NFL Commissioner Goodell Now Agrees with President Trump. PLAYERS MUST STAND.

Forced, or coerced, "patriotism" is the essence of anti-Americanism.

a reply to: carewemust

Jesus, those of us who don't give a rats ass about anthems and flags have been saying this all along:

“We live in a country that can feel very divided. Sports, and especially the NFL, brings people together and lets them set aside those divisions, at least for a few hours,”

All he did was diminish his product in order to make some political statements. I don't know what they are putting in the water nowadays....but common sense business states that you don't bring up things that are controversial, and you find quiet exits when someone else brings them up. Nowadays we are seeing business managers/owners just dive head first into controversy.

Anyone who has invested in the NFL (owners, etc) have grievance over any economic impact due to this bad management decision.

The only reason any of this is happening is to further promote the agenda of federalized police departments. I know most everyone is too enmeshed in the back and forth to see it right now, but that has been the endgame from the beginning of the mass manipulation of the issue.

I really enjoy how people ignore the facts and just want to spout off about the things that fit their narrative. The title of this thread in itself should be changed due to the recent events.
Do a little looking around. Goodell has clarified what he meant.
Mr. Trump was incorrect and gave everyone false information. (Again)

Fake news.

What Goodell actually wrote: "Like many of our fans, we believe that everyone should stand for the National Anthem"

Believe and should do not equal "must."

originally posted by: DJW001


Now they will be protesting a racist President.

There you ago trying to deflect - you do know Obama isn't president any longer, right?

originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
Fake news.

What Goodell actually wrote: "Like many of our fans, we believe that everyone should stand for the National Anthem"

Believe and should do not equal "must."

In my business, and any business i've ever worked in, it sure does.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Well it sure didn't take long for NFL to change their tune.

The people that watch football don't care about a bunch of black lives matter "I'm an oppressed millionaire" BS spouted off by a bunch of stereotypical dumb jocks.

They want to see them run with the ball. Injuries, sacks and touchdowns. Nobody cares what these idiots think, ever listen to one of them talk about anything? How many genius astrophysicists and philosophers come out of the NFL? I mean, it's the only organization where every single player went to college, and every player is about as dumb as a box of rocks.

originally posted by: Cancerwarrior
...and every player is about as dumb as a box of rocks.

Yeah, keep believing that.

originally posted by: Nik0laTesla
I wish I could protest at a workplace. I don't have millions of dollars and my boss would fire me.

Must be nice.

So are you against the NFL doing so because they have contracts and the ability to get away with it while you can't, or are you against it on principal?

originally posted by: jjkenobi
Goes back to rule #1 all humans should follow. Don't be a jerk deuchebag. Armed service people and their families are serving this country with their lives. They are being disrespected. Sorry. That's how they feel. Doesn't matter if Goodell Or Obama or someone else tells you it's not. Find another way to protest whatever the hot cause of the day is. And don't be a jerk.

Most, but not all military folks don't see this as an affront, protest is what they fought for.

On top of that, the whole armed service respect thing has nothing to do with the game, it's a recruiting stunt the MIC is paying the NFL to promote. No one should stand in solidarity with that.

originally posted by: carewemust
Appreciating stock value does not equate to additional income for WORKING PEOPLE.

NEED TAX CUTS!

Now...back on topic?

Tax cuts don't equate to additional income for working people either. The tax cuts currently being floated, would equate to less than 10 cents a day for the bottom half of families.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

The NFL wasn't promoting the controversy though. A handful of players were doing it quietly. It only became a "large" protest when Trump got involved and started trying to dictate to the NFL how their business works. Rather than the original controversy, most players and even owners have gone along with it since as a giant FU to the government.

But really, this all circles back around to the NFL in the first place because they took money to equate their game with the political concepts of patriotism and supporting the troops.

www.legion.org...

The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free.

But the Football players are ""Disrespecting"" the flag... ... ...

a reply to: carewemust

I thought there was a law that said the government can not influence businesses into taking courses of action.

Though I'm not sure this is going to play out well for the NFL. Probably not well. And if it goes to court they will lose.

There is already SCotUS case law on Jehovahs Witnesses not having to stand for the flag/anthem/pledge of allegiance.

More wasting of money.

a reply to: sooth

Imagaine they do federalize police forces, so what??

People are not robots..and I until we create robot police forces and armies, a human being is still going to have to make the decision to follow whatever “evil “ order is given.. and those human beings are our own fathers , sons, aunts and mothers.


If trump told the army to invade Atlanta and kill everyone. The army refuses to do it..

It’s a straw man...

It is a threat no one would be willing to do.

All that aside it is the local state police who are the biggest offenders of corruption and “tax collecting” (where they invent random money generating policing policies) ...


The fbi has never given me a 275$ for a rolling stop , at midnight on an empty road..

The federal government doesn’t speed up red light cameras to generate more profit..

Oversight is usually a great thing.. absolute power corrupts absolutely. So this little state and county PD’s just get crazy sometimes..

BTW

en.wikipedia.org...

West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette

However, the Court did not address the effect the compelled salutation and recital ruling had upon their particular religious beliefs but instead ruled that the state did not have the power to compel speech in that manner for anyone.

Trump can not compel people stand for the flag.

a reply to: grey580

There is, this has all been settled in court. It's not going to come into play here though, because courts move slowly and by the time anyone with standing files this lawsuit and gets it through the courts, it's going to have been settled one way or another already.

So basically, there's a law, but if you're acting in bad faith you can skirt it and there won't be any repercussions.

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
www.legion.org...

The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free.

But the Football players are ""Disrespecting"" the flag... ... ...

There's actually a bit more nuance to this. It's referring to a literal flag, the image of the flag isn't considered a flag and therefore isn't subject to the code. So a bandana that is printed to look like a flag can be worn, but an actual flag tied as a bandana cannot.

a reply to: Aazadan

So the "Patriot Protest" with people wearing flags draped around their shoulders?