Honolulu bans smokers in cars when children are present

It seemed like this one was inevitable. The dangers of second hand smoke are well documented and as the supporters of the bill say its not like the child in the car has a choice in the matter. It may have a secondary effect of reducing the litter of cigarette butts as well. The ban would also apply to vaping.

I would expect other cities to start enacting this ban and perhaps you will see statewide measures as well.

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And the selfish smokers are outraged.

a reply to: FredT

The road to hell is paved with good intentions from dumb asses.

Im surprised people can still afford it to be honest. We were in NY last April and I was floored by the cost of a pack. It was well over $10. and my understanding is that they jacked it up even more

They can't be cheap in Hawaii

Already here in the uk 👍

originally posted by: Denoli
Already here in the uk 👍

What about pubs? Just curious cause here in California is a no no

a reply to: FredT

Wow... even vaping!

Bill 70, introduced by Council members Brandon Elefante and Ron Menor, would apply not just to tobacco cigarettes, but to electronic smoking devices as well.

Yes, in America you are free to kill your baby, but you better not smoke around it or you are breaking the law. Makes complete sense to me.

originally posted by: FredT

originally posted by: Denoli
Already here in the uk 👍

What about pubs? Just curious cause here in California is a no no

Is there a problem with parents smoking in front of their kids in pubs?

a reply to: FredT

B.C. is the same, I think most provinces have implemented simular, no indoor smoking in public spaces for the most part.
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originally posted by: Metallicus
Yes, in America you are free to kill your baby, but you better not smoke around it or you are breaking the law. Makes complete sense to me.

Right? If you make enough money and work for a nice enough company you can just leave your kid in the hot car in the middle of the summer, and walk away scott free! Minus the guilty conscious til the day you die.

Anyways that happened here and it's been a sore spot for me.

I smoke a pack a day but I don't smoke with my little boo in the car.

-Alee

originally posted by: seasonal
Is there a problem with parents smoking in front of their kids in pubs?

Perhaps, but this query was unrelated to children presence OR absence in a pub environment

originally posted by: Metallicus
Yes, in America you are free to kill your baby, but you better not smoke around it or you are breaking the law. Makes complete sense to me.

Actually I agree with you. I have to to pass tests and peruse on going education to maintain my RN on a semi annual basis. Yet for a parent there is not even a mandatory class or anything. You could totally cover the whole non smoking thing there.

a reply to: FredT

Sorry, I have had a little bit of drinky and am in a smart ass mood. Please ignore my obvious prodding.

originally posted by: Liquesence

It really depends IMHO. I have actually have no problem with kids at bars depending on the environment and the conduct of the parents.

If mom or dad is getting sloppy drunk and the kids are basically fending for themselves then no.
If the pub in question is say the Ixtapa Senior Frog's and Daddy is getting a body shot then no.

Aside from that seeing properly moderated alcohol consumption from parents would be a positive experience IMHO.

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: FredT

Sorry, I have had a little bit of drinky and am in a smart ass mood. Please ignore my obvious prodding.

No worries, and cheers. I'm having a bit of Scotch myself!!!!

I thought this was pretty common practice already in a lot of places. Shocked it's taking this long if that is not the case. Tobacco should be banned outright, or, at the very least, the tobacco companies should foot the healthcare burden.

a reply to: FredT

It really depends IMHO. I have actually have no problem with kids at bars depending on the environment and the conduct of the parents.

If mom or dad is getting sloppy drunk and the kids are basically fending for themselves then no.

When I think "pub" I think "bar." For clarification, not simply a public place of consumption, or even a "sports bar" (which is more a restaurant with a bar) per se (depending).

I don't have a problem if mom and dad go into a sports bar (technically a pub), bring the kids, to have dinner, and while doing so have a drink or two.

I guess my point about "bringing kids into pubs" was that if someone is going into a pub (a bar), the connotation and intention to me is simply going to drink, versus "we're going out to eat", in which case bringing kids would be improper.

If that makes sense.

a reply to: hombero

Banning that kind of thing NEVER works, education would be $$ better spent..it is effective.
I think the product is already very heavily taxed(Canada anyway), paid by the consumer, not sure what the tobacco companies contribute.
I am a non smoker BTW.