NIBIRU WATCH- ATS-ers Down Under 9/21 And On

a reply to: randyvs

It is a scientific fact that everything comes to an end.

Quite the opposite actually.

Nothing ends, everything transforms.

a reply to: grindhouzer

What if that object was pitch black?

What if?


What if a car painted black? Would it be invisible?

a reply to: Blarneystoner

Even if "Nibiru" was a dark star, an object of it's supposed size would have an effect on the orbits of other planetary bodies in our solar system, but that's not the case.

Even if was a dark star and if it was affecting the orbits it would be visible most likely to the naked eye.

a reply to: grindhouzer

So just becuase you "CANT SEE IT" Doesnt mean "ITS NOT THERE"

Yes, but it would be visible because you actually said it.

we only see the part of it that is "Illuminated" by the Sun.

Yay, you know can illuminate objects.


How can a brown dwarf or another planet not reflect the suns light?

originally posted by: staple

originally posted by: TheBlackDog
a reply to: prevenge

Nobody ANYWHERE is going to see nibiru because it doesn't exist. Also the Vatican doesn't have an Observatory in Antarctica, so I don't know where you're getting that information from.

They do have on is AZ though And get this.. It's named Lucifer.
en.wikipedia.org...

Yes they have the VATT telescope on Mt Graham but Lucifer is an instrument attached to the LBT telescope on the same mountain, not the Vatican's telescope.
www.lsw.uni-heidelberg.de...

a reply to: InhaleExhale

Nothing ends, everything transforms.

Semantics

originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: grindhouzer

What if that object was pitch black?

What if?


What if a car painted black? Would it be invisible?

If it's at night time and that car doesn't have its headlights on then that black car would be very difficult to see. Until it drives into your headlights or under a street lamp. Then we you will see it.

a reply to: grindhouzer

The Sun is an awesome streetlight.

a reply to: Phage


Unless of course there is something blocking the light path

a reply to: prevenge

from south west australia - nothing unusual in the sky during the day

a reply to: grindhouzer

Then we would see a black void behind it.

Unless you're talking about a car driving in the desert at night with a crescent moon, but that doesn't apply to space that has many bright little lights that we would notice are being blocked out via a big black shadow....unless somehow its gravity is so extremely that it is creating a gravitational lens and warping stars around it.

In that case we would see that it is doubling up the stars/objects around it and the earth would of already went through spaghettification from the compact object creating the gravitational lens and we would not be having this discussion.

originally posted by: grindhouzer
a reply to: Phage


Unless of course there is something blocking the light path

If a very large black celestial body was somewhere in our solar system (say, our near Jupiter and Saturn) and was blocking the sunlight, that means that sunlight would be falling upon it -- so it would be lit up by the sun.

At that relatively short distance to the Sun and to us, even a black object that was being lit by the sun would be visible, just like (as you mentioned) the light from a streetlamp or headlamps feel upon that car.


People seem to misunderstand astronomers when they say "we can't see a brown dwarf with a visible light telescope; we can only see it in infrared". People mistake that statement to mean that brown dwarfs are made of some exotic material that can't ever be seen by our eyes.

However, that's not what they are saying. What they are saying is that a brown dwarf gives off virtually no light of it's own light, so if it is far away from our Sun, it would not be lit by the Sun, and thus be too dark to see with visible light telescopes. What those people seem to be missing is the fact that if that same dwarf star were orbiting the Sun somewhere out by Jupiter, it would be lit by the sun and thus visible to us -- almost certainly visible to the naked eye.

By the way, brown dwarfs are not black, and they aren't even brown. They are probably a ruddy orange color:

What Color are Brown Dwarfs?

originally posted by: Soylent Green Is People

originally posted by: grindhouzer
a reply to: Phage

Unless of course there is something blocking the light path

that sunlight would be falling upon it -- so it would be lit up by the sun.

.... People mistake that statement to mean that brown dwarfs are made of some exotic material that can't ever be seen by our eyes.

... if that same dwarf star were orbiting the Sun somewhere out by Jupiter, it would be lit by the sun and thus visible to us -- almost certainly visible to the naked eeye

AAAAAACTUALLYYY......
(This is in response to all the past 10 or so consecutive "dark-star/planet" dismissive posts)

"It's just ridiculous how dark this planet is, how alien it is compared to anything we have in our solar system," study lead-author David Kipping, an astronomer at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, told SPACE.com. "It's darker than the blackest lump of coal, than dark acrylic paint you might paint with. It's bizarre how this huge planet became so absorbent of all the light that hits it."

Space.com, Aug 11, 2011 LINK - Coal-Black Alien Planet Is Darkest Ever Seen

AAAAANNND....

The researchers determined the planet's light-eating capabilities by using Hubble's Space Telescope Imaging Spectrograph to search in mostly visible light for a tiny dip in starlight as the planet passed directly behind the star. The amount of dimming tells astronomers how much reflected light is given off by the planet. However, the observations did not detect reflected light, meaning that the daytime side of the planet is absorbing almost all the starlight falling onto it.

Exoplanets.NASA.gov Sept 14, 2017 LINK - NASA's Hubble captures blistering pitch-black planet

From Space Telescope Science Institute

What is it with people on this board being so religiously attached to their (albeit often unfounded) convictions?

Do some basic research if you're so convinced that you'll pour energy into stacks of paragraphs of hot air.






P.s. speaking of misguidedly thinking its some EXOTIC light absorbing material....

"Some have proposed that this darkness may be caused by a huge abundance of gaseous sodium and titanium oxide," Kipping said. "But more likely there is something exotic there that we have not thought of before.

National Geographic.com LINK - Darkest Planet Found: Coal-Black, It Reflects Almost No Light

.... Deny Ignorance...
...plz?

a reply to: prevenge

Ok, so they were able to detect a planet that was super dark, outside our solar system, but they can't find one that is supposedly within the orbit of our planetary system? The exact same ways they used to find that planet would work just as well in our solar system too.

originally posted by: prevenge

What is it with people on this board being so religiously attached to their (albeit often unfounded) convictions?

Do some basic research if you're so convinced that you'll pour energy into stacks of paragraphs of hot air.

Oh God, the irony hurts me oh so much.

Really? Coming from a person who believes a planet is going to come out of nowhere and destroy Earth and take gold to create another body of Christ.

Oh it hurts, it really does.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Edit: Read one of the quote wrong.

originally posted by: MuonToGluon

originally posted by: prevenge

What is it with people on this board being so religiously attached to their (albeit often unfounded) convictions?

Do some basic research if you're so convinced that you'll pour energy into stacks of paragraphs of hot air.

Oh God, the irony hurts me oh so much.

Really? Coming from a person who believes a planet is going to come out of nowhere and destroy Earth and take gold to create another body of Christ.

Oh it hurts, it really does.

I never said anything about destroying earth I don't believe...

Never said it was going to come out of nowhere.

Why so butt-hurt?
Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.

Watch you squirm about this topic.

Thanks for detailing the convo into meaningless derogatory blabber though.

Helps bump the threat.
..ahem... tthhreeeaddd.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: prevenge

Ok, so they were able to detect a planet that was super dark, outside our solar system, but they can't find one that is supposedly within the orbit of our planetary system? The exact same ways they used to find that planet would work just as well in our solar system too.

Honestly now,
How exactly do you think the Breaking News of such a "New Discovery" would fare in our already chaotic world?
How bout that US Dollar value? How bout all those Wall Street "sells" simultaneously downing the phone grid.

"How Bout"... The psychological trauma it would cause to your family and friends if they were not already adjusted to the potential effects of such a celestial passing?

I doubt any of these scenarios really find us well.

More so, nor should we expect any "hypothetical" (lulz) agencies that "allegedly" already been monitoring such an object(s) for a good part of over a quarter of a century, to Find That Information "Well"...

Upon its "hypothetical" INEVITABLE arrival...
Ones in charge of releasing and/or preventing spread of such dire news would undoubtedly deny.

What good would that cause?
ZERO.

so, since that logic is sound..

One can surmise that the drip drop of the "Hey! It's DIFFICULT to identify "Dark" objects!" pantomime would aid in the answers to the millions of rabid Press Conference Inquizition as to how they couldn't possibly have detected it until NOW.

We JUST NOW developed this tech to spy these things as they closely orbit their OWN star.. As their silhouette regularly may obscure it Predictively...

Such is not the technique useable on a member of the Solar System.

We're not under the conviction that it's out there and haven't been able to detect it.

It's of the line of thought that if/when it WAS discovered...
It was within the good of the world to NOT disclose it.

Nobody's kids need to know Awesome Uncle Roy dressed in lady's clothes... After his passing.
Lets not ruin the NOW...

...until it's "TIME".

the logic is sound.

a reply to: prevenge

So how are they keeping all the amateur astronomers from seeing it, or saying something? Or hiding the gravitational effects? Or doesn't it have any?

Still nothing down here..

How long does this need to go on for?