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originally posted by: Kapusta
a reply to: muzzleflash
Muzz , now I have been on ATS for over 10 years and you have been around for a long time as well. I have done so much research into UFO, Abduction , etc so much so that I just feel their is an explanation for 99.9% of it . I used to be a believer but I can't say that so much anymore . However I have never known you to tell a fable here on ATS and you are always a str8 forward dude - so I am baffled by this experience. I don't discount that you had this vivid experience . I am a bit skeptical of it though and what leads me to this is the lack of unawarness of reality during this experience. The lack of fear . The lack of panic etc . Just some things don't add up to me . I am more of the understanding that you had a vivid dream . But that's my realist opnion and I could very well be wrong . I hope not ! But what ever this case may be ty for sharing this.
Kap
originally posted by: AboveBoard
A reply to: muzzleflash
Hey muzzleflash.
I believe you woke up to the ufos. I also believe you had a weird and related dreamlike lucid experience.
I'm going to throw it out there that maybe you weren't physically brought aboard a ship but investigated mentally while asleep, which you experienced as a lucid dream.
This sort of mental distortion or high-strangeness is quite common I understand, with UFO events. If you were taken aboard I invite you to consider that perhaps you were not actually awake the whole time... Creepy, right? Look carefully for any physical evidence on your body. If there is none, then perhaps you were "probed" in a different way.
Obviously I don't know. I'm just throwing out ideas that may be completely wrong, but that's what I was thinking when you shared the experience.
Then again, it might have just been a weird dream, but if you learned something from it take it as a gift.
Your experiences are just electrical signals in your brain.. You can't directly perceive any thing. What does a dream even mean? or "reality?" How does one tell what is really going on when somones messing with the transmission??
originally posted by: muzzleflash
originally posted by: AboveBoard
A reply to: muzzleflash
Hey muzzleflash.
I believe you woke up to the ufos. I also believe you had a weird and related dreamlike lucid experience.
I'm going to throw it out there that maybe you weren't physically brought aboard a ship but investigated mentally while asleep, which you experienced as a lucid dream.
This sort of mental distortion or high-strangeness is quite common I understand, with UFO events. If you were taken aboard I invite you to consider that perhaps you were not actually awake the whole time... Creepy, right? Look carefully for any physical evidence on your body. If there is none, then perhaps you were "probed" in a different way.
Obviously I don't know. I'm just throwing out ideas that may be completely wrong, but that's what I was thinking when you shared the experience.
Then again, it might have just been a weird dream, but if you learned something from it take it as a gift.
I agree.
There could have been some type of mental distortion and projection event.
But I am convinced that these UFOs I saw are directly related to my experience and had a hand in molding it in some fashion or another - whether I was physically up there with them or was just astrally there - I am not sure either way.
I am sure there must be a connection here though.
originally posted by: muzzleflash
originally posted by: TobyFlenderson
a reply to: muzzleflash
Anyone who says it's not real is just projecting their own fears. Only you perceived these events, and maybe JT, so only you know. Amazing story, whatever it turns out to be. Keep us updated if there are any additional developments.
Only she can confirm or deny this event.
I really wanna know.
Hopefully she's going to read this today or tomorrow.
originally posted by: muzzleflash
a reply to: CynConcepts
Do you remember vomiting?
And also do you remember if it was "really hard" to see them straight on?
Like they were able to make themselves hard to see directly?
originally posted by: Reverbs
a reply to: muzzleflash
your story kind of reminded me of NEO in the matrix.. he falls through a tube and wakes up in a spaceship outside of what he thought of as "physical reality." Hes disoriented then throws up..
you also remind me of how many people supposedly see owls as precursors or instead of the "grays."
and in my view there are not so many differences between devils/angels and EBE as you called them, but I wouldnt assume biology myself. I wouldnt assume anything when ones perception is being obviously messed with..
I do think there are non human intelligences messing with our heads.. UFOs could be real or just something your mind saw.. Who knows.. If it was me doing it Id make you believe whatever I wanted you to. It wouldnt be the truth in any case.
originally posted by: CynConcepts
originally posted by: muzzleflash
a reply to: CynConcepts
Do you remember vomiting?
And also do you remember if it was "really hard" to see them straight on?
Like they were able to make themselves hard to see directly?
I really can't remember vomiting. I was enthused that these were my higher selves. They really knew me quite well. I recall the characters seemed familiar, yet weren't. The main one seemed to be the only one to answer my questions. The others hurried about seeming busy with controls and would not respond to me.
I thought to myself that this was my subconscious modern perception of book of life, life review library, or the archives folks talk about. First time I was curious and slightly confused. Second time, it was very familiar. The same rooms and monitors and most of the same characters. Certainly, easier to think my subconscious was creating a dream rather than being abducted, though.
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: muzzleflash
I asked a question. You didn't answer it.
I offered my opinion on your OP. Just because you don't like my opinion on your story it doesn't make my opinion trolling.