Tom DeLonge Anouncement: October 11th 9:00 AM PST/12:00 PM EST

a reply to: vlawde

I am absolutely convinced that the paranormal exists, I just see it more in the domain of religion and belief, especially when it comes to the afterlife.
Or, science one day will be capable to bring the paranormal into the normal range, i.e. make it measurable, repeatable, etc.
That would be extra cool. I think it was a Russian who claimed to have measured a slight difference in the weight of a person's body at death. That would have meant that the soul has some weight that can be measured on departure. Unfortunately this was debunked if I am not mistaken. Just to show how difficult it is to bring these things into the realm of science. Not saying it is impossible in every case, but really hard. I think our sciences are too materialistic at the moment thus they have no handle on the paranormal. Personally I believe as long as science limits its hunt for "consciousness" to physical manifestations in the brain, they won't get far. This is something else.

Yeah, I do believe the soul weight thing was debunked.

The limits that science has in regards to the paranormal are (IMO) the same as science's limits with UFO's...at least so far!

originally posted by: vlawde
The limits that science has in regards to the paranormal are (IMO) the same as science's limits with UFO's...at least so far!

Yes, that is true! Maybe that is why I hope that there is a significant physical side with technology to this phenomenon which would give our sciences at least an entry point.

If the world were designed according to my wishes it would look a lot like Babylon 5. A nice serving of unexplainable mysticism (the Vorlon species, the Minbaris' religion), but cool spaceships that would get me to the other side of the planet in minutes

Lou Elizondo: "When you say 'something big is coming', what does that mean? Well, it can mean a whole buncha things. From my perspective, um, my goal has always been being able to get the right information to the right people in the right places. That's really what it is about for me. And informing those individuals so decisions can be made so we can really take a look at this issue from a holistic--a collective perspective. And then have that information get to a point where now the government's doing its job and informing people."

Just more baseless noise. How is a retired 'insider' going to force the people authorized to release the information to the public to actually release it? Are they going to ask nicely? Twist someone's arm? Blackmail them?

He and his pals have never been in possession of any substantive information from square one. TTSA is strictly a business arrangement with the goal of making money by creating media buzz. The so-called UFO video from the Nimitz jet was an anomaly generated within the jet's IR processor. See my earlier posts from January 2018 for some perspectives on that--as well as why Lou thinks the 'truth' exists in the dark corners of The Pentagon. It doesn't.

There will be naysayers out there claiming I'm some sort of disinformation mole, but I'm not. The truth about all of this will eventually reach the light of day, and the TTSA scam will be revealed. Those that have invested in it will be the winners because they're not stealing anyone's money; people that want to believe are happily sending in cash. It's pathetic that these charlatans are going to retire quite wealthy as the result of taking advantage of well-meaning people.

a reply to: TheTruthRocks

Lou says a few things more in that interview :-)

But granted, no irrefutable proof has been produced so far.
If TTSA has not had a definite influence on public perception by 2025 that UFOs are a real phenomenon then you will have been right. Sorry, but from what I have collected over time (mainly from Grant Cameron) it takes that much patience.

Great article by Luis Elizondo!

Everything in Science Is Paranormal Until It Isn’t.

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But isn’t everything in science paranormal until we eventually perceive it as normal?
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When I was in college studying microbiology, I remember my professor telling the class the famous story of when Antoni van Leeuwenhoek first discovered protozoa.

As the story goes, he looked through a microscope and screamed, “Little beasties, little beasties!” and ran out of the room. For him and many during that time, the discovery of microorganisms was a paranormal moment. But these were living organisms, just below the threshold of our ability to observe and perceive.
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Historically, the U.S. has been a global powerhouse in part due to its embrace — albeit often reluctant — of the strange or bizarre.

During the early days of the Manhattan Project, many scientists and lawmakers cringed at the idea of spending tax dollars on tiny, invisible packages of matter called “atoms” that would one day be used to end the war. After all, if you can’t even see an atom, how do we know they even exist?
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In the case of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), the stigma of anything that might be considered paranormal has a chilling effect on our nation’s ability to address a potential national security risk. It also severely limits the advancement of human knowledge. Advancements in technology have led to credible, reliable evidence that UFOs exist — far beyond simple anecdotes of untrained observer reports in prior decades. Slowly but surely, the subject is moving from the outer edges of the paranormal categorization as highly trained observers come forward with analysis of advanced aerospace technology.
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TTSA Twitter


We are very encouraged by the recent decision of the DIA & DoD to release AATIPs "List of Studies.” We believe transparency into the nuances of these whitepapers on aerospace futures is very beneficial for the continued collaboration & progress towards understanding UAPs.

Before now, certain members of our team were prohibited from discussing specifics due to non-disclosure agreements with the U.S. Government.

Now that they have made the decision to release the list, we look forward to the ability to engage in a public discussion about our unique knowledge of these studies in a manner that is informative but consistent with Government security practices.


Great! Let's have the public discussion then.
"High-Frequency Gravitational Wave Communications" by Dr. Robert Baker sounds like a good place to start :-)

a reply to: SacredLore

Sacred Lore,
Thank you for keeping the ember burning.

a reply to: SeaYote

Hope dies last. Or never

a reply to: SacredLore

What I can't work out is how they have all these scientific papers. A fair chunk written by Eric Davis of EarthTech. EarthTech is owned by Puthoff (also a director at TTSA and benefactor of a $35k payment for analysis of the meta-materials - nice little earner for him).

Davis is a guy who says that the United States had a UFO crash retrieval program until 1989 in an interview with TTSA's official media spokesperson George Knapp.

So has Davis had access to these crashed UFOs to enable him to write these papers? If not what are these papers really about? Are they just what he thinks might be out there.

Bear in mind as well that John Alexander employed Davis at NIDS in the 90s and 2000s. Alexander has always maintained that the United States had no interest in studying UFOs. Not only that Elizondo was still searching for UFOs in 2009-2012.

This constant output of contradictory statements is somewhat indicative of a deception operation going on. But who is the target and what is the motive?

a reply to: mirageman

If had to take a guess: the Chinese.

Remember, the Chinese economy has doubled about every 7 years since they opened up the economy to the capitalist world. Also, they went from 4 million strong — boots on the ground — under Mao to public confessing that their military endeavors were air/space and cyber focused, this year.

While Russia is sending long range nuke bombers to Venezuela and losing supersonic fighters in the same month, the Chinese almost grew a potato on the moon.

If, as Carrion suggest, the US deceived the public to run recon interference against the Ruskies in the Cold War, it stands to reason that the last 30 years was running interference against the People’s Republic of China.

In the period of just under two generations, the Chinese went from a strong-arm dictator with nuclear weapons and no food to a people who have the world’s soon-to-be largest economy and are space-faring. Not mention all the IP and tech they stolen that would be akin to recovering and back-engineering some unknown craft (looking at you Roswell).

That’s my take anyways to your question.

a reply to: mirageman

Indeed, it is really hard to make sense of all of this. Especially when considering the (non-)development over time.

Deceiving the Chinese as BeefNoMeat suggests would be a reasonable explanation.

Let me offer the "believer's" viewpoint:

Today I heard an interview with Prof. Diana Pasulka, Professor of Religious Studies, on Coast to Coast radio.
She has just published the book American Cosmic: Ufos, Religion, Technology and it seems that she witnessed the retrieval of pieces of material from a crash site.
It is a fascinating interview and she seems very credible. That would be another strong hint that there is an external and mostly hidden influence on Earth.

The statements of many credible people, like Prof. Pasulka, together with the ideas presented in the Sekret Machines book series, would then lead to this scenario:

Two external forces are trying to influence mankind. One side are insectoid beings that operate in a hivemind. They have been trying to establish totalitarian societies in communist and fascist style (Russia, China, Nazi). The other side seems to be at odds with the insectoids and can appear as light beings (angels, fairies). They seem to have some sort of cooperation with the USA and other western governments.

The problem is that both of these races cannot be trusted (those fairies can be quite malicious). The people who wound up with the responsibiity of dealing with the phenomenon decided that it would be best to work secretly and under the radar until mankind had the technology to stand up against both sides and (re-)claim our freedom. Think of the cocks in a cockfight suddenly refusing to fight each other and turning against their owners.

I am not saying that I believe all of this or that any proof has been presented. But, as wild as it may sound, it would be an explanation for the contradictory handling of the subject and the desolate state of our planet. And it is what TTSA is implying with the Sekret Machines books.
Looks like the cocks are getting ready to make an attempt at breaking free :-)

So the deception may not be for the Chinese or the Russians. Maybe the deception is for "the Others" and was/is meant to gain us time...

a reply to: SacredLore

Pasulka appears to have been primed by others to write this. Why is she suddenly on the UFO scene writing a book about technology, UFOs and religion? She's an academic professor in Catholicism. Next thing we know she's being groomed by various personalities. It is not hard to work out who they are. Although she gives them pseudonyms so I respect their privacy and you'll have to work them out for yourself.

Back in 2017 she started promoting this book and was very relaxed and engaging in interviews. Now I don't get why you would start promoting a book that isn't going to be released for 15 months. But this all seemed to be her "synchronicity" working just before the TTSA launch and the New York Times, Washington Post and Politico broke the AATIP story. (Not careful planning of course)

Then there was this huge 12 month gap and still no book appeared. Why? We can only guess that someone wanted the content changed. But she started promoting it again late summer 2018. If you want to hear how odd she gets then listen to this October 2018 interview with Linda Moulton Howe. Linda is a strange one anyway. But she effectively reveals who some of Diana's contacts are in that interview.

As for being driven to the desert and suddenly finding metallic bits. She even said she was suspicious herself of finding strange material. Who do you think tested it? I would say it's easy to be put off in the search for your answer there.

Now her Twitter account is shutdown just as her book has been released. A very strange twist in this ever growing narrative and cast of characters. At least she sounded more coherent on C2C. Perhaps because George Knapp is just a much better journalist and effective questioner than Linda (he is by miles). But also because as we know he is closely linked to all these people that inhabit the SW corner of the USA and make money off or cause mischief in ufology.

Personally I see no evidence for alien beings interfering with humankind. Just a bunch of people in America with some very weird (even insane) ideas that they are trying to promote via shows like Ancient Aliens, UFOtainers like Linda Moulton Howe and even books like Diana's.

a reply to: mirageman

From one interesting interview to another;
tinyurl.com...



Oh and another;
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a reply to: SacredLore

The problem, of course, is that this narrative has the 'evil aliens' (which we might as well call spirits or fairies based on the available evidence) in cahoots with the insidious Chinese and the Russian warmongers.

The good fairies are with the good 'ole USA et al. Although not quite to be trusted, they are obviously more benign than the bugs.

So this is an American story. An american tale of fairies. I grew up during the Cold War and I still cringe to think that I could listen to Sting singing Russians with a straight face... "I hope.the Russians love their children too"..

Really?

a reply to: pigsy2400

Hahaha... The Esalen Institute, yet again...

a reply to: beetee

Well Pasulka isnt the ufo Virgin she's made out herself to be....given her long standing friendship with Kripal...

The same guy who cowrote a book with whitley streiber....

Something don't smell right..

a reply to: pigsy2400

I agree. And the appeal to young Americans theme seems strong with this one again.

As I've pointed out elsewhere. The promotional graphics make Princess Diana out to be a youthful looking 30 something....


The marketing illusion and the reality

But when you dig slightly deeper it's obvious she's perhaps 15 years older than that appearance....


Above : the marketing


Above : The more likely reality...

Now I am aware that this appears to be disrespecting a University Professor because she's getting older. But that's really not my point. The issue here is that there seems to be a well funded, powerful group of people in America spreading totally unsubstantiated crap and aiming it at a young, gullible, impressionable demographic.

Sadly America is the home to many stupid cults. They seem to want to start another one.

a reply to: mirageman

Maybe not a new one, just the repackaging of an old one that now has a twitter handle.

Funny how New Age philosophy has leaked into Ufology over the years, even more so when you look at all the main players and thier connections with Eselan etc, especially those that were brought together by Einhorn too.

The rise of the whole "consciousness" thing in ufology in the last few years I would attributes to these guys.

Kripal is an odd guy too....claims of Christianity having homoerotic begginings etc..!!! But then back in the 70s they all dropped acid and had mass group orgies at Eselan....and also put "The Council of the 9" on the board of directors of the organisation?!?

It's also hinted (I'm not reading his books) that Kripal believes in a "cargo cult" idea in relation to ET and religious beliefs, now where have we heard that before....

However....all is not well;
www.esaleaks.org...

Lavenda has some interesting comments;
tinyurl.com...

a reply to: pigsy2400

All very very weird.