Sept 16th In a few hours Richmond VA will be Cville 2.0

a reply to: Sillyolme

Probably went to get some of that sweet, sweet $15/hour protesting money.

originally posted by: aethertek
Woohoo more slavers on parade, just look at those shining examples of humanity,,,

God must be so proud of those creations.

www.rawstory.com...

K~

Hold on, I thought democrats preached tolerance? I mean, some 6'5" transvestite wants to use the toilet next to my daughter and I'm not supposed to even blink but at the same time, you have no issues insulting these folks based on appearance?

a reply to: MysticPearl

The tolerant left strikes again.

originally posted by: TobyFlenderson
a reply to: Asktheanimals

My God, you guys are dancing around the #ing point here. This has nothing to do with 100 year old statues. This has nothing to do with RACE. Look at these people. Look at the people protesting in St. Louis. Do any of these people look like people with power, authority, any influence at all? As long as they have us fighting these stupid #ing issues we won't be looking at the destruction of our food supply, or our very planet.

Once and for all, this is 2017, RACE MEANS NOTHING. We are all #ing humans and we are being lead around like a bunch of sheep.

Sorry, I'm just sick of this stupid bs, I thought ATS was somehow above this #. But it's not, it's just more partisan bs.

This sort of race baiting is happening across Europe and the USA. There isn't anywhere else to find out about these things except local newspapers. There are hate sites like democraticunderground.com but those are more hate against those with wealth than anything else.

a reply to: BlueJacket

Thank you. Not sure why people thought i disappeared. I have some major health issues aswell, so if I can make it out there it wont be til later tonight. I just woke up 3 minutes ago.. let me get my bearings please.



So checked the event on facebook, it was deleted on facebook 3 hours ago. Now the Group CSA II deleted posts up to several months ago it seems... not sure what is going on. When I talk to our state trooper friend he will tell me more of behind the scenes info since he despises liberals and plans to retire soon due to corruption(so he says.)

a reply to: 757GhoT

Hope you feel better. Dont worry, some folks just get an inflated sense of self by being mean, Ill also be looking forward to your reporting on this if you get out.

a reply to: AboveBoard

I agree with nearly everything you wrote. It was indeed a form of Political correctness to consider Blacks subhuman to justify slavery. Churches across the country reinforced the idea using the writings from the Old Testament. Despite this there were many abolitionists in both the North and the South willing to take on the sacred cow of racial inequality.

History is often distorted not so much to cover up atrocities but to provide justification. Thanks to the freedoms protected by the Constitution we have achieved racial equality, despite the fact the men who wrote it were hypocritical and flawed in many ways. If we're going to judge those in the Confederacy wholesale for the sin of slavery then one must also condemn all Americans going back to our independence for allowing it to continue.

It's a superficial distinction to make "fighting for slavery" (the Confederacy) somehow worse than the institution of slavery itself. There is simply no logic that would end this historical hunt for "racists" at 1861 since they were part and parcel of the very creation of the country. The American sin of slavery cannot all be lain at the Mason-Dixon line but belongs to it entire.

IMO this is not a genuine grass roots movement but one being pushed by very powerful factions who seek to divide us. The anger and frustration at the lack of opportunity and economic progress are being blamed on racial inequality. Rather than face difficult issues it's become politically opportune to excuse failures and excesses by blaming them on others. In one stroke they are absolved of personal responsibility and become another cog in the political blame brigade.

The answer to the problems facing minorities won't be solved by government, they benefit from them and their perpetuation. That is why the hunt for racists won't end at 1861, not because people were racial bigots but because the real goal is to destroy the Constitution and Declaration of Independence which stand as bulwarks against globalism. They'll just keep reaching further back to Andrew Jackson, Jefferson, Washington.....all parts of a system of chattel slavery.

a reply to: Asktheanimals

Wonderfully well said, my thoughts as well.

a reply to: BlueJacket

www.13newsnow.com...



Thanks Blue
So I must admit something doesnt sound right about this... Antifa and BLM were supposed to be out there in full force, and multiple other pro-monument groups were supposed to be out theren in full force... but it seems that wasnt the case... I really hope our statie friend comes as usual tomorrow so can chat about this.

Something just doesnt add up.... Does this even not prove CVille was a massive psyop/bull#?

Also my EMT friends have saved my life over 6 times from near death... I trust them with my life. I have never once been lied to by them, I am just saying what they were told by counter protestors a day or so ago. Dont shoot the messenger. But knowing Richmond.. counter protests will happen at night time, just like after Cville. All I know is something doesnt smell right when you compre Cville and this... doesnt smell right indeed.


Will continue to update as I find more. My GP randomly flares up so posts can be severely delayed. But I hope to make it there tonight because I have a feelings things are not over, esp. since it was supposed to happened until 6pm.. but they already been forced to leave? Hmmmm ?¿

originally posted by: Martin75

So much for honesty in media -
The full title is: WATCH LIVE: Protesters are gathered in Richmond, Virginia where a Robert E. Lee statue was removed without warning earlier this week

Either this isn't live or the title is deliberately misleading.
I think I would have heard about it's removal had it actually occurred.

a reply to: Asktheanimals


Theres no way this couldve happened without me knowing... is this the same statue as on Monument ave? This doesnt make any sense.... Some secretive BS is going on if true.

A few days after riots in Cville there was a "mini riot" in RVA near Robert E Lee statue shouting all types of racist phrases... it was disgusting. Just a bunch of racist low income "kids" walking cussing out and intimidating white people... it was sickening.


exit: I know very clearnet link:

www.facebook.com...

"old" FB live video of today

a reply to: Asktheanimals

Asktheanimals
posted on Sep, 16 2017 @ 04:31 PM a reply to: AboveBoard

I agree with nearly everything you wrote.

I appreciate you saying that. Thank you.

It's a superficial distinction to make "fighting for slavery" (the Confederacy) somehow worse than the institution of slavery itself. There is simply no logic that would end this historical hunt for "racists" at 1861 since they were part and parcel of the very creation of the country. The American sin of slavery cannot all be lain at the Mason-Dixon line but belong to it entire.

I hear what you are saying and on one level I agree that, as you so eloquently put it, "The American sin of slavery cannot all be lain at the Mason-Dixon Line but belong to it entire."

This is true because prejudice wasn't just a Southern invention. It was endemic to American culture. Native Americans received a good dose of this same inherent bigotry, as did the Chinese, the Catholics from Ireland and Italy, etc. And with slavery, the original Constitution did not even recognize them as fully human.

So you are correct that this is an American problem.

The issue is, do we want to, as a nation, move away from bigotry (including bigotry against rural white people) or go backwards into heightened levels of prejudice, fear, injustice and all the ugly behaviors that go along with that?

My answer is a firm "no" to that question.

I think we are repeating patterns.

As to minorities and "government help."

The government is not only helping minorities- there are more poor white people on Medicaid and welfare and SNAP than black people, for example. Poverty does not discriminate.

I don't think anyone who is poor or working-poor and is getting help from government programs wants to be cut off without a net. Strengthen the economy so that people can go off of government help and feed /house / clothe/ have clean water /health care, etc then the programs will automatically become smaller. Supply follows demand, or need.

Government should protect the rights of all citizens and those allowed within its borders, at least.

Anyway, we can disagree about the role of government but we do agree that America as a whole is responsible for the injustices and injuries of the past, as well as their current echos and reverberations.

We must grