Fox News Poll: Storms erode Trump's ratings

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: loam
The left seems hellbent on repeating their mistake from the last election. Keep believing 2020 looks good for you. So far you have no message beyond anti-trump and resist. You have no leader, but the one who just lost and seems determined to remain relevant.

Yup. The polls look good for the left. Just like last time.

Seeing as how Trump won on being "not Obama" or "not Hillary" that seems like a pretty viable platform to run on.

Except for the fact its Clinton doing the running. She will run in 2020, provided she is not in prison, and Democrats will find some new be issue to blame their loss on.

a reply to: olaru12

Yeah , Like Any REAL American Voter , and You Know Who You Are , would Vote for ANYONE other than Donald Trump in 2020 considering the Direction He is trying to Steer this Country into Despite the Opposition he is presently Facing from Both the the Left and the Right , and where a Future Middle Class Person could Finally get a Freakin' Break from their Weekly Paycheck to Paycheck Existence , and Actually Pay their Bills again Without having to Worry about them every Day sitting at their Kitchen Tables Wondering . The Options seem to Now be the Following...... Corker , McCain , Hillary , and some others Asshats who get on a Ballot , when Promising Everything , and Delivering Nothing . Let's Face it , President Trump is the Best Hope for Working Families in this Country , and last time I Checked , there are OVER 200 Million of them Waiting to Decide.........Choose Your Future Wisely People........

a reply to: Xtrozero

I don't think with only 28% of the vote it is considered a popular vote...lol

With the presidential election results now certified in all 50 states and Washington, D.C., Hillary Clinton won a total of 65,844,610 votes ― 48.2 percent ― compared with Trump’s 62,979,636 votes ― 46.1 percent ― according to David Wasserman of the nonpartisan Cook Political Report. Other candidates took 7,804,213 ballots, or about 5.7 percent of the popular vote.
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a reply to: windword

Showing that she did not in fact win a majority of the votes - she won a plurality. A plurality or majority of the votes would only matter if we had a national popular vote, which we dont.

a reply to: Xcathdra


Thanks Captain Obvious!

I'm just saying, the polls were not so "off" after all.

unless you are at a white supremacy rally or mar a lago, all you have to do is ask around to see that trumps approval ratings are awful. not too many sane people out there can continue to justify his actions or the job he is doing as POTUS.

originally posted by: windword

With the presidential election results now certified in all 50 states and Washington, D.C., Hillary Clinton won a total of 65,844,610 votes ― 48.2 percent ― compared with Trump’s 62,979,636 votes ― 46.1 percent ― according to David Wasserman of the nonpartisan Cook Political Report. Other candidates took 7,804,213 ballots, or about 5.7 percent of the popular vote.
www.huffingtonpost.com...

I'm not sure what you are saying here...she got 28% of the total voter pool and Trump got 27%. 44% didn't vote for either and it seems that means nothing to you. You are like a used car salesman who moves numbers around to fit their needs. At the end of the day both candidates had over 70% of the voting pool not want them.

a reply to: olaru12

"Cult 45".

I'm stealing that.

There is a truth about Trump (RICO Dedito - figure it out) - he simply is not a 'fit' into the POTUS position. Probably none of ATS readers would have been better than Trump at being POTUS...and unfortunately not all of us could be worse than Trump. And, probably all of us have some notion how complex the job is and have a enough of an idea of our own capabilities to stay away from that job. And, very few Congresspersons or senators would have been better either. But that doesn't make DT a bad guy..just not a 'fit'. So let him resign and enjoy his golf resorts and maybe he'll serve America better by entertaining us as a wacky elderly uncle..just not as a wacky, elderly POTUS wannabe.

originally posted by: havanaja
just not as a wacky, elderly POTUS wannabe.

Like Hillary Clinton?

a reply to: Xtrozero


You're right. Non votes mean nothing to me. Talk about skew!

The polls were 100% correct, where it failed was people guessing where in the margin of error the candidates would fall. Math wins every time.

originally posted by: windword

You're right. Non votes mean nothing to me. Talk about skew!

Lol so 3 people vote for Hillary and 2 for Trump and 200 million hate both and do not vote so HILLARY GOT THE POPULAR VOTE!!

I think the 44% that did not vote for either was the popular vote...

a reply to: Xtrozero

There is no such thing as a national popular vote.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Xtrozero

There is no such thing as a national popular vote.

Lol we all know that but windword has been saying the same thing for a year now. SHE WON THE POPULAR VOTE!!!

I think 1/2 of the liberals lay in bed each night with their hands clinched saying over and over to they fall asleep... she won the popular vote, she won the popular vote, she won the popular vote....

My point is you can't suggest a popular vote win if over 70% didn't vote for you in the first place..lol

a reply to: Xtrozero

Democrats is the party of the poor. There are more poor than rich. Of course Democrats win the popular vote every single time.

originally posted by: burnsE
a reply to: Xtrozero

Democrats is the party of the poor. There are more poor than rich. Of course Democrats win the popular vote every single time.

The party of the poor and the very rich that feel connected to the poor in this way as they eat their 300 dollar lunch patting each other on the back...

a reply to: Xtrozero


FACT Hillary Clinton got more votes than Donald Trump.
FACT Hillary Clinton was more "popular" than Donald Trump among people who voted in the presidential election.

pop·u·lar

ADJECTIVE
liked, admired, or enjoyed by many people or by a particular person or group:
"she was one of the most popular girls in the school" ·
synonyms: well liked · favored · sought-after · in demand · desired · wanted ·
(of cultural activities or products) intended for or suited to the taste, understanding, or means of the general public rather than specialists or intellectuals:
"the popular press"

a reply to: windword

FACT - The United States uses an electoral college system for electing our President and V. President.
FACT - There is no such thing as a national popular vote.
FACT - Clinton won the popular vote in every single state she carried.
FACT - Trump won the popular vote in every single state he carried.
FACT - Trump won more counties than clinton.
FACT - Trump won more states than Clinton.
FACT - Trump won more electoral college votes than Clinton.

FACT - Clinton lost
FACT - Trump won

denial
1 :refusal to satisfy a request or desire

the denial of privileges

2 a (1) :refusal to admit the truth or reality of something (such as a statement or charge)

their denial of the divine right of kings

(2) :assertion that an allegation is false

her denial that she was involved

b :refusal to acknowledge a person or a thing :disavowal

his denial of his youngest son

3 law :the opposing by the defendant of an allegation (see allegation 2) of the opposite party in a lawsuit

their denial of the plaintiff's allegations

4 :self-denial

… a man in denial about his receding hairline.—Playboy

5 logic :negation 1b
6 psychology :a defense mechanism in which confrontation with a personal problem or with reality is avoided by denying the existence of the problem or reality
— in denial
:refusing to admit the truth or reality of something unpleasant

a patient in denial about his health problems

a reply to: Xcathdra


Non of that negates the fact that Hillary Clinton received more actual votes, over 3 million more votes, from actual individuals who wanted her to be President, not Donald Trump.

Therefore, the polls were not off, as the OP suggests. Hillary Clinton won the "popular" vote.