Tom DeLonge Anouncement: October 11th 9:00 AM PST/12:00 PM EST

a reply to: Blackfinger

I do not see the parallels, yet, can you explain your idea a bit more?

Jesus/Neo in a shirt has outdone himself!
I have come to like his somewhat trashy videos.
This guy means well, cares enough to actually look and goes the extra mile to find information.

Have a look, interesting details about the Nimitz incident, the alloys and thoughts about Skinwalker ranch!
Also: Why is there a discrepancy in what the DIA and the DoD say?

UPDATE: Read the comments to the YT video, too. John Lear is not as credible (anymore) as he himself thinks. Other people with military and flight experience come to very different conclusions (video IS for real).

And here's a treat for the debunk-lovers and TDL-haters:

Grant Cameron interviews John Lear, according to whom the video is all crap.
But then, to my surprise, John Lear goes on to claim that the US does have UFOs, and all is real, they just don't want to tell us.

Audio quality is not great, I did not understand all that was said.

Anybody out there who knows what John Lear is all about?
This is the son of the jet dude, right? Why would he be more credible than anybody else?
His opinions about the video are interesting. All the rest is just more unproven claims and opinions. Enough of that we have, I find.

a reply to: SacredLore

john Lear is an ex CIA pilot with every FAA airline licence that exists. flown 160 different types of aircraft according to his bio. so he does have some weight to his opinion regarding the video.

that being said John Lear has said some bat shift crazy things to such a degree that he has had some sort of a falling out with ats staff/owners and no longer posts here. john Lear when all is considered is uncredible and him being so does nothing for or against your position regarding this whole debacle

a reply to: SacredLore

not impressed with his speculative video.

also, he's claiming elizondo said the "ufo" was buzzing a US carrier battle group for two weeks and the US govt showed no concern and that that is the reason he left his job. because he was frustrated the govt didn't care.

I would think if the govt didn't care it's because they already knew it was not aliens and they were aware of what it was. there is no way the govt wouldn't care if a alien spaceship or even a foreign nations version of a "ufo" was buzzing an aircraft carrier for two weeks.

elizondo not making that logical connection leads me to believe he is a little unhinged, not at all astute and maybe a bit crazy. or a liar or playing his part in a govt cointelpro. take your pick.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

Also: Elizando says he left his CIA job last year because he was frustrated that the government wasn't doing enough to investigate UFO's. However, the AATIP deal ended in 2012 (officially, supposedly). It takes him over 5 years to throw his hissy fit about them not doing enough, and quitting?

I'm ready for the condescending lectures coming to me from folks in this thread now, but we STILL have not seen the chain of custody for this video. We STILL don't have confirmation from the DOD or the Pentagon that they released these videos, the TTS UFO videos. We have no real proof that these videos are official.

I definitely now am pretty convinced that this is government cointelpro of some variety.

Tom Delonge's generals all disappeared and in their place are life long CIA guys. Nothing fishy about that, right?

patents.justia.com...

He files patents too.

Fluid propulsion system relating to maximising laminar flow and a modular, interchangeable component for an ocean going superstructure.

Must like boats.....

a reply to: KansasGirl

hey how come you get stars n I dont

they probably don't like my disposition. either way you definitely deserve the stars for your logical and consistently well thought out stance on this subject. I've been rooting for ya.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

Thanks for the background!

a reply to: Jukiodone

i wouldnt get too excited he came up with a screw shroud to minimize slippage. not the first guy to patent anything like that nor the last.

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: SacredLore

not impressed with his speculative video.

also, he's claiming elizondo said the "ufo" was buzzing a US carrier battle group for two weeks and the US govt showed no concern and that that is the reason he left his job. because he was frustrated the govt didn't care.

I would think if the govt didn't care it's because they already knew it was not aliens and they were aware of what it was. there is no way the govt wouldn't care if a alien spaceship or even a foreign nations version of a "ufo" was buzzing an aircraft carrier for two weeks.

elizondo not making that logical connection leads me to believe he is a little unhinged, not at all astute and maybe a bit crazy. or a liar or playing his part in a govt cointelpro. take your pick.

exactly, look at at the news when we intercept a Bear off Alaska or when MiG's fly near an aircraft carrier, it is international national news very quickly.

IF the Nimitz story is true then like you said obviously a known element

a reply to: BASSPLYR

Still don't know what to make of it all, but trying to grasp the bigger picture here from multiple angles:

With the growing tensions between US and North Korea, wouldn't it be convenient to blame spying technology on alien Tic Tacs? New Cold War?

I'm not trying to ridicule this, just challenge it.

Loving the critical views here, pro and contra!

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: Jukiodone

i wouldnt get too excited he came up with a screw shroud to minimize slippage. not the first guy to patent anything like that nor the last.

Hence the comment- "must like boats".

The timing of the patents, any subsequent business successes or failures and how this fits with the known TTSA timeline would be the conspiracy theory angle.

a reply to: Jukiodone

actually you have a very good point. a very good angle to look at regarding elizandos motives. my apologies for coming off like a dick especially to you juki.

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: KansasGirl

hey how come you get stars n I dont

they probably don't like my disposition. either way you definitely deserve the stars for your logical and consistently well thought out stance on this subject. I've been rooting for ya.

Aw thanks BASSPLYR. I'm not sure why I got stars on that one- I usually don't. And I know for sure they don't like my disposition. Those stars must be a mistake.

I look forward to your contributions in these threads! Do you think this is a CIA psy-op flavored drill? And of so, to what end? Is it an attempted distraction from political stuff? Or laying the groundwork for some future shenanigans?

a reply to: SacredLore

What john lear says, ive already said the same on ats on day 1 of the video release

What Is Going On In Outer Space? After 4 Nation's Launch Rockets Within Days, What Are They REALLY Up To?

Something strange is going on, especially if we know that within 5 days, from December 22 to December 26, 2017, four superpower Nations; US, Russia, Japan and China have carried out rocket/missile launches, all carrying satellites. These launches at almost the same time are no coincidence and although it said that all these satellites are communication and weather satellites, we may wonder whether that is actually the case or that the real purpose of the payload is meant to monitor “Something” in space.

a reply to: thepixelpusher

thats not actually out of the ordinary. I wouldn't look too hard into it.

We talked about a possible SkinWalker connection here.

Robert Bigelow, Skinwalkers, And The Day The Earth Stands Still

The best takedown of all the controlled-script "managing magic" grab-your-money effort that To the Stars Academy is and what is the role of Tom DeLonge in this, can be heard from this December Spaced Out Radio interview (26 Dec 2017) with UFO researcher Grant Cameron and experiencer/radio-host Lorien Fenton. Grant has been studying research longer than Tom has been alive, he's been through the William Moore, Linda Moulton Howe, 70s Holloman UFO-landing film, Steven Greer, Richard Doty, and the rest of the CIA-what-not psyop disinformation campaigns. I'd trust anything he says 1000000x over whatever Tom "I've read all the UFO books" says.

Spaced Out Radio Dec 25/2017 - Government UFO disclosure (Tom DeLonge) with Grant Cameron and Lorien Fenton
This originally aired in November 2017, before the December , Pentagon Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification, Luis Elizondo -event



The main points:

- find a big ego guy easy to control
- manage the story all the time tightly, only use a couple of sanitized and controlled journalists
- do not allow or answer any questions that steer away from the narrative you want to spin
- mix truth with falsehoods
- every time the story seems get anywhere near anything classified, make the whole thing ridiculous (i.e. debunk it with the embedded falsehoods, or destroy people's credibility)
- This same approach that has been used for the past 40 years by whatever agencies which control this
- There are pieces of truth hidden in there somewhere, good luck trying to separate the wheat from the chaff
- The aim is NOT to disclose, but to keep your heads spinning and divert your attention to something interesting and shiny, with all the promises, while the real phenomena is something totally different, somewhere totally elsewhere (think Richard Doty working on Paul Bennewitz, read 'Project Beta').

Draw your own conclusions.