One way to get rid of Corbyn

Being a middle aged Londoner, I have over the many years seen the HUGE change in London and the UK. At times it has not been easy. The trouble all started with Edward Heath. He was a strong supporter of the European Communities amongst other things, which included YOUNG BOYS. Wilson and Callaghan followed and by the time of Thatcher the UK was slowly sleepwalking into a European Federation. She then famously told Europe where she stands and we all applauded. More drift after she left, deeper and deeper the labour party took us, to the point we revolted. But for labour this is not the end, enter the Tories. What to do with Corbyn , who's party if they gain power WILL reverse BREXIT. So what better way to head off this threat .... Remove his constituency www.standard.co.uk...

a reply to: LondonMan

Not that I'm saying it's a bad idea, the Labour party aren't any better than the Tories, but the priority should be on removing that absolute disgrace of a Prime Minister first

originally posted by: Zcustosmorum
a reply to: LondonMan

Not that I'm saying it's a bad idea, the Labour party aren't any better than the Tories, but the priority should be on removing that absolute disgrace of a Prime Minister first

They are all as bad as each other I agree, but nothing will save us from a venezeula scenario if corbyn gets in .. what did he say about that country again.

‘It is a cause for celebration — the achievements of Venezuela, in jobs, in housing, in health, in education, but above all its role in the whole world as a completely different place. We recognise [this].’

I think both parties and the banksters are both equally to blame. Labour signed the UK up to Lima Declaration of 1975, which was a promise to give the developing world 30% of our manufacturing (First Hong Hong, then Taiwan, Japan and finally China). That forced the UK to become a "service industry" economy.

It was the banksters who wanted to "skim off pension fund surpluses" followed by Gordon Brown's "fairer distribution of wealth" that completely shredded private pension schemes. Then the next big craze was to buy out manufacturing companies in the North of England, sell off the high-tech equipment to China and the land to property developers, while giving the pension schemes to themselves as bonuses.

Then we had a recession where the only way out was to encourage consumer borrowing. This was done a couple of times. In 1994, it led to a property crash in London when everyone panicked about getting onto the property ladder. They did this furiously, and by then inflation was rising rapidly so they had to increase interest rates. That led to another crash. Next attempt at recovering the economy was to encourage consumer borrowing, and
flog off whatever we could to foreign investors. Then we went through another scheme were we would let the Chinese buy up all our scrap metal, and they would then resell it to us as new electrical appliances. It seemed a virtuous cycle, except we were paying more for new appliances than we were being paid for the scrap metal. Now we have a massive national debt that is impossible to pay off.

Then there was Labour's "garden grabbing" housing policies as well as HMO'sm where family homes were converted into multi-bed rooms for low income workers. Many streets and suburbs are now off limits due to crime and safety problems..

a reply to: LondonMan
By then, the party will have made sure he gets selected to stand for another seat.
That outcome is suggested in the article.

a reply to: LondonMan

if you are going to cite a quotation - it MUST be dated so we can evaluate the context in which it was uttered

originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: LondonMan
By then, the party will have made sure he gets selected to stand for another seat.
That outcome is suggested in the article.

take your pic, because some will unwillingly give up their seat lol vote.labour.org.uk...

a reply to: LondonMan
To quote from your source-article;

Mr Corbyn is likely to lay claim to another new seat, carved from chunks of Mr Corbyn’s seat and that of Diane Abbott, to be called Finsbury Park and Stoke Newington.
That in turn leaves powerful shadow home secretary Ms Abbott battling against neighbouring Labour MP Meg Hillier for another new seat, Hackney Central, which straddles parts of their existing seats.
A source commented drily: “There will only be one winner in that one-sided selection contest. Meg needs a new lifeboat.”

Of course ordinary M.P.'s will be pushed aside by the big leaders, even in "the people's party".

a reply to: LondonMan

So you are quoting a tabloid, let's straighten out some fact's.

Corbyn is a Eurosceptic, it caused a near revolt when he refused to take a stronger stance on staying in the EU despite it being the predominant desire of both his own MP's and also the Conservative's MP's.

At NO time has the Labour PARTY ever said that they would reverse Bexit - they have said repeatedly that they shall respect the will of the people, that was actually the desire of the LIB DEM's, the GREEN's, the SNP and almost the entire welsh assembly.

Corbyn does however want to get us a FAIR deal as we leave the European Union and to maintain vital economic ties so as to prevent a disastrous crash out of Europe if the Tory's prat's lead us down a no deal path.

