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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
I never said to give up oil completely.
Use oil for things that matter. Use it wisely and more efficiently.
originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: BeefNoMeat
Approx 25000 years ago the CO2 ramped up tremendously . This brought about a mini ice age that covered North America down to Dallas, Tx. in 2 feet of ice.In just a very short period of time.Lets hope it isnt natural or Houston , we got a problem again .
Wasnt much manufacturing or coal powered electricity producers 25000 years ago . Or do you believe there were ?
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
We also use oil because it's still the most efficient energy producer for the effort.
Comparatively speaking, the effort and energy it takes to collect and convert most other forms into usable energy still makes them less efficient than oil.
originally posted by: Phage
Re: The OP.
So we know the source of a bit larger than normal spike in the trend. That could be useful in refining the feedback effects in the models.
www.esrl.noaa.gov...
Not true, actually, the rate of change is quite variable (because there are lots of variables).
yet that chart shows no lag in C02 increase, just a really, really steady increase every year.
The US has made progress. The EU has made progress. China, the largest emitter, seems to have begun to make progress. India, the lowest producer, not so much. The trend continues upward because global production of CO2 is up.
So in my uneducated opinion, if we are doing anything at all, it ain't working.
Once they are manufactured, they continue to produce power without producing emissions.
And If I start to talk about alternative energies, I'm always reminded of how inefficient they are, and how they still use the same fossil fuels to be manufactured
Do you see an upside to believing in hurricanes? In understanding them? How about in understanding Solar storms? Is it a waste to study them, a waste to take measures to mitigate their impacts?
, so other than feeling good about being "in the know", I don't see an upside to being a true believer in AGW.
originally posted by: muzzleflash
I stand by my Georgia Guidestones thread from a year ago.
Seems to be a lot lit off the past years.