeachment

I would strongly suggest reading this source article. It brings up some very valid points.

a reply to: thepixelpusher

You'd be surprised how early everything -- and I mean everything (besides the infamous red light district) closes. If you ever make the trip, you can get run over a number of ways. There's the buses, the trains, the trams, the cars, the bike lanes. Make SURE you stay in the "people lane".

Lots of IT work over here. It's sad that the Netherlands has such a more robust IT infrastructure than the states. Web hosting services are popping up all over the place.

Anyway, one of the things they can't currently do right now is convincingly duplicate an entire naked person's body. There are moles, freckles, tattoos ect that would be damn near impossible to duplicate without CGI (think Gollum from LOTR). CGI would leave markers that could be identified by video forensics.

Back in the early days of the internet there were a LOT of fake nudes of celebrities. People made a hobby out of identifying the fakes. If you know how to make them, you also can spot them. The best people at spotting fakes were the same people that were good at making them.

Hell, Trump might not even be Trump, and the rumors of his death back in 2012 might be real. I heard they're using a Israeli Mossad body double and CGI (like what you posted) to get closer to Putin and the Kremlin. Americans might have gotten duped in 2016 and not even elected the "real" Donald Trump...

a reply to: WeRpeons

How does that relate to this thread? The thread discusses the power of technology to shape opinion.

a reply to: Kettu

How does one get a job over there?

a reply to: Kettu

Hell, Trump might not even be Trump, and the rumors of his death back in 2012 might be real. I heard they're using a Israeli Mossad body double and CGI (like what you posted) to get closer to Putin and the Kremlin. Americans might have gotten duped in 2016 and not even elected the "real" Donald Trump...

Wow, first I've heard that Trump was dead. Reminds me of the Paul is dead Beatles stories.

a reply to: thepixelpusher

Excuse me, but you brought up the idea that Trump's tapes could be faked. I presented a reason why his public videos can not be faked because of multiple witnesses to his speeches. My second response was to a poster's reply to my post. I'll politely remove myself from further comments in your thread since it sounds like I ruffled your feathers . Carry on...

So those supposed shocking "Trump Tapes" out there we keep hearing about that the NSA has may be no more than a recreation based off video and audio samples from Trump.

a reply to: WeRpeons

Don't go. I'd be interested in hearing if you think the media marginalized your pick by technology. There is bigger picture to this thread.

Show me the money.

Until any and all of these tapes are released, right now I will say they are fake.

Poker, requires a bit of a skill of bluffing the other guy that you have a better hand than he does. And in the end one has to show the cards, if no one folds. Well in this case, I am saying that until they are released and we can view such, we should take such with a grain of salt. Now should they be released, and if they can be analysed and shown to be true, then that would be a different story.

originally posted by: Kettu
a reply to: thepixelpusher

Less than two days ago The Observer posted an article about the Kremlin seeding/releasing dozens of "fake Trump videos", muddying the waters in an apparent attempt to cover up the real tape.

So, Kremlin puts out a bunch of fake tapes to make it hard to believe when the real tape goes public (possibly soon?) and then this topic gets raised without a reference to the Kremlin's antics creating fake Trump tapes?

Hmmmmm....very, very.... interesting timing for this thread meethinks )))

What 'real' tape??? You seem sure that any talk of there not being a tape or a faked tape is some sort of distraction.

If a sex tape exists of Trump I am not sure why anyone would be interested anyway.

The technology for putting other peoples faces on bodies while very clever, can still be quite easily detected when you examine the film on a pixel by pixel basis. The joins are pretty obvious to experts. The shadows never match up 100%. There's always tells.


To be honest if people are putting out the story that Trumps head has been photoshopped onto a sex video, then that just makes me think it might actually be true that these tapes are out there, and they want to try and get their excuses in before they leak.

a reply to: Regnor

Doesn't it just...
We've seen this tactic before.
Tapes...interesting.
Further proof of the authenticity of the contents of the dossier???

a reply to: Dudemo5

There have been rumors for weeks now that there are tapes.
This is sure not the first time I'm hearing whispers about them.

Of course that could just be someone trying to keep people's interest up.