My personal opinion is that our country carried Europe after WW2, we never pressed as we most certainly should have for Germany to pay reparations and we in fact should not have to pay that bunch a penny but what I feel and the economic facts of reality are two different matters, we need a fair deal - one that favours fair trade with Europe and does not mean we have to default to WTO rules which are actually bloody awful.


Let's give you a few fact's of history as well, it was the Tory's that started the promotion of migration from the commonwealth, notably India (though we were always a way stop for people on the way to the US and many of them settled here, Italian's in London for example) - no in fact it was the Royal Family, you know those best paid benefit's claimant's in the world that are really mostly German.

Well go back to after the second world war, in particular go to the partition of India.

The Last Viceroy (Representative of the Emperor/Empress of India) was one Louise (French name) Battenberg - a German name - en.wikipedia.org... Of course his family had changed there name to the Windsors and he was called Mountbatten as another alternative to there real name - bit like the Rothschild's whom are really Bauer's eh.

During this partition Old Louise watched and suggested maybe innocently that they should come and live with us - back over here in England - it was probably intended for the upper echelon's of Indian and Pakistani society not the common Indian's but it opened the flood gate's and to be fair after the war we needed working age men to help to rebuild our nation - coming from London you of all people should know this.

But this created a useful problem for the Tory's that they exploited to the best (Worst) of there ability's, you see there enemy the Labour party was based around Solidarity and it's power base was mainly in the working class neighbourhood's so what is that old saying - AH yes DIVIDE AND CONQUER, KEEP DIVIDED AND KEEP CONQUERED, it worked very well, were else would these people live but in the working class neighbourhood's, alongside people with whom they had very little solidarity and nothing in common.

Labour hateful of the right wing's of the NAZI's did not fall into the other trap the Tory's had lain but tried perhaps wrongly to own this problem and ended up doing the Tory's dirty work for them.

Now you and I both no that people are people, there skin colour, there eye's, there hair do not matter one bit but there culture is another matter entirely as that ended up causing vast problems', old working class neighbourhood's were taken over as well since not wanting to live in a neighbourhood were they no longer feel at home many British working class family's then moved out of them, in there disgust and misguided opinion that Labour was solely to blame they then also began to shift there political opinion's to the right - so far so good the Tory's loved this.

We can not fix the past but we can fix the future and I have to tell you that currently only Labour can do that job, oh I would rather it was the SNP but an SNP with there basic national policy's extended to the whole British isles but there forefathers abandoned labour when they saw it drifting every more right.

The Tory's will break this country in half, they are riding on a tide of Xenophobia but guess what as part of arranging post Brexit trade deal's with India Theresa May agreed to allow even more Indian Graduates into our country - while impoverishing our own kid's eh! but then what do you expect from a bunch of snide, conniving self serving vested interests whom are NOT interested in your well being but only in there very personal self - own well being.


Why do I believe we need Corbyn, well some of his opinion's frankly stink to high heaven but he is necessary because he shall not be a dictator but a prime minister and we have had nothing but dictators' since Thatcher started her reign, only and this is actually odd but a fact, only one prime minister in that period was any good and that was actually the far more moderate John Major whom despite being a Conservative was definitely NOT a TORY boy.

We need a swing to the left to reset our political balance and get our party's back were they belong.

And we need corbyn to at least try to start to undo some of the Damage right wing IDEOLOGY is causing our own people and our own nation.

Oh the rich love it now but what happens to there tree house when the Tory's finish cutting through the trunk to use if for there palatial mansions' fire wood.

In fact what the Tory's are doing is one of the main factor's behind civilization Collapse, increased stratification of society between the few have's and the vast many have not's is the only and inevitable outcome of there self serving misguided and greedy policy's, it only one factor but a very big one.
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And in what way will we become like Venezuela? Ridiculous statement! As a country and culture you could hardly get more different! You can hardly claim that competition is working for people when it comes to basic utilities or most transport. That's all that will be privatised, gradually. We desperately need social housing as most people under 35 are never going to be in a position to purchase a house. Don't worry, the borders will be coming down pretty fast now global warming is kicking in, as demand from climate refugees, including those from wars, floods and desertification, will cause a huge panic among Northern European countries. As a former Londoner, my dislike of London now is more to do with all the very high modern office buildings than the variety of people. I wonder what you think of Philip Hammond's claim that the economy was not being productive because they had got more people with disabilities into work and this slowed things down as they couldn't work as fast. Does that sound like the sort of person you want running the country or a man of integrity and sound mind? The Tories have treated people like # and made most poorer. I think they've had their chance.