Forbidden Archaeology - Civilizations Existed Before the Last Ice Age

a reply to: Hanslune



Graham Hancock is an expert at being able to put in lay terms, the works of other geologists and astrophysicists. The scientists themselves that worked on these theories are incredibly smart, but unable to hold an audience, basically because they are far too granular to be able to accurately explain what they have found. This is why Graham is so revered by most of us that follow this fascinating subject.

The cataclysm happened. The Clovis civilizations were wiped out. There is the Black Mat, and the fact that there are no Wooly Mammoth or Mastadon bones above that line of 13k years ago. There is iridium in the Black Mat. The list goes on, but once you get facts like that, you really do not have to go much deeper to realize that there was a major calamity, and it came from above.

a reply to: charlyv

I was about to hint on the iridium and Nano-diamonds. Not to mention the impact craters that can be seen on the bottoms of the great lakes. Along with the black mat you speak of, which covers the entirety of North America. An impact occurred. There was an extinction event of large mammals in North America at this time the Mississippi river basin was flooded, the time the black mat was created, and the time the nano-diamonds were spread across the continent.

I did a pretty lengthy write up back in 2015 on this subject : www.abovetopsecret.com...

It reports that sea levels at that time, DID rise in excess of tens of feet a night. It doesn't take much to wipe a small village off the map when 10ft oceans come rolling in during the night.

Additionally, this event masked the sun, and darkened the sky's for 1000 years!!! Enough to send the globe BACK into the ice age for that time. It was not a good time to be alive, anywhere on the planet.

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Well i dont have time now
but i need to see this video !

I like G Hancock ,

he Tries the Scientific Approach, Usually at first hand ,

and some time strays like many ,
if He cant find a Sensible Possible conclusion
or Theorizes predicts what it perhaps could be ,
most think its factual what He theorizes..

Hancock is
kinda like Arthur C Clark in Clarkes TV Show Mysterious World/universe

www.youtube.com...

How do you think the pyramids were built? - Graham Hancock

a reply to: Triton1128

There's a thread that features a 10,000 year old village in Canada.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: Triton1128
a reply to: charlyv

I was about to hint on the iridium and Nano-diamonds. Not to mention the impact craters that can be seen on the bottoms of the great lakes. Along with the black mat you speak of, which covers the entirety of North America. An impact occurred. There was an extinction event of large mammals in North America at this time the Mississippi river basin was flooded, the time the black mat was created, and the time the nano-diamonds were spread across the continent.

I did a pretty lengthy write up back in 2015 on this subject : www.abovetopsecret.com...

It reports that sea levels at that time, DID rise in excess of tens of feet a night. It doesn't take much to wipe a small village off the map when 10ft oceans come rolling in during the night.

Additionally, this event masked the sun, and darkened the sky's for 1000 years!!! Enough to send the globe BACK into the ice age for that time. It was not a good time to be alive, anywhere on the planet.

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You do know that study was disproven dont you? Further analysis of Younger Dyras boundary sediments at 9 sites, released in June 2016, found no evidence of an extraterrestrial impact at the YDB. In December 2016, an analysis of nanodiamond evidence failed to uncover lonsdaleite or a spike in nanodiamond concentration at the YDB. In other words the basis for the paper was wrong. The other problems no mass extinction occurs in the fossil record.

I will take the liberty to link to a poem I published specifically about this subject, as it has received only scant attention since it was moved to the Music category.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: dragonridr

You do know they found newer evidence to support it correct ?

New Studies add Evidence to the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis >

www.earthmagazine.org...

www.unknowncountry.com...

www.sciencedaily.com...


All from this year ^ 2017

"Our data show that this anomaly is present in sediments from U.S. archaeological sites that date to the start of the Younger-Dryas event. It is continental in scale -- possibly global -- and it's consistent with the hypothesis that an extraterrestrial impact took place."

- ScienceDaily

The presence of elevated platinum in archaeological sites is a confirmation of data previously reported for the Younger-Dryas onset several years ago in a Greenland ice-core. The authors for that study concluded that the most likely source of such platinum enrichment was from the impact of an extraterrestrial object

-phys.org


Here is more :

www.sciencealert.com...

Researchers have translated famous ancient symbols in a temple in Turkey, and they tell the story of a devastating comet impact more than 13,000 years ago. Cross-checking the event with computer simulations of the Solar System around that time, researchers suggest that the carvings could describe a comet impact that occurred around 10,950 BCE - about the same time a mini ice age started that changed civilisation forever.

-April 2017

originally posted by: Triton1128
a reply to: dragonridr

You do know they found newer evidence to support it correct ?

New Studies add Evidence to the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis >

www.earthmagazine.org...

www.unknowncountry.com...

www.sciencedaily.com...


All from this year ^ 2017

"Our data show that this anomaly is present in sediments from U.S. archaeological sites that date to the start of the Younger-Dryas event. It is continental in scale -- possibly global -- and it's consistent with the hypothesis that an extraterrestrial impact took place."

- ScienceDaily

The presence of elevated platinum in archaeological sites is a confirmation of data previously reported for the Younger-Dryas onset several years ago in a Greenland ice-core. The authors for that study concluded that the most likely source of such platinum enrichment was from the impact of an extraterrestrial object

-phys.org

Major fail those articles are just discuss g the original paper. And even they state it's unlikely in one of your own sources. Evidence doesn't suddenly apear then disappear then reapear. All this articles are discussing the original findings they are not addressing the new study.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

news.nationalgeographic.com...

And here I'll include thus one it's from 2017

onlinelibrary.wiley.com...

onlinelibrary.wiley.com...

There are literally hundreds of papers disproving this hypothesis. It was an imaginative idea but it didn't hold up to scrutiny.


One more thing notice I post research papers you post opinion pieces. I really don't care if a science writer believes something half the time they are wrong because they don't do research

a reply to: dragonridr

I'm not discussing the nano-diamonds. I'm discussing the large abundance of platinum and iridium that they are finding at these sights, int he "charred black layer".

The wonderful thing about life, is we all have our own opinions. Maybe time will prove it one way or the other definitively, thanks for taking the time to respond and partake in the discussion. Its obvious there are several different views here. Not only between you and I.

a reply to: Triton1128

Definitely setting some time to one side to watch this tonight. Love this topic I find it fascinating and really gets the mind working. Thanks for posting.

And that may well be why North America has no large megalithic structures like the other continents. We may well find there are huge structures in North America, but buried many fee below the surface. Even as far south and up in altitude, Pumapuku was buried for how many thousands of years????

originally posted by: [post=22839417]

The cataclysm happened. The Clovis civilizations were wiped out. There is the Black Mat, and the fact that there are no Wooly Mammoth or Mastadon bones above that line of 13k years ago.

but there are of other species that lived in North America (and bison numbers increased considerably) - plus, of course, there are Woolly Mammoth bones from much later elsewhere in the world (the last only died out around 5,000 years ago).

Whilst there is evidence of cataclysmic local events (the Missoula Floods, for example) there is no evidence of widespread simultaneous global events.

A massive event such as you describe would have likely removed much of the archaeology and remains that we do find. And left large sediment deposits otherwise inexplicable.

And if anyone mapped Antarctica 12,000 odd years ago they would have depicted it much as today but with glaciers larger (due to lower sea levels) and more extensive sea ice.

I am still undecided on the "Clovis Comet" - there is plenty of conflicting evidence from reliable sources. But theres no evidence of an advanced global civilsation from that time that coincidently was entirely wiped out whilst our ancestors survived.

originally posted by: Triton1128
a reply to: dragonridr

You do know they found newer evidence to support it correct ?

Personally I wonder if there was an impact, but not as large and globally significant as some suggest?

originally posted by: Triton1128
a reply to: havok

Its actually one of the best summarized videos I've watched. It ties in the Younger Dryas impact event as the point in history that brought down this previous civilization. (or what was left of it)

The Younger Dryas event may have been caused by a extra-solar nuclear event like a supernova. There is geological evidence across North America:

abob.libs.uga.edu...

"The enormous energy released by the catastrophe at 12,500 yr B.P. could have heated the atmosphere to over 1000°C over Michigan, and the neutron flux at more northern locations would have melted considerable glacial ice. Radiation effects on plants and animals exposed to the cosmic rays would have been lethal, comparable to being irradiated in a 5-megawatt reactor more than 100 seconds."

originally posted by: Wolfenz
he Tries the Scientific Approach, Usually at first hand

Well, not quite. He does that confirmation bias thing where he has a hypothesis, and then he intentionally seeks out evidence to confirm that hypothesis. Actual scientific method takes a hypothesis and then comes up with one or more objective tests to see if the relationship between the variables holds up or not. It might not. So it's not the same thing.

originally posted by: daveinats
And that may well be why North America has no large megalithic structures like the other continents. We may well find there are huge structures in North America, but buried many fee below the surface. Even as far south and up in altitude, Pumapuku was buried for how many thousands of years????

The ice sheets still covered North America and Europe at that time. The theory is that the single point where all the Great Lakes point to is below the point where an asteroid would have struck Earth. The heat would have instantly melted the ice sheet and polar cap, setting things up for sea-levels to rise. Trees didn't cover the land again until 8000 years ago. Aboriginal tales have been tested to be true for between 12000 and 7000 years ago:

www.tandfonline.com...

a reply to: Triton1128

Fascinating find. Thanks for that.

He shows a photo of what I would guess to be fertility figures, dated to 29,000 years ago? Did I get that right?

a reply to: Triton1128

Fascinating stuff! I always enjoy listening to his lectures. Something new, every time, and he covers a lot of ground! The soil, in the Amazon, I hadn't heard about before. Engineered soil, and much evidence of very old civilizations! the comet/Clovis connection, I hadn't heard, either! Always something new, and interesting!

Seems it's time for mainstream archaeology to wake up and smell the coffee. There is much we do not know!!

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: havok


If their was an advanced civilization 12 thousand years back, who mapped the Earth, it means by default that they were accomplished travelers and could get around the globe. Which begs the question why does our DNA read differently for different regions. How can I get a DNA test that links my ancestors to a particular region. Which means if their was an advanced civilization most of us were the local workers, staying in one place and doing the bidding of whoever had a wider understanding of the power structure in place . So are we looking at a relatively small elite group getting wiped out and the rest of us getting by as best we could with whatever skills remained?

I'd say, it's because there were so few left, that civilization as we know it now started fro a very small area, and people spread out as is now accepted science. The only issue is that accepted science doesn't want to accept that there is far older history to be learned. Whatever the genetic distribution before, that all changed, with such a massive event.

a reply to: Triton1128

Graham Hancock is always worth hearing out.

Thanks for sharing this.