Tom DeLonge Anouncement: October 11th 9:00 AM PST/12:00 PM EST

Rogan mentioned Tom D on his latest podcast with Mick West. West mentioned that T Delonge has a deal worked out with the company he's working with such that he gets a guaranteed payout of $100K.

a reply to: Phage

For what it's worth, seems I read Jacque Valee thinks Gellar was the real deal. I have my doubts, but IMO Valees opinion can't be dismissed out of hand

originally posted by: IsaacKoi

The wave of negativity is becoming pretty overwhelming on social media and within ufology due to his constant hype and posting of nonsense.

And thus, with feet firmly up on desk, cigar and a 12-yr scotch in-hand, a long, warm grin spreads across the jowls of Tom's real handlers...

"War in DC, indeed!" Bwahahahahaaaaa.... Good one!

Keep it up Tom - you're doing just fine!

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: Phage

I doubt you'd easily dismiss the rest of DeLonge's team.

Why does his team let him believe in and post hoaxes? For that matter, why do they even let him open his mouth? Honest questions. What do you think?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Arbitrageur

Found it on the Web Archive.

Puthoff was impressed by Uri Geller?

Either Geller could not or would not perform under close scrutiny, or when he did seem to get results, there was little credible examination. “Targ and Puthoff, from the way I have encountered them by day in their laboratory, seem to emerge as bumbling idiots rather than as respected, accomplished physicists,” Hyman wrote. He believed Geller’s work had all the classic hallmarks of a trained magician: befriend, distract, and dazzle.

goo.gl...

Being impressed with Geller wouldn't have been such a shocker if Puthoff was behaving more like a critically thinking scientist, trying to critically evaluate Geller's feats, and less like a charlatan's mark, accepting them without adequate skeptical investigation.

originally posted by: vlawde
a reply to: Phage

For what it's worth, seems I read Jacque Valee thinks Gellar was the real deal. I have my doubts, but IMO Valees opinion can't be dismissed out of hand

Sure it can, is Vallee a magician? No, so what does he know about performing magic?

In the article linked above the evaluator brought with him a university professor who also happened to be an amateur magician.

Lawrence invited two other scientists to accompany him: Ray Hyman, an amateur magician and university psychologist, and Robert Van de Castle, a professor of sleep studies who believed in psychic premonitions, including his own...

Geller began his repertoire by demonstrating his ability to mind-read numbers. The Israeli performer dramatically covered his eyes with his hand and had Lawrence write down a number on a piece of paper. Hyman, sitting to the side, later recalled that he could clearly see that Geller was peeking, watching the motion of Lawrence’s hand.

If Geller really had abilities, why would he need to peek to perform his mind-reading abilities? It takes a magician to spot a magician's tricks, something Randi is fond of saying and he has also debunked Geller. When Geller's magic tricks were taken away, he couldn't do anything, on this TV show:

a reply to: KansasGirl

On the Rogan podcast he stops himself from saying things, with the comment that he's speaking for more than himself now. Maybe you feel he doesn't do that enough?

a reply to: Phage
a reply to: Arbitrageur
a reply to: KansasGirl

Have you looked at the rest of the teams background? Not out of bounds to question the presenters of this big of a story. I think anything DeLonge reveals will have worldwide scrutiny far deeper than a Uri Geller Tonight Show appearance. I think it'd be hard to fool people with cheap tricks. Not to mention a stock investor lawsuit if this is revealed as a fake. DeLonge has a lot on the line here, but seems confident in all his interviews!? Clearly Uri Geller was not confident on the Tonight Show when challenged. The crack team on ATS will survey any photo or video with deep analysis I'm sure.

a reply to: thepixelpusher

Very worthwile watch!

originally posted by: thepixelpusher

Long story short, what is this guy getting at? I honestly can't tell. He was all over the place.

a reply to: Rumrunner

Tom De Longe is being played by the intelligence community of the United States as Bill Moore was before him in the 1980s and then Stephen Greer in the early 2000s.

As Grant summarized on his website:

From history I gathered together 14 men who I refer to as magicians. They were CIA and their job over the last 70 years was to get the story out via five men that I refer to as the Messiahs. These Messiahs included researchers such as Bill Moore, Steven Greer, and Tom Delonge, who each saw themselves as the person picked to bring disclosure to the American public.

My conclusion is there is no plan to fully disclose, no matter how loud the demands inside the UFO community are. The plan is to continue to drop stories till people are so acclimatized that when full disclosure does happen by those in power, it will surprise no one.

Source

We are now ten days out from Christmas. By early next week Washington, DC will start to become a ghost town. Employees at media companies are already mentally checked out for the year. I don't see any major world changing announcements being made until after the new year. No one would chance blowing up the holiday consumer purchase rush and/or the stock market at this late date. Barring a surprise landing on the White House lawn, if nothing happens today (or at least before Monday) then it ain't happening in 2017.

a reply to: Rumrunner

his whole thing is that he is talking about other people who have been 'selected' for disclosure. On of those men had a big part in driving Benowitz over the edge of sanity.

he says there are 6 teams that the powers that be have given information to slowly drip feed into the public consensus. he said he was selected for a role in this grand plan, he even was part of a documentary that the military showed a film of a ufo landing at a military base(Holloman) and was going to give them said film but later said they couldn't have it. but all the info from that is highly suspect, the aliens were described to him and he put the reenactment in his film and the aliens were dead ringers for some statue in a museum so he was written off, or at least the story was.

a reply to: mirageman

Thank you...and penroc3

originally posted by: Rumrunner

originally posted by: thepixelpusher

Long story short, what is this guy getting at? I honestly can't tell. He was all over the place.

Grant says the govt. is likely using DeLonge, like others before, in a managed way to dripfeed their story to the public. Grant ends up by saying he was told the DeLonge reveals will be real and dramatic, but the govt. will always keep some of the evidence secret. Grant gives you a historical perspective and seems to reveal a nice overview of what we're seeing unfold.

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: Rumrunner

Tom De Longe is being played by the intelligence community of the United States as Bill Moore was before him in the 1980s and then Stephen Greer in the early 2000s.

As Grant summarized on his website:

From history I gathered together 14 men who I refer to as magicians. They were CIA and their job over the last 70 years was to get the story out via five men that I refer to as the Messiahs. These Messiahs included researchers such as Bill Moore, Steven Greer, and Tom Delonge, who each saw themselves as the person picked to bring disclosure to the American public.

My conclusion is there is no plan to fully disclose, no matter how loud the demands inside the UFO community are. The plan is to continue to drop stories till people are so acclimatized that when full disclosure does happen by those in power, it will surprise no one.

Source

In the video Grant Cameron says he was told that DeLonge's reveals will be real and dramatic..."this will be big!" Grant DOES NOT state DeLonge is a fake or disinformation. Only that he is being managed to dripfeed the govt.'s story like others before. Grant at the end of the interview states what DeLonge will release will be real and dramatic. See Grant's remarks starting at 31m 18sec

a reply to: thepixelpusher

So Grant Cameron is a definitive authority now? That seems to be what you are implying.

a reply to: KansasGirl

he always comes off as a has-been to me. desperate for any relevance.

He openly speaks of government collusion and a inside knowledge of what appears to be a disinformation campaign i belive he had his hand in the Aviary fiasco.

not to mention he seems knee deep in this TDL mess

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: KansasGirl

On the Rogan podcast he stops himself from saying things, with the comment that he's speaking for more than himself now. Maybe you feel he doesn't do that enough?

No. I am wondering why his team, which is made up of men who have had exceptional careers and positions within parts of the intelligence community, and military industrial complex, allows him to promote stories and photos and videos which are hoaxes.

Doesn't that seem at least a bit curious to you?

Have you done any research into the involvement of the intelligence community in the UFO subject over the years? If you haven't, you probably should. Their involvement is extensive. There are some fabulously informative and thought-provoking threads on the subject right here on ATS over the years. Check out threads on the subject authored by our own Mirageman and The GUT, and others.

a reply to: KansasGirl

No. I am wondering why his team, which is made up of men who have had exceptional careers and positions within parts of the intelligence community, and military industrial complex, allows him to promote stories and photos and videos which are hoaxes.

Perhaps because they are part of a proposed media empire and TDL is the boss , Tom has big plans and nests need feathering.

I wouldn't rule out another Psyop but I think money is probably the root of this evil.