The U.S is run by judges and liberal lobbyists who command them?

It's all about the money,thats has been evident thru ,the rich fuel the economy,if they take all their money out of the country would cause turmoil,face it whoever has the money makes the rules,nothing new

a reply to: RAY1990

I live in DC and sometimes go to the "high profile" hearings/trials. You don't see half of what's going on and it's party Nuetral. Been going on for years. One example is the Pakistani IT guy Imran Awan on Capital Hill. It's public knowledge that he was downloading terabytes of data off of capital hill networks. No mention of that FACT in his araignment. Matter of fact, they charged him with bank fraud. It gets better. The prosecution blocked access to evidence that would help their case. Evidence that suggests this guy and his team of foreign nationals have been doing this for 14 years. And the judge? An Obama appointee... Her and her husband both appointed by Obama as federal judges. Still more, the legal team is a law firm who has on its staff... The brother of Debbie Wasserman Schultz who is directly connected to the Imran Awan and implicated in the investigation.

Guess who the judge is for the Fusion GPS case? You got it. Same judge. And the prosecution, Mueller.. Directly implicated in the Uranium1 deal.

Did you catch the DNC trial for rigging the democratic primaries? After weeks of hearing arguments, the result was that the judge says yes, they are guilty but it's out of his jurisdiction. Case dismissed.

Not all judges are bad, only the ones that count.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: intrptr

It doesn't seem like the US military is any longer of Constitutional control.

This is a milestone in the decay of empire. Same thing happened at the end of WWII. The German and Japanese people were no longer informed about their military's posture and disposition, because they were losing...

This policy of secrecy continued from then on to the bitter end.

Meanwhile everyone gets entertained by gay rights, healthcare, election hacking, anything but. Not just the politicians, not just the Media, or the military, factories for war or banks... its all of them, all in collusion, together.

a reply to: Mike.Ockizard

Thanks for that 'eyes on' perspective. Thats what I come to the internet for.

Theres always someone that was there, goes hey, this is what really happened.

originally posted by: Oldtimer2
It's all about the money,thats has been evident thru ,the rich fuel the economy,if they take all their money out of the country would cause turmoil,face it whoever has the money makes the rules,nothing new

This is why we have Constitutional government. Our founding fathers knew the aristocracy want's tyranny over the citizen. So in our Constitutional we establish a rule of law. This way, we can avoid the chaos we see in third world dictatorships where members of the opposition party are arrested and executed.

What I'm amazed at is comments like yours where you seem to be saying it's okay to murder the opposition because money rules. Well, sorry, that's not the case here. There are many people who believe in the rule of law, justice, and no one has the freedom to murder other people.

Have you even read our Constitution? Do you even know what your rights are?

a reply to: Mike.Ockizard

There is a reason why we have a Judicial branch. You should study it sometime. It is a good thing you do not agree with the judge's ruling.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: Mike.Ockizard

There is a reason why we have a Judicial branch. You should study it sometime. It is a good thing you do not agree with the judge's ruling.

Sorry but that went right over my uneducated head. What has that got to do with the appearance of impropriety by the judicial branch that I personally observe on a regular basis?

a reply to: intrptr

And there's always a troll to say it ain't true. Go figger.

a reply to: intrptr

We have similar problems here.

The issue is such deployments are not exactly advertised, so what can the people do about it?

On the other side of things, again it isn't all that different in the UK. I imagine words such as national security, counter espionage and counter terrorism has had many a policy and laws passed here.

I want to say that foreign policy and counter terrorism doesn't count, but I can't because it does. However, so much is obscured from view and a lot of the consequences of laws passed don't become evident till later.

But you already know this, the wars over the last 20 years, all those deployments... Done for our benefit

Me? I just stand by human rights. We need more work done on rights, things like privacy and basic human rights.

But of course, it's for our own good. Mr foreigner doesn't exist until he's in my borders and I'm more than happy for gubment to spy on me and watch what I get off on if it stops that dirty bomb-making, child-raping terrorist.

Ooops I went off on one... Yes, some things are definitely not lawful or even moral for that matter. But I'm guessing we both know why such things are somewhat acceptable.

I could've just wrote guantanamo Bay huh?

originally posted by: Mike.Ockizard

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: Mike.Ockizard

There is a reason why we have a Judicial branch. You should study it sometime. It is a good thing you do not agree with the judge's ruling.

Sorry but that went right over my uneducated head. What has that got to do with the appearance of impropriety by the judicial branch that I personally observe on a regular basis?

Just because you do not agree with a judges ruling does not mean there is impropriety. Other than your bias partisan opinion just what exactly did the judge do that was "impropriety".

I don't agree with every judges ruling. Some rulings I can't stand. But there is precedence and many other pieces of information that go into a ruling.

What would you replace our judicial system with out curiosity? Are you for or against our Constitution?

originally posted by: Mike.Ockizard
a reply to: intrptr

And there's always a troll to say it ain't true. Go figger.

I see between the two, just like you.

originally posted by: RAY1990
But of course, it's for our own good. Mr foreigner doesn't exist until he's in my borders and I'm more than happy for gubment to spy on me and watch what I get off on if it stops that dirty bomb-making, child-raping terrorist.

I don't know about how many child-raping terrorists we have in this country that justifies the Patriot Act and taking away citizen's rights.

The US spends trillions of dollar on the military that did absolutely NOTHING to prevent 9/11. The US passes laws taking away privacy rights because it's a boondoggle to Booz Allen Hamilton. And what is to prevent Booz Allen Hamilton from selling state secrets to the highest bidder since they are a for-profit corporation.

I think the biggest threat for a dirty bomb coming into this country will be through a shipping container either at Port Elizabeth or Port Long Beach. We need to use the same inspection protocols Europeans use on every containing coming into Europe at the ports of origin. But the US will not do this because it will cost money. This country spends way too much money on useless boondoggles.

a reply to: RAY1990

I could've just wrote guantanamo Bay huh?

The pubic view is Guantanamo, the secret one is places like Abu Grab. Remember we got hints about programs to do with "Extraordinary Rendition" and CIA black torture sites?

Theres the facade, and the truth behind it.

Whatever appears on TV is directed at our sensibilities , our hi minded notions of justice and fair play...

lulz

a reply to: Revolution9

Or maybe trump tries to pass idiotic policies that no one in their right mind should support.

The key word is, "interpreted", ... just like the in unconstitutional ACA mandatea that had to be, "interpreted", as a tax, by a supreme court judge swing vote. Raged on to legislation affecting 1/3 of the economy and everybody in the country, which was voted on by Dems alone, and in do so subjugated the whole damn country to this healthcare nonsense. Checks and balances have been out the door for a long time. We just think we have checks and balances. Our whole system has been subverted by Elise and globalist.
Just one example of what the op is referring too.
reply to: RAY1990

a reply to: Mike.Ockizard

Did you catch the DNC trial for rigging the democratic primaries? After weeks of hearing arguments, the result was that the judge says yes, they are guilty but it's out of his jurisdiction. Case dismissed. 

I'm not a US citizen so forgive me for any confusion on my part, you say it was out of his jurisdiction. Couldn't the case be raised again in another state or on a national (federal) level?

I live in DC and sometimes go to the "high profile" hearings/trials. You don't see half of what's going on and it's party Nuetral

That I fully believe, though you do only mention democrats (I think) again apologies, I've purposefully been ignorant of US politics as of late.

I'll make no claim that the law is perfect, I'd never claim judges are free from corruption either... I do believe a level of elitism is held by those with such power, a lot of what I've seen personally has curdled my milk.

And sour milk makes not a tasty drink.

Question is though what can we do about it?

Drain the swamp and fill it with sludge? Better yet Arabian oil? How about Russian nuclear waste?

That's a serious question, I'd like to see a world where all people are held accountable for wrongdoings, a world where morality exists and a sense of justice prevails.

a reply to: intrptr

It has to start somewhere lol, it's not like people were showing up at the Bay for a holiday.

We can't even scratch that surface, such decisions and operations are delivered from behind fortified doors. By the time we get wind of such things the damage has been done and a dozen other black sites have probably popped up.

a reply to: Revolution9

So the premise of your OP is that you have no idea how the American political system works?

a reply to: RAY1990

An appeal was filed on Sept 8th

I pick on democrats because that's the flavor of the day so to speak. I was equally abhorred by the conduct of Bush Jr. I find it interesting that he made anti-trump headlines two days before the indictments. Subsequently it was revealed that Jeb Bush his brother was linked to the Uranium1 deal. These people are so transparent. They've gone unchallenged for so many years that they've gotten lazy, sloppy.

What can we do about it? Pull out the corruption by the weeds. Grass roots effort. And most importantly vote. Yes, I saw them bus people in to vote so I know about the corrupted votes but Trump says he's going to fix that. We'll see. For now, Trump is the medicine we need. Maybe next time we get someone like him with more progressive views on the environment and business regulation.

a reply to: dfnj2015

I only mentioned one ruling I disagreed with. My point was that the prior administration put people in power that by all appearances are serving their needs now.

I did not suggest we replace the judicial system, just pointing out how it appears to have been manipulated to serve the needs of the power brokers. Nothing new, but something that we need to keep an eye on.

I know of private citizens who do this. Most people don't know but anyone can intervene in a sense and submit evidence to the grand jury. Activism is good and bad. Can't have one without the other. Kinda like good and evil. A constant fight for balance.