Due to the effective nature of mind control...

...Our world is populated by ignorance. Unless we do not 'wake-up' there will never be a victory over them.

What does this have to do with Secret Societies? If there is a larger agenda you would like to bring to light, please do. Debate is encouraged and even expected here but you need to begin the debate.

What "mind control" are you referring to?
Who is the "controller?"
Why do they want us to be controlled?
Who is to gain?

Indeed, please expand on what you are trying to get through with.

Posted message fragments is a waste of bandwidth, and time consuming for members and admin to look at if we have to guess what you mean.

Unless we do not 'wake-up' there will never be a victory over them.

How do you propose we educate several billion people enough so that they 'wake-up'? I'd love to hear your thoughts, my only solution that I've come up with so far is to steal the mind control from them and make it not work anymore.

Without mind control, how do you get billions of people to 'slip-into-place' and follow the right path to the ultimate goal of NWO?

How do you hide the truth? - By making the truth something of a myth?


Mind control isn't science-fiction. Mind control is the desired state of mind and thought pattern that can be used for cooperation. Religion was the first device to be used, and it works even today. Media was the perfect way to get millions of people to believe that they could have some form of knowledge about the state of affairs.


Disinformation is mind control. Any form of diversion from the truth is also used.

How can we wake-up from the illusion that is overt control?

Well first of all we need to actually know about it in the first place. Then we need to be able to actually take certain things into consideration, rather than snubbing it off as superstitious mumbo jumbo. Modern Science was actually developed to incourage this sort of attitude towards these things. Also, mind control does not work if we know what it is and how to avoid it.

Rahzel!!

We are awake, that's why we're talking about this right now, how can you say we're still a victim of the illusion... The reason I'm typing this is to make sure everyone else is awake... You people that read this post, you read this because you want to know what mind control is, yet, You've already begun breaking the barrier of ssecrecy by visiting Above Top Secret. Now is the time to let the world know we're not afraid, and WE will reveal as much as we can about "The Conspiracy".

I know exactly what you are talking about, so do those that said they didn't. Don't let their ignorance to your concerns fool you. They know what you speak of. So do us all.

We are talking about the dark forces at work here. We are talking about those that decieve. The deciever of us all is the one and only Satan. His minions are at work in all places at all times. The control for your mind is an attempt to control your soul. This soul that we hold is not for theirs to take. This soul was given to us by God, not by "Them". That is the first awakening we need. We need to understand that God is with us and will always be with us, even when we join "Them".

God loves all, even Satan. For it is Satan who does God's dirty work. It is Satan who puts us all to the test. Like they say, "Hey, its a dirty job but someone has got to do it."

That is exactly what Satan does too. It is sad that he has been given this task. In the end, it is all null. For in the end Satan will be rewarded greatly for his cause. A cause which is to install fear, and hatred. A cause that brings the darkness to Light. That is a noble task. It is the noble ones who bring the Light into the dark corners of the world. It is the enlightened ones who bring the dark to God. Only those that can see that Light will See.


You See?

Yo Abraham, don't call yourself that if your going to defile God's name.

Satan was not given that task... HE CHOSE TO DISOBEY GOD!!! This was the first sin ever commmited. Read Isaiah from the Bible... Lucifer made 5 "I will" statements saying he would be better than God, he would, sit on God's throne, God would serve him, etc...

Get your theological history correct before you go preaching Abraham.

Tassadar

Mind control can only occur to those that want it to occur.

Balance your physical and spiritual world.
See everything through both side's eyes whilst you sit in the middle.

When you can do this you will understand that there really is nothing to fear other than yourself.

The trick is keeping control of yourself while you do this. Once you have done this, fear is totally lifted.

Mind Control only works on extremists.

Level things out and you will see the truth.

Originally posted by Tassadar
Yo Abraham, don't call yourself that if your going to defile God's name.

Satan was not given that task... HE CHOSE TO DISOBEY GOD!!! This was the first sin ever commmited. Read Isaiah from the Bible... Lucifer made 5 "I will" statements saying he would be better than God, he would, sit on God's throne, God would serve him, etc...

Get your theological history correct before you go preaching Abraham.

Tassadar

Well Tassadar, I have to disagree with you here. Lucifer did make those statements, but if you believe in the omnipotence of GOD than you have to assume GOD KNEW Lucifer was going to make the statements in the first place. Hence, Lucifer following GOD's orders, albeit in a way we cannot possibly phathom.

I heard a priest once say that GOD loves everthing and everyone and is working hard to bring everyone home and we all want to go home. Some just have a greater desire than others. Even Lucifer wants to go home, his path is just a lot longer than ours.

The Bible is not the word of God. Nor do I defile God. God has much faith in me, and me much faith in him/her.

You should second guess this so-called word of God you call the Bible. God needs no paper. He/she needs no preacher either. God is all powerful and God never had or will have to use some book to teach us. Remember God works in mysterious way. Satan may be bad on the outside but once again, Satan is the deciever of all men.

One day you will see that Satan and God are as one. For the is only One. That is God. God is One. One God. One, One. We are that One, Satan and all.



You See????

Alright observer, your right.

But Lucifer was kicked out of heaven and Satan's home soon will be the Lake of Fire after his final fight with God on Earth which he KNOWS he will loose.


Hey Abraham, God is not Satan, there is no bad form of God. Satan/Lucifer was the greatest *creation* ever created, notice the creation part. God created Lucifer who was God's archangel, the embodiment of perfect wisdom and beauty. Everything was created except for God. God alwatys has been there and always will be there.

I will give you props on your Bible statement though. Few people will accept the fact the Vatican has hidden most of the other writngs except for what they want us to hear (which is very little).

Originally posted by Tassadar
Alright observer, your right.

But Lucifer was kicked out of heaven and Satan's home soon will be the Lake of Fire after his final fight with God on Earth which he KNOWS he will loose.


Hey Abraham, God is not Satan, there is no bad form of God. Satan/Lucifer was the greatest *creation* ever created, notice the creation part. God created Lucifer who was God's archangel, the embodiment of perfect wisdom and beauty. Everything was created except for God. God alwatys has been there and always will be there.

I will give you props on your Bible statement though. Few people will accept the fact the Vatican has hidden most of the other writngs except for what they want us to hear (which is very little).

You said it yourself. God made all but himself. Even Satan. Therefore there is only one, One. That One being God. Satan and all. You See???

Tell me brother, do you ever read the philosopher Spinoza???


What about Kierkegaard???

[Edited on 1-7-2003 by Abraham Virtue]

No but God & creation are seperate. God is not Satan and never will be.

It's not like in the movies where everyone has an evil counterpart, God is the source of all god, he is perfect, he cannot lie, Gos is just... God is not Satan!!!

Unless we do not 'wake-up' there will never be a victory over them.

People have to want to wake up...otherwise, they'll just dismiss you as a nut....

Originally posted by Abraham Virtue
One day you will see that Satan and God are as one.

They are not one.
Man is more powerful than Satan.
He can never be more powerful than God.

I am not saying that God is Satan. God is One. We are all that One, Satan and all.


You See???

[Edited on 1-7-2003 by Abraham Virtue]

Right however,

Satan is more powerful than man,
Satan was the greatest thing ever created.
Angels and demons are superior to man.
God is more powerful than Satan.
It is only through God that we can overcome angels and demons.

And yes Man can never be more powerful than God.

Dude, there is no one. are you like Hindu or something? That's the only religion I know of that believes in assimilation into God.

Satan can never be more powerful than man.

Why?

Bacause you can see him. If you can see him he is weak.
Because the only weapon he can use against you is yourself.