Vegas was a single shooter and here is the simple explanation.

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: 8675309jenny

originally posted by: KansasGirl

I don't think it would take two shooters at all to do all that damage. One could certainly.

I just think there were at least two because there are several videos where you can hear two weapons with different rates of fire happening simultaneously. And no, not echo.

Guess you didn't even read the OP lol.

Oh, I read your entire OP. You explained it exactly like others squawking about "only one shooter" have explained it, with your incredibly confident and smug sermon. We know- you've got ohysics on your side....and you understand it!

You ARE smart!!!! I can tell, because you explained the acoustics of ballistics.

And your science holds true, I'm not debating that.

Your science is true AND there was more than one shooter.

I have watched the videos, and am a veteran, you got any proof, because I don't see it. I am from Missouri, so you have to show me.

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: 8675309jenny

originally posted by: KansasGirl

I don't think it would take two shooters at all to do all that damage. One could certainly.

I just think there were at least two because there are several videos where you can hear two weapons with different rates of fire happening simultaneously. And no, not echo.

Guess you didn't even read the OP lol.

Oh, I read your entire OP. You explained it exactly like others squawking about "only one shooter" have explained it, with your incredibly confident and smug sermon. We know- you've got ohysics on your side....and you understand it!

You ARE smart!!!! I can tell, because you explained the acoustics of ballistics.

And your science holds true, I'm not debating that.

Your science is true AND there was more than one shooter.

I have watched the videos, and am a veteran, you got any proof, because I don't see it. I am from Missouri, so you have to show me.

I am also a veteran, Bubba.

You definitely sound like you're from Missouri.

Of course I don't have proof. And neither do you.

Do you know the difference between proof and evidence?

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: 8675309jenny

originally posted by: KansasGirl

I don't think it would take two shooters at all to do all that damage. One could certainly.

I just think there were at least two because there are several videos where you can hear two weapons with different rates of fire happening simultaneously. And no, not echo.

Guess you didn't even read the OP lol.

Oh, I read your entire OP. You explained it exactly like others squawking about "only one shooter" have explained it, with your incredibly confident and smug sermon. We know- you've got ohysics on your side....and you understand it!

You ARE smart!!!! I can tell, because you explained the acoustics of ballistics.

And your science holds true, I'm not debating that.

Your science is true AND there was more than one shooter.

This emotional outburst goes to show that you are emotionally attached to this position. You literally just said that you agree with the explanation and the physics or sound but there just has to be another shooter. Taking your statement on face value that you agree with the physics of sound and bullets, What then is left to convince you that there is another weapon involved?

Bubba: the video in this thread, linked below, offers some EVIDENCE in support of the more-than-one-shooter theory. About halfway through the video is where he points out how you can hear a controlled burst fire happening at the same time as another volley of fire that had already started.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: BubbaJoe
From all reports, single shooter, only two broken windows. My thoughts to the families affected, to those of you that want to make this a conspiracy, you are feces. A single nutjob committed this atrocity, deal with it you sorry ass douche weasels.

Wow. What's your objection to it possibly being more than one shooter?

Do you not think that the families of the victims might want to know the truth of what went down?

If anything, if what went down is something other than what we are being told- and there is enough that doesn't add up to at least raise some questions- then I think we owe it to the victims to find out what really happened.

What in the hell is so offensive about that?

I also think we owe it to the families of the victims not to propagate false stories and potential lies either just because you "believe" there were two when you were not even there.

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: BubbaJoe
From all reports, single shooter, only two broken windows. My thoughts to the families affected, to those of you that want to make this a conspiracy, you are feces. A single nutjob committed this atrocity, deal with it you sorry ass douche weasels.

Wow. What's your objection to it possibly being more than one shooter?

Do you not think that the families of the victims might want to know the truth of what went down?

If anything, if what went down is something other than what we are being told- and there is enough that doesn't add up to at least raise some questions- then I think we owe it to the victims to find out what really happened.

What in the hell is so offensive about that?

I also think we owe it to the families of the victims not to propagate false stories and potential lies either just because you "believe" there were two when you were not even there.

You "believe" there was one. Were you there?

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: BubbaJoe
From all reports, single shooter, only two broken windows. My thoughts to the families affected, to those of you that want to make this a conspiracy, you are feces. A single nutjob committed this atrocity, deal with it you sorry ass douche weasels.

Wow. What's your objection to it possibly being more than one shooter?

Do you not think that the families of the victims might want to know the truth of what went down?

If anything, if what went down is something other than what we are being told- and there is enough that doesn't add up to at least raise some questions- then I think we owe it to the victims to find out what really happened.

What in the hell is so offensive about that?

Maybe I am offended because all of you anti-government nutjobs spread rumors against the country I served for 7 years. Maybe I am offended because some of you asshats deny that Sandy Hook happened, some of y'all are just idiots. Maybe that is why I am offended.

originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: Hazardous1408

why not just have 2 or 3 more patsies and have a true “multiple shooter false flag”?

KISS.

What you are suggesting just complicates things unnecessarily.

P

Keeping people confused is a trick of the devil.
2. 1 Peter 5:8 Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.

a reply to: KansasGirl

I believe there was one shooter because I only hear one weapon. All of the attention in the videos is focused on the Mandalay Bay. All of the police are focused on the Mandalay Bay. There is an excellent video taken from the top of the stands at the venue. That person stands there the entire time and films. I won't post it here but if you look on YouTube it's pretty easy to find just look up "Video taken at the top of the stands" it is the clearest Portrayal of the events from start to finish.

originally posted by: toysforadults

originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: Hazardous1408

why not just have 2 or 3 more patsies and have a true “multiple shooter false flag”?

KISS.

What you are suggesting just complicates things unnecessarily.

P

Keeping people confused is a trick of the devil.
2. 1 Peter 5:8 Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.

The devil? What does a 13th century fairytale have to do with this?

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: BubbaJoe
From all reports, single shooter, only two broken windows. My thoughts to the families affected, to those of you that want to make this a conspiracy, you are feces. A single nutjob committed this atrocity, deal with it you sorry ass douche weasels.

Wow. What's your objection to it possibly being more than one shooter?

Do you not think that the families of the victims might want to know the truth of what went down?

If anything, if what went down is something other than what we are being told- and there is enough that doesn't add up to at least raise some questions- then I think we owe it to the victims to find out what really happened.

What in the hell is so offensive about that?

I also think we owe it to the families of the victims not to propagate false stories and potential lies either just because you "believe" there were two when you were not even there.

You "believe" there was one. Were you there?

I saw one in the window during the firing as you can see the muzzle flash light up the window. I posted pis of that in a previous thread. But, for you, I'll repost them here. They were taken from one of the existing videos of the event.

(The red arrow indicates the corner room window that was broken out)
Before a firing "spree" begins...

During the firing spree at that same location...


After the firing spree ends...


Video Source (screenshots start at 1:20)

a reply to: Krakatoa

Some subscribe to the Alex Jones philosophy of never buying facts, but they will believe what he tells them.

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: 8675309jenny

originally posted by: KansasGirl

I don't think it would take two shooters at all to do all that damage. One could certainly.

I just think there were at least two because there are several videos where you can hear two weapons with different rates of fire happening simultaneously. And no, not echo.

Guess you didn't even read the OP lol.

Oh, I read your entire OP. You explained it exactly like others squawking about "only one shooter" have explained it, with your incredibly confident and smug sermon. We know- you've got ohysics on your side....and you understand it!

You ARE smart!!!! I can tell, because you explained the acoustics of ballistics.

And your science holds true, I'm not debating that.

Your science is true AND there was more than one shooter.

I have watched the videos, and am a veteran, you got any proof, because I don't see it. I am from Missouri, so you have to show me.

I am also a veteran, Bubba.

You definitely sound like you're from Missouri.

Of course I don't have proof. And neither do you.

Do you know the difference between proof and evidence?

Proof and evidence, yeah I know the difference, lettered 4 years in HS in debate. Your evidence is crap, you know that, why the strong position, you got a dog in this fight?

originally posted by: BubbaJoe
Maybe I am offended because all of you anti-government nutjobs spread rumors against the country I served for 7 years. Maybe I am offended because some of you asshats deny that Sandy Hook happened, some of y'all are just idiots. Maybe that is why I am offended.

The government is a rampaging psychopathic serial mass murderer.

That people doubt everything the hypnotube tells them ought to be natural.

Not that it doesnt get carried away sometimes... oh wait just like the government.

originally posted by: TobyFlenderson
a reply to: 8675309jenny

One video I watched had a guy who said he and his friends were hiding behind an obstacle in the concert area and bullets were flying over his head nearly vertical.

Wow, the guy could see flying bullets?

With this information in mind, please go back and watch some of the videos going around and tell me what you think.

How would you like some visual evidence the shots, not all, came from another location.

originally posted by: KansasGirl

You definitely sound like you're from Missouri.

Wow, what's with the shiitty attitude ?

originally posted by: KansasGirl

Oh, I read your entire OP. You explained it exactly like others squawking about "only one shooter" have explained it, with your incredibly confident and smug sermon. We know- you've got physics on your side....and you understand it!

You ARE smart!!!! I can tell, because you explained the acoustics of ballistics.

And your science holds true, I'm not debating that.

Your science is true AND there was more than one shooter.

So your own words admit the evidence supports a single shooter, and that you have don't have anything to counter with, yet you end your post with an absolute: "there WAS more than one shooter"


Sounds more like fantasy and faith on your part.

Interestingly, even though I've only been here 4 years, lots of members here said in 2013 this site was going downhill. And now I'm noticing it too. More and more members who are just here spout nonsense rather than apply critical thought.

Are you aware the FULL scanner feeds are available online? They were broadcasting LIVE on non-encrypted comms during the response, clearing the hotels, the breach, everything. And as soon as dude on the 32nd floor was taken out, there was no more shooting.


But lets entertain your fantasy for just a moment here and pretend there WAS two shooters. Give us a plausible motive for concealing this fact. Why would the authorities not disclose this? Numerous multi-person attacks over the years were openly reported to media.

Boston bombing,
San Bernandino,
London Bridge,
Charlie Hebdo
Bataclan

even the Nice truck attack they discussed ongoing investigations and arrests of connected individuals.

Just a few days ago the New York City attemped attackers (3) were named: www.usatoday.com...

So far in Vegas many investigators have stated they believe he had help in planning this, so no one seems to be trying to make it a lonewolf thing at all. But there is zero evidence from live videos and audio of a second shooter.

So again,where is ANY evidence for your b e l i e f ?

a reply to: All Seeing Eye

Ive tried counting empty casings from any and all photos released so far, maybe 200 or so.

Everyone seems to agree shooter was a several feet at least back from window and say that's why no muzzle flash, that being case the empties didn't go out the window.

Shooting AR's for years and mine eject casing 8' to 12' feet directly to right and 1' to 2' feet forward.

Where's the piles of empty casings one would expect for better than thousand rounds supposedly fired from the room?

Seems to be an anomaly right now.

a reply to: Woodcarver

I heard 2 distinct firearms being fired from opposite direction. One further away (the hotel) and another much closer to the crowd, across the street from the crowd as they were exiting the grounds.

Source video was of a festival patron recording as they made their way from the opening shots from the area of attack to the parking lot further away from the hotel.