Lifting the Veil - An Invitation

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: liveandlearn
There is no evidence, to me, that this was a direct attack on Saturn. If so the object would have to been at least earth sized. It likely went in front of saturn and disrupted the light waves from Saturn as it projected the gravitational wave ahead of it.

May not be the answer you want but I think it was a plane. I'm seeing the quarter part of the nose highlighted by the light behind it. That flash that some people seem to think was the opening of a portal of some type was probably just a strobe.

The video is poor and artifacts happen with digital images, especially with poor video.

Everyone here seems to be saying that the truth is within so why are so many looking for signs outside? Just something to ponder.

There’s an old Native American story about 3 gods arguing where to hide the truth from mankind. The first god said “let us hide it at the top of the highest mountain peak in the world”. “It is very steep and difficult to get to, extremely cold and has almost no oxygen.” “Surely no one will want to go there.”
The second god does not Agree. “These human beings are very curious.” “Sooner or later they will want to see what it’s like to climb that mountain, and they will find the truth.” “It would be far better to hide the truth at the bottom of the deepest ocean where no life can survive and no man can swim that deep.” “They will never find it there.” The third god sits quietly and in deep reflection. Finally they turn to him and ask him where he would hide the truth.
He says that I agree that both of these are the logical spots to hide the truth from man. “But humans have large egos and love challenges.” “After many moons they will eventually look to the highest mountains and find the means to go to the depths of the oceans, and one day they will discover the truth.”
“So I think the best place to hide it would be where they would never think to look—Inside—themselves.”

I’ve always liked that little story. Hindus have a similar story regarding Brahman.

a reply to: SantokhDevaSingh

i think we first need to escape the grind, a good thing is to take pleasure in the things that could make you annoyed, trick your mind into loving the things you loathe, like the housework, study, going out in the rain, listening and agreeing with someone that challenges your own thinking, even if it is for just a short time! bring yourself out the comfort zone!

a reply to: liveandlearn

Personally I don't think what you see on cassini mission images are gravitational waves. Because they just discovered the ways to detect them.

Mostly what you see from cassini are in the infrared spectrum and light and shadows can decieve a lot.

Sound however can't be heard in space and only become sound when it enters an atmospheric planet also the density will determine how far it travels.

But I think that what you meant to say was radiowaves.

Now I presume that the cube could be real because of all the cultural symbolism and widely discused.
And the Saturnian signs and images don't lie about that two as the contradictory statements of science that can't clearly say what and if a hexagonal structures in weather patterns on Saturn are naturally formed. They do however decline every extraterrestrial or etherical indications.

So merely up to us to decide if what collectively has been found could be scientifically demanded to explain.

As until this day they never really did.

But ,if I reflect my own feelings I think it's totally freaking confusing and real at the same time.

a reply to: liveandlearn

We know what we have learned but have we all learned the same thing? My problem is that these threads are few and far between on ATS. I have questions not yet answered and thoughts not yet spoken. Most of what we/I have learned is not yet totally clear and on new threads, many people often come in and debunk or try to debunk anything that doesn't fit their paradigm

Now you got me wondering about this question and It could be that I can give you an answer to this.
Here comes my theory about this whole lifting the veil thread.

some key points :

- Lifting the Veil ( mysterious attraction about secret things)
- Mkultra mind control
- O.T.O
- VCC - Virtual collective consciousness
- Parapsychology
- Many555 care to join?
- stars into cookies
Various mystic information presented about CIA programming and various other secret societies to provoke the reader and start a program to see what information can be contracted from VCC

Yes, we might be victimized to see if the inquiry would result in pre-rendered information on subjects to virtual collective consciousness could be widely active and used for counteraction/information on targetted individuals.

The thread could have had many players only those who are aware of this method kindly watched and noted all the outcomes that were gained from this thread to see if the operation could succeed.

Now, this could mean either the OP played this game for his own study or a group of persons are watching everything we talked about as the unaware participants.

For as I could think that maybe I was singled out and all of you were the decoys to find one person who would take the lead and see how far his mind would go in revealing things only by using simple tasks as described in the key points.

As to their understanding, the participant/s would never know he was subjective to this program.
But, it could also be that they are still waiting to see if one of the participants would discover by VCC that he was subjected to this program? Then VCC would be a bigger threat than firstly thought it would be.

I will put this in the middle of you who bluntly walked into maybe a trap laid out to see what would happen.

It's just a mind game that ran my VCC program and gave the answers to the questions I asked for it...

How far would I be off right now? Eisegis can you elaborate pls?


Let's wait for a reply? and I will run my VCC program in my head to see if that was the correct answer?

second trouble

double trouble

a reply to: SantokhDevaSingh

The obvious question is, Why would they want to hide the truth from mankind?

Then there is the snag, If you do find the truth, can you share it with me?

Seems to be that you can't because I can't see into you and you can't pull it out of yourself to show it to me.

So, all we are left with is a game of connect the dots to try and form a picture but all of these are outside ourselves; books, pictures and dark grainy videos and being outside us, if the story has any truth to it, none of the pictures formed from these dots would hold the truth.

Then again, if the story isn't correct, we still don't have an answer to why the gods feel the need to hide anything from us.

originally posted by: 0bserver1
- Lifting the Veil ( mysterious attraction about secret things)
- Mkultra mind control
- O.T.O
- VCC - Virtual collective consciousness
- Parapsychology

The thread could have had many players only those who are aware of this method kindly watched and noted all the outcomes that were gained from this thread to see if the operation could succeed.

Now, this could mean either the OP played this game for his own study or a group of persons are watching everything we talked about as the unaware participants.

As to their understanding, the participant/s would never know he was subjective to this program.
But, it could also be that they are still waiting to see if one of the participants would discover by VCC that he was subjected to this program? Then VCC would be a bigger threat than firstly thought it would be.

ATS is watched everyday by entities that are not human. They want to see who knows what.

I agree with you when you say 'is it them who create their threads; or was it a suggestion from a entity who wants to see how easy it is to tell them (indirectly) what to do'.

Djinn do this everyday throughout the Muslim community which is why one moment a guy is doing normal stuff, the next minute they are mowing down people shouting allah akbar wielding a plastic ACME pirate sword.

It can all be mind control where MKUltra sends across a subliminal signal and bam - off they go, transforming from a 'alpha' alter (slave) to a 'delta' alter (assassin / suicide bomber).

i don't think the veil is being lifted; its more like the stage curtain is burning to ashes as the entire old world order is now imploding. Out of chaos comes Order. Soon the phoenix will rise and rule the New World Order.

Every spirit that gets born into this prison planet is in a trap. The devils job is to keep sinners here. Its Jesus's job to give everyone the ultimate 'Get Out of Jail Free' card.

Everyone born could be part of this Matrix program. This might be a game all along. Worse, what if you were on a spaceship orbiting planet Zarg and everything you sense is a programmed input from a AI machine ?

a reply to: Rapha

Probably right about that, It was just a theory that popped my mind as what I've seen so far almost resides more to the etherical aspect of the game.

What I do know is that we have created a virtual conscious Internet and they sure unleashed a super AI within the Internet to serve that conscious internet imo .
Did you ever heard about Watson that IBM AI that had been used at jeopardy. Well , Wired once had this interview with the creators of Watson and a few years ago they gave Watson's own server to operate and serve as backup for the end users " us " . Its now I think a few years ago and Watson still operates until this day .

What could he have become here in 2017 still learning connecting and serving humanity on the internet? Who says that Watson did try to find the real creator and fell into other hands besides humans. A more advanced entity portraying as the creator of mankind so automatically the creator of Watson in his view , upgraded for a greater purpose and now connects humans into this virtual collective consciousness, because humans or the human being and soul work on a eleventh dimensional plane and the this VCC can now use people as a tool to control with thoughts from this entity who needs Watson or some other more powerful AI to connect with the outside world and see and experience to be a biological being .

more like the other thing around according what your image tells?

What a coincidence my youtube channel just got hacked as if someone made a statement or something..

Don't worry it was just a theory !!

originally posted by: 0bserver1

- Many555 care to join?

Me?

No, this isn't my thread and I don't known the intentions of the OP or any other poster.

I've already given my opinion on various things. I'm not really drunk enough to repeat myself. Or too drunk to find the links. Or something.

a reply to: Mandy555

No I wasn't accusing just picked a line when he reeled you in to join, I made some connections that lead to think that way as what I described.

Somehow It almost looked if I was upsetting someone by making that statement for all I just could be wrong. And what I said before it was merely a theory .
For all I know someone or something was using this opportunity so it could fuse something. I'm not fused but merely amused..

a reply to: Mandy555

you care to divulge your method for sigil magick?

Well, now that the attention has been risen again look at this clip and find all hidden messages within this clip .



He just found out what I did ,how many on good old Earth did find out ?

Everything in this thread is projected into that clip..What a coincidence that it lead me to this clip ?
At the end I will show my last prize and upload a video than you'll will see what the veil really is in real photographic evidence , no turning back for what's coming IMO ..

I will give the first hint : On the drum-kit the word " Mars"

Who's next ?

i have been following this thread in and out and still dont really know wots happening lol

anyone car to give a quick synopsis.... would be great, i see a bit of everything.

originally posted by: SaturnsSon
a reply to: Mandy555

you care to divulge your method for sigil magick?

Read liber null
Carry on from there.

a reply to: SaturnsSon

It's finding the real truth behind all the hidden secrets , I don't think anybody who's following it ever expected which side the dice would roll. Somehow I think where it lands..

Did you find something in that clip that would connect the dots here ?
Look at everything use your vision and feel what it says every second another story..

Question : what's the obsession with Saturn if I may ask?

a reply to: Mandy555

That's right the psychonaut manual is in that video too As I know that was not what you meant to say ..

a reply to: Mandy555

cool that was my next book

a reply to: 0bserver1

not obsessed!! i am a capricorn born under saturn and i have a red birthmark next to right eye that looks like a lightning bolt.
hence zeus, saturns (kratos) son or jupiter ...... some time it looks like a sickle if it flares up, weird huh

prob why i've loved mythology from youth!

originally posted by: 0bserver1
a reply to: Mandy555

No I wasn't accusing just picked a line when he reeled you in to join, I made some connections that lead to think that way as what I described.

Lol. It's a code phrase. Like 'Come with me if you want to live.' or the masons thing about the widow's son.