America Under Siege: Antifa - November 4th, It Begins

a reply to: ketsuko

Contrary to their orders,from above "OBEY YOUR PARTY OR WE WILL KENNEDY YOU" can we get THOSE people FIRST as quickly as possible ?
WORLD SECURITY mission as in?

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

I think it may be more the case that in any large city you can find a few hundred people that would join in any chance to get away with violence and vandalism with a mask on and get away with it.

Behind it I suspect are some very seriously dangerous people pulling the strings. Those are the people who need dealt with. The I'll protest anything crowd will move on to the next fad I think.

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Abysha


I'm sick of their lies. they will never to term limits.

Another fine example that would solve so much. Who doesn't want this?! Yet... will it happen in our lifetimes?

LOL,

That would mean they would have to steal faster.... and what would prevent the same stooges from floating between Governor, Senator, Congressman, etc.

It would just cause some musical chairs is all.

I know I am a bit negative but these political animals have one goal, to stay in power, and they will use every trick in the book to do it.

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Abysha


I'm sick of their lies. they will never to term limits.

Another fine example that would solve so much. Who doesn't want this?! Yet... will it happen in our lifetimes?

Not in mine, young lady.

Maybe yours.


The ironic thing is that Antifa probably has more in common with congress than they realize.

Wow, uptick in "ANTIFA" fear-mongering from the right in the last two or three days.

Makes one wonder what's up ...

a reply to: Blaine91555

You may be right, but I'm sure there are a few "regulars" that travel with the team cross-country. Paid protesters' only cause is making money, not the political agenda that they display on the surface.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

An empty building.

And who got shot or who's businesses got vandalized ?

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

An empty building.

And who got shot or who's businesses got vandalized ?

Just curious... if Antifa went in with guns and occupied a government building (empty), what sort of threads would you be furiously typing away at right now?

a reply to: Abysha

Religion is used as a convenient excuse against anything the left doesn't like.

Oh, look ... this piece of legislation is being introduced by someone we know is religious; therefore, it must be prompted by his faith. That means he's mixing religion and politics! No theocracy! Garrrr ...

I can make the case against abortion without appealing to Bible once.

Talking about being supportive of the least among your brothers and sisters is all well and good, but there are different ways of being supportive. Enabling government to steal out of the pockets of your brothers and sisters is not always the best way to support them, nor is empowering the government to arbitrate when, who, and how your brothers and sisters are deemed worthy of help and what help is to be given.

This is where conservatives differ with you. We feel the government is least supportive means of helping our brothers and sisters in plenty of circumstances because government often looks to help itself first and anyone else far down on the list. Look at education for a clue on that one.

Most conservatives I know never wanted to stop gays from having the government benefits. What we objected to was the arbitrary redefinition of the word because look where it has taken us. There are many different ideas of what marriage is, but now that we have legally redefined it, it puts a lot of people into legal jeopardy for holding their religious beliefs which also is a clear violation of the first amendment right. A better solution would have been to remove the word marriage from the government legal terms entirely for everyone thus leaving it up to individuals what marriage is and would be for them and their groups.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

An empty building.

And who got shot or who's businesses got vandalized ?

It was enough to get Finicum shot by the police for being violent no less, at least according to the police report.

This group is still warming up give them time.

a reply to: infolurker

The Oct 15th doomsday guy got it wrong. Its actually Nov 4th when we will be raptured to save us from antifa!

/sarcasm
/glibness
#antifasuckschodes

a reply to: Abysha

I think we all know the answer to that question.

They'd probably throw blame on Obama and/or Hillary too somehow.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

NAH ...so long as YOU shun them ,WE know there's NUTS roaming around...but IT'S got to be BIG, clear ,and unambiguous.
ALSO gotta make CNN.
THAT ain't party.

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

An empty building.

And who got shot or who's businesses got vandalized ?

Just curious... if Antifa went in with guns and occupied a government building (empty), what sort of threads would you be furiously typing away at right now?

That's a really good question.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Wow, uptick in "ANTIFA" fear-mongering from the right in the last two or three days.

Makes one wonder what's up ...

You didn't watch the videos nor the links the OP provided did you? To say this is fear mongering from the right is ridiculous. I know many Democrats in my own family who are taking the red pill due to me showing them what these idiots are doing to shut down free speech!

Free speech should not be a left or right thing. If it is, then you just might be a fascist.

a reply to: Blaine91555

Behind it I suspect are some very seriously dangerous people pulling the strings.

Rephrase that just a bit , and you have answered my question from earlier .
The motive behind the movement would make it sedition.
Assisting a foreign national (whether paid or not) is treason

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Abysha

Religion is used as a convenient excuse against anything the left doesn't like.

Oh, look ... this piece of legislation is being introduced by someone we know is religious; therefore, it must be prompted by his faith. That means he's mixing religion and politics! No theocracy! Garrrr ...

I can make the case against abortion without appealing to Bible once.

Talking about being supportive of the least among your brothers and sisters is all well and good, but there are different ways of being supportive. Enabling government to steal out of the pockets of your brothers and sisters is not always the best way to support them, nor is empowering the government to arbitrate when, who, and how your brothers and sisters are deemed worthy of help and what help is to be given.

This is where conservatives differ with you. We feel the government is least supportive means of helping our brothers and sisters in plenty of circumstances because government often looks to help itself first and anyone else far down on the list. Look at education for a clue on that one.

Most conservatives I know never wanted to stop gays from having the government benefits. What we objected to was the arbitrary redefinition of the word because look where it has taken us. There are many different ideas of what marriage is, but now that we have legally redefined it, it puts a lot of people into legal jeopardy for holding their religious beliefs which also is a clear violation of the first amendment right. A better solution would have been to remove the word marriage from the government legal terms entirely for everyone thus leaving it up to individuals what marriage is and would be for them and their groups.

I could counter-point all of those with my own views and we could go back and forth but that wasn't my point.

My point is why are each of those issues are even considered left vs right?

I know conservatives who are all for single payer and liberals who are pro-life etc, etc.

It's as if they divided these issues masterfully so they could take the issues people feel the most strongly about and assure a decent 50/50 political distribution to prevent any real progress.

You like guns? Well that means you now have to love war! Wait, you don't love war? That means you gotta love abortion! You don't dig on abortion? Well then you must love squashing gay rights! You support gay rights? Oh... then you must be a commie! You don't like communism? Then you have to vote for a 80's bad guy billionaire trope for president. You don't like that guy? You must be Antifa.

And around and around we go... the platforms themselves shouldn't involve nearly half the issues they do.

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Wow, uptick in "ANTIFA" fear-mongering from the right in the last two or three days.

Makes one wonder what's up ...

You didn't watch the videos nor the links the OP provided did you? To say this is fear mongering from the right is ridiculous. I know many Democrats in my own family who are taking the red pill due to me showing them what these idiots are doing to shut down free speech!

Free speech should not be a left or right thing. If it is, then you just might be a fascist.

Considering the video eludes to the fact that both the extreme left and the extreme right are two peas in the same pod, their ideology is identical and they both aim for the same outcome I am not sure you watched it either, and if you did you sure as hell missed the point.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: butcherguy

So only the left shoots people? L. O. L.

I think you're just proving the point more and more. Turn a blind eye to one side and then try to blame everything on the other. Classic identity politics, if Soros is really funding Antifa then I'd say you're falling for it.

You're either purposely ignoring the point, or don't have the bus fare. Who inferred the left have shot people?

Who was shot in the Oregon standoff? No one. You brought it up, they didn't go out of their way to attack people, but they did embrace their 2'nd amendment rights.

On the other hand, the left have violently attacked people. At almost every protest they either hold or infiltrate. They silence free speech, intimidate single people in groups, howl abuse at anyone who attempts to engage them, and act like nothing more than the autistic spoiled children that they literally are.

So when asked "So you ignore right wing militia then?" it begs the question, who have they attacked with the same fervor as the left wing militia?

But you ignore the real question to continue your agenda...

a reply to: badw0lf

Who was shot in the Oregon standoff? No one. You brought it up, they didn't go out of their way to attack people, but they did embrace their 2'nd amendment rights.

Actually I bought that up.

So are you saying you think embracing the 2nd amendment involves taking over government buildings at gunpoint ....good to know...