Malaysia to resume MH370 search

The Malaysian government announced a "no find, no fee" contract with the seabed exploration firm Ocean Infinity, to resume the search for MH370. The search will take place in previously unsearched areas of the Indian Ocean, using refined data. They will receive technical assistance from Canberra.

No timetable was given for when the search will start. A two year search by China and Australia ended in January. The ATSB believes that the chances of finding the aircraft are better than ever at this point.

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I'm kinda glad, this flight going missing is one helluva mystery, one I'd like to see solved but not as much as the families of those inboard will...

a reply to: Zaphod58

That were some awesome ATS days when that thing disappeared. And now a treasure hunt!
Hm my bet will be they get a lot of plagiarism, to claim the price, given the location. The number of bits and pieces.
I say it disintegrated in a spontaneous combustion of some sort in flight and suddenly. But that we will learn in about...2 years?

"No find, no fee"? Thats weird.

Sort of , we're not paying you to look for it, unless you find it. Or...

We pretty much know where it was, but didn't want to find it previously.

If they are resuming the search 'for free' then its reasonably sure they know where it might be, now.

Except, they've always had the previous data that didn't result in discovery:

Debris drift patterns, the captains (deleted) simulator log, for instance.

Why wouldn't they want to find it till now?

a reply to: intrptr

Why wouldn't they want to find it till now?

Face.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk

a reply to: intrptr

Why wouldn't they want to find it till now?

Face.

Imo, (back when) the longer the search dragged out, the more 'face' they lost.

a reply to: Zaphod58

i'm still not exactly sure how they did not find at least the engines of the missing aircraft but maybe they were and they didn't tell anyone.

they must have radar data close to where it went down, it's not like it was in a mountain range it was open sea with many military bases with radar coverage .

or maybe someone blew them out of the air and that's why they lost its track and why it's all on the bottom of the ocean. kinda goes along with the no find, no fee because it is gone

a reply to: intrptr

I am convinced the Malaysians have known what happened to MH370 since very early on in the investigation, possibly as soon as just a couple days after the disappearance. However, the implications of acknowledging the root cause were completely outside the boundaries of the acceptable in their culture. I lived in Malaysia for several years working and am very familiar with their customs. It is my personal belief that this new development is nothing more than window dressing. The Malaysians are confident now that the terms of the contract/agreement cannot be met and that they will pay nothing, but they can't be seen as just giving up. This whole exercise is entirely predictable.

If the world community were to launch ten more searches of the Indian Ocean, the Malaysians will come along a year or so after all those are complete and launch their own...just to be seen as the last people searching. In the end, nothing more tangible than what has already been found will be found, and the secret of the real cause will remain forever obscured. The cause won't be found in the wreckage, it was found long ago on the ground, the search is only to sate the families of those lost.

I still question why people like the chap who was a Oil rig worker no doubt trained in observation was so badly treated to the point he was dismissed from his position?, all for saying he believed he witnessed the plane in a totally different location to the official story.

I firmly believe if you look hard enough you can find a rabbit hole but there are certainly many questions that are thrown up about this fiasco, the Pilots simulator data, eye witness reports showing the plane in a totally different location, stalling tactics almost to the point that they made sure the beacons where out of battery whilst searching in what is obviously the wrong place.

I certainly do not get "excited" about this type of thing, I think a reminder that people are missing and loved ones have no idea how or where they died is terrible...


RA

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

very interesting would you mind expanding on their culture a bit?

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

...the search is only to sate the families of those lost.

Then why not let sleeping dogs lie? Seems to me, rekindling hopes of finding closure if they can't find it, would be worse than leaving it 'lie'.

I get the whole ancestor connection thing in Asian culture, emotions run higher around death and burial. Thats why I wouldn't rekindle the search, until those emotions had settled somewhat.

Maybe they want to make it look like they didn't know all along with this new search announcement. Especially to those grieving relatives, who are less likely to sue now.

a reply to: slider1982

... the Pilots simulator data... stalling tactics almost to the point that they made sure the beacons where out of battery whilst searching in what is obviously the wrong place.

Pilot's (according to FBI) deleted simulator data. Adding, debris associated with the aircraft was found floating and washed up on beaches, but seemingly downplayed. Now though they are going to start searching based on debris drifting analysis?

The pilots (wiped) flight simulator data is interesting enough. They already had this but also seemingly ignored it?

flightglobal

a reply to: penroc3

I could probably write volumes on the subject, but to put it nicely, suffice to say "image" trumps truth and reality.

How much of the debris has been found and where roughly?. Wouldn't it make it a lot easier if they start where some of the debris was found and follow the current. Dont they generally travel in a circular motion?

a reply to: Soloprotocol

Nah...ya think???

That would make WAY too much sense!!

Note: I've been suggesting the same for a couple years now, but it seems people have 10,000 reasons why they insist on searching everywhere BUT there.

I remember when they had those satellite images for us normal people to look through at home, I spent hours on that thing, for days, just hoping and hoping that I or someone would see SOMETHING.

I just want the families to have closure, at the very least.

I'm glad they aren't giving up.

-Alee

a reply to: Soloprotocol

They did an analysis shortly after the first debris was found, and it wasn't that easy. There were several areas that it may have passed through where multiple currents met and mixed. They could get general areas where it may have come from, but not exact areas.

originally posted by: Soloprotocol
How much of the debris has been found and where roughly?. Wouldn't it make it a lot easier if they start where some of the debris was found and follow the current. Dont they generally travel in a circular motion?

I believe they found a few bits and pieces off East Africa / Madagascar.
presumably the currents came from Indian ocean near South Australia where, IIRC, they estimate the plane went down.

I saw a documentary and they mentioned 'military radar', which I suspect is a euphemism for 'secret US intel stuff they don't want us to know about'.

No find, No fee. Somebody has to be paying for the ships, fuel, crew, equipment and insurances etc.

The current a few thousand feet below will be going in a different direction to the surface. Ships/planes dont sink to the bottom and land in the sea bed in same place they went down at the surface, sometimes finishing up a mile or 2 away.

What counts as a find? Just the fuselage and 50% of the bodies? Or one or both of the flight recorders? An engine?

a reply to: ElGoobero

No, they mean military radar. Not everything has to do with the US. There are many countries in the area that have military radars.