No doubt that neonicotinoids are killing birds, bees, scientists say

But lets get rid of the EPA..amiright?

Seriously though you would think anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together could conclude when you use widespread poison..it's going to eventually cause serious damage.

a reply to: vonclod

and again - that is your opinion - where is your proof.

Nature herself spreads poison all around (ie fox glove with digitalis, tobacco, eggplant, tomatoes with nicotine, arsenic in dust) and that doesn't seem to have spread harm as you predicted.

Use two brain cells and stop listening to propaganda

The environmental movement (ie Green peace, World Wildlife Fund) have advertised on their web sites, their desire to reduce human population. What better way than to start a propaganda campaign condeming pesticides, thus reducing crop yield and the loss of human life by starvation.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: DrumsRfun

Reminds me of the episode of "Black Mirror" on Netflix where humanity had to make bee drones to pollinate.

France had the right idea and banned GMO seeds that roundup built in.

Some parts of China the fruit trees are pollinated by human hand with a camel hair brush, some job !

originally posted by: DrumsRfun

Research suggest neonics can affect reproduction, growth and movement for these species, as well as make them more susceptible to disease. Bonmatin, vice-chair of the task force, said evidence from Europe suggests these chemicals don't actually help farmers much.

Makes perfect sense. New World Order needs to reduce the population by several billion. Kill the bees, kill the people. Blame it on climate change and the deniers.

Lord how stupid are humans ???
Pesticides kill insects ( BEES are insects )
It takes 20 years to figer this out ??
But on with stupidly Nitrogen helps plants Grow spread tons and tons on teh ground it rains goes into teh coeans and makes plants grow .
Then plants die ( It is the circle of life ) lol
then Bactria eat the dead plants using all the Oxygen in the water then the fish die because ( wow they need oxygen as well .
You dont really think fish breath water do you ?ll these things are no brainers my guess is humans dont have a brain after all .

originally posted by: lightedhype
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Thanks for being scientifically technical with your response.

It's called chemical bonding. And yes. I'm no expert in any of this but I'm assuming if you consume chemicals that's changes the properties of your food it creates anomalies. I just don't know what. That's for smarter people then me that should already know before putting it on our food. Especially if said chemical doesn't work for its intended purpose.

It's safe to say what's not good for animals is not good for humans.

Song bird diets consist mostly of just 3 things; fruit, seeds and insects.
All 3 of those could easily be contaminated especially around field edges which is where birds typically feed and nest.
Add in the effects of wind and water runoff for a biological disaster.
Monoculture is a short term fix creating long term problems.
The overuse of herbicides, insecticides and fertilizer are ruining the very land we need to keep producing crops.

a reply to: Asktheanimals

Gee I thought this thread was about niconids. And as soon as that arguement is shredded - its on to other arguments, all also with a shred of evidence provided.

For your information, manure, has been spread on agricultural fields for milenia. Fertilizer is just clean manure.

I guess, you are ok with growing your food in #. I myself, prefer fertilizer.

a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

Clearly you have not worked with the 2..they BOTH SUCK.

A third option needs to be considered, find it.

originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: ConscienceZombie

Cancer existed BEFORE niconids

references to "unknown ailments" is an emotional appeal and has no place in science.

"atoms binding to atoms"? is that magic? If niconid "atoms" bind to my atoms, then earth "atoms" like heavy metals in dust also bind to my atoms, like cyanide, like arsenic, like radiation..

Like I said - DOOM PORN

There is plenty of research showing that the use of niconids is more beneficial than harmful. We do have more than 8 billion people to feed. crop yield is crucial.

Do you think hunger "atoms" will bind with my atoms and kill me in the near future?

I am determined after sp many years to post what I initially signed up to share and I'm gonna do so today, consarnit. If that is what you believe then I hope you will read what I say and see if considering my story gives you a side of things to see you haven't yet seen and lead to reevaluation.