What is it about any government that makes you want global government?

This nu-liberal appeal to cushy notions of some monolythic global government I find most perplexing, and for many reasons. But perhaps the most simple cut is I fail to see what government anywhere that is the shining example. We really want managera of places like India having a day in our local problems? Not even our very own government is one to be proud of. And thats the one the EU is modelled after. Hows that social experiment going? Wide open borders working out super awesome over there, right? Better yet, can citizens actually vote the EU heads out of office? This idea to take our model here but add another layer of top down untouchable bureaucrats above congress potus etc is I must day the most asinine idea of "progress" that can be imagined. They might as well call it a monarchy as in the larger acheme of things whats the real difference? Even here under the corporatocracy its the same BS. Oh and theyvhave it there too, no? If anything we need smaller nations (including here) right on down to "micronations". Look that subject up. The deck is already stacked to virtual impossibility of auch ever coming to exist. And your global goverment ambitions I can promise you will stamp that notion out absolutely forever. From there less untangling alliances. Such should only have to come up as needed defensively, and simmer afterwards. It just leads to problems otherwise while a global government simply isnt going to work either meaning to push for it will ensure internal alienation and divisions. The model is supposed to build youe own home to perfection and lead by example, not keep adding crap layers upon crap layers thus sealing the fate of hoping for the best when all existing data demonstrates its all been gone wrong pretty much all along.

Want? Want has little to do with it.

Can't trust businesses, can't trust fellow citizens, can't trust yourself, need government to look after and provide everything.

a reply to: TruMcCarthy

Um, what evidence exists that anyone can trust any government?

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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: TruMcCarthy

Um, what evidence exists that anyone can trust any government?

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Well when half the population are getting free stuff from the government, it's more than they're getting from corporations or their fellow citizens. Bigger government, more free stuff.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

We already have a global government.

The charter of the U.N. instituted it.
This is what it's like.

a reply to: TruMcCarthy

Nothings free.

Except for emoticons:

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

TANSTAAFL

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: TruMcCarthy

Nothings free.

Except for emoticons:

It's not free for me and you, the one's footing the bill, for them it is though.

a reply to: Phage

Phage, you know, if only we could put aside our differences, we could rule this planet together. None of them could stand against us.

But since you're a villain and I'm a good guy, you know, I have to stop you.
Even if it means the whole website gets destroyed, I can't let you do this.

a reply to: muzzleflash

Phage, you know, if only we could put aside our differences, we could rule this planet together.

I have no desire to do so.
Proceed.

a reply to: TruMcCarthy

The government is a corporation.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I would support a one world nation if we have off world colonies.

With off world colonies, we can break away a la the American Revolution if the Earth government becomes oppressive.

a reply to: Phage

Do NOT make me Angry!

a reply to: starwarsisreal

The US is oppressive.

Thats what got me interested in micronations, back in 2009. Check them out in wikipedia if you never have; quite interesting case studies. Some entertaining too.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: TruMcCarthy

The government is a corporation.

What if....
The corporation is a government?

Ever think of it that way?

a reply to: muzzleflash

Omni Consumer Products.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Yoyodyne. Where the future begins tomorrow!

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

By micro-nations, you mean the return of the city states?

The rise of the nation-state curtailed urban autonomy in many ways, but in recent years — as Greece’s current plight reminds us — nation-states have themselves lost a measure of control over their destiny. And it appears that cities are stepping into the breach.

Failing to obtain democratic reforms, activists in Hong Kong have taken to demanding outright autonomy. In recent weeks, the British government has announced plans to devolve power and funding to local city authorities, an event The Financial Times heralded as an “English revolution.” Mayors from five dozen cities met at the Vatican last month and pledged to combat climate change and mitigate its impact on the poor. In the United States, more than 200 cities have passed laws in recent years preventing local police from detaining suspects at the sole request of federal immigration authorities. One of the oldest prerogative of cities, after all, is to determine who lives in them.

Another is to ensure they are livable at all. Next year, the United Nations will meet to produce a common global strategy on urbanization. Like other recent international summits, Habitat III is expected to recommend decentralization of power to cities in the developing world, a shift already in progress. At the Financing for Development Conference in Addis Ababa, a global meeting usually dominated by national agendas, attendees recognized that “expenditures and investments in sustainable development are being devolved to the subnational level.”

Three factors help explain the push for decentralization: money, technology, and demography. “As cities become the major engines of national and international economic growth,” says professor Diane E. Davis, chair of Harvard’s Department of Urban Planning and Design, “they are able to marshal more economic and political power — at least informally.”

www.bostonglobe.com...

a reply to: starwarsisreal

Micronations.

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