While everyone argues who has the biggest ties to Russia the FCC is poised to destroy NetNeutrality

Put the voter fraud debacle together with the FCC and a free speech venue all together in a hat, mix it up and what do you get?

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Ajit Pai has openly admitted to wanting to scrap net neutrality. What made Trump think this guy was a good fit is beyond me, it's obvious he's in the pockets of the ISP's who are the ones who would benefit the most from ending net neutrality.

No Trump supporters have chimed in yet, I wonder why?

I voted for Trump and I say fire every last politician (Republican or Democrat) that supports net neutrality. And if Trump supports it, fire Trump too!

Asktheanimals thanks for that link, I signed the pitition and I also retweeted Occupythefcc.com. I have over ten thousand followers on twitter so that should put a tiny dent in it.

By acting against net neutrality, you are acting against the future existence of ATS.

Very soon the FCC will call a vote on their ironically named proposed "Restoring Internet Freedom" Law. This measure will allow US based ISP's to treat different types of traffic differently. Meaning they could charge you a base price to access just websites, then charge you more if you want to use Facebook, and charge you even more if you want to use Youtube.

'Tiered' internet service just like Cable "packages".

Not only, they eventually want to remove two way discourse, too.

Poor media moguls, they miss being the only ones to tell you whats going on in the world. If they have their way they will return to the days before the internet, when the only information one received was top down, one way dissemination from tv, radio and newspapers.

Imagine the internet flashing in the future, "Sorry, comments section has been disabled".

Honest question. Will this effect porn sites like pornhub? Cause that would suck for a very large percent of the population who require the sorts of theraputic services sites like that provide

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Ajit Pai has openly admitted to wanting to scrap net neutrality. What made Trump think this guy was a good fit is beyond me, it's obvious he's in the pockets of the ISP's who are the ones who would benefit the most from ending net neutrality.

No Trump supporters have chimed in yet, I wonder why?

I voted for Trump and I say fire every last politician (Republican or Democrat) that supports net neutrality. And if Trump supports it, fire Trump too!

Asktheanimals thanks for that link, I signed the pitition and I also retweeted Occupythefcc.com. I have over ten thousand followers on twitter so that should put a tiny dent in it.

By acting against net neutrality, you are acting against the future existence of ATS.

Lol that’s a mistype I meant is against not for hahaha oh my gosh that’s 😄 funny

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Ajit Pai has openly admitted to wanting to scrap net neutrality. What made Trump think this guy was a good fit is beyond me, it's obvious he's in the pockets of the ISP's who are the ones who would benefit the most from ending net neutrality.

No Trump supporters have chimed in yet, I wonder why?

I voted for Trump and I say fire every last politician (Republican or Democrat) that supports net neutrality. And if Trump supports it, fire Trump too!

Asktheanimals thanks for that link, I signed the pitition and I also retweeted Occupythefcc.com. I have over ten thousand followers on twitter so that should put a tiny dent in it.

By acting against net neutrality, you are acting against the future existence of ATS.

Lol that’s a mistype I meant is against not for hahaha oh my gosh that’s 😄 funny

how about cutting out all foreign advertising regarding American politics

originally posted by: Wayfarer
a reply to: cinerama

Yeah keep in mind a sizable portion of this very forum believes Trump and Co's endeavor to destroy Net Neutrality is a good thing and another way to stick it to those Libs!

I've never met or ran into a single person who didn't support net neutrality. In real life or on ATS. I'm on here every single day.

Good for them. I've said it before and I'll say it again; their greed will eventually eat them. People like me will drop the internet....

a reply to: BadBoYeed

Once it goes that way it will never go back, cable and satellite are good examples...

If this happens there could be a very lucrative opportunity for one or a few of these companies. They could continue to offer net-neutrality and mop up the droves of customers that will drop the other companies and their rip-off bundled packages like a red-hot spud.

originally posted by: doobydollThey could continue to offer net-neutrality and mop up the droves of customers that will drop the other companies and their rip-off bundled packages like a red-hot spud.

If it were options based then yes, but if the FCC guidelines state how they must operate as a mandate, then unless they want to continue breaking the law (which of course is their option) they won't be able to as nice as it would be to think about.

a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

A VPN wouldn't protect you, it also wouldn't stop most sites from having to become subscription based because they'll have to pay an ISP for unthrottled access, in addition to their internet bills they already pay.

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Wayfarer
a reply to: cinerama

Yeah keep in mind a sizable portion of this very forum believes Trump and Co's endeavor to destroy Net Neutrality is a good thing and another way to stick it to those Libs!

Oh yeah? Well I challenge you and everyone that starred your post to give me just three examples of such. Shouldn’t be too hard since it would be a “sizable portion“ of 300k+ members.

Unfortunately ATS terms and conditions prevent calling members out like this. Suffice it to say, there are many who are anti NN if for no other reason than it creates liberal tears.

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
Honest question. Will this effect porn sites like pornhub? Cause that would suck for a very large percent of the population who require the sorts of theraputic services sites like that provide

People in the past bought HBO and Cinemax subscriptions for that. I'm guessing that ISP's would offer an adult package, and then probably a torrent package and a streaming package. So you pay for torrents or streaming, then access to the website of your choice like Pornhub, and then you pay a subscription at Pornhub for access to their website.

originally posted by: doobydoll
If this happens there could be a very lucrative opportunity for one or a few of these companies. They could continue to offer net-neutrality and mop up the droves of customers that will drop the other companies and their rip-off bundled packages like a red-hot spud.

That's one of the arguments against it. If they remove NN rules, then ISP's can move away from it, and if customers still want it, competition will bring it back.

The problem is that the vast majority (over 95%) of all internet markets have only one ISP and these same ISP's have legally fought to prevent any competition from forming.

Even if that were to happen though, it does nothing to the provider side where a website will be forced into a subscription model in order to pay the TWC, Comcast, etc... taxes just to keep their website fast. So in the end, even if there's competition, prices will still go up.

originally posted by: SRPrime

originally posted by: Wayfarer
a reply to: cinerama

Yeah keep in mind a sizable portion of this very forum believes Trump and Co's endeavor to destroy Net Neutrality is a good thing and another way to stick it to those Libs!

I've never met or ran into a single person who didn't support net neutrality. In real life or on ATS. I'm on here every single day.

I think you would find it difficult to cajole any single conservative member into admitting it, but the resultant effect of voting for Trump is dismembering Net Neutrality. Most Trump voters consider Net Neutrality less important that the half dozen or so Trump Campaign promises (that ironically have yet to materialize), so although they're not specifically against Net Neutrality, its just not important enough to them to warrant voting for someone else. Hence, Net Neutrality will disappear, the internet will double or triple in expense, and everyone will get less access at slower speeds than they have now. The real masterstroke will be in 10 years or so when the Republican's propagandize how the Dem's ruined the internet.

a reply to: BlackJackal

Interesting enough, it looks like comcast may have been testing throttling already.

Yesterday many here were having issues accesing ATS and most of us including my self were on comcast.
Anyone else having issues with the site being slow?

I knew something was up when I was getting 60MB download and 15Mb upload and certain sites worked, while others sites such as ATS were slower than dirt. Also using my cell phone ATT connection ATS worked just fine. The issue was only with Comcast and only certain sites.

Today techcrunch reported the issue was comcast wide.

Apparently they are blaming the issue on a configuration change. Right I wonder what that configuration change was.

Seriously folks your internet and your only voice against the big guys is about to get killed if you don't wake the F up.

Among ATS getting slowed to a crawl so did other social media sites. This is a form of censorship.

Certain sites would load just fine, but the vast majority (from Reddit to Facebook to TechCrunch) simply timed out.

I'm glad that crooked Hillary didn't get elected , but Trump couldn't have picked a worst ISP lobbying wh0re (Ajit Pai ) to run the FCC.

Ajit Pai was the head of the ISP lobbying group who was trying to get rid of net neutrality principles on behalf of his clients and most hated companies by its customer base such as comcast ,verizon, and att.

originally posted by: intrptr

Poor media moguls, they miss being the only ones to tell you whats going on in the world. If they have their way they will return to the days before the internet, when the only information one received was top down, one way dissemination from tv, radio and newspapers.

This is a good point, with the Net Neutrality laws getting shot down by Trump's FCC Chairman, I bet most of the internet won't even be accessible anymore. As much as I don't agree with alt-right online media, I think it should have the right to have a presence online. Even ATS could be in danger with this.

Go to congress.gov and create an account and it will send updates to your e-mail address when the status of the bill changes. I signed myself up because I am concerned about this legislation. It has 11 co-sponsors, all Republicans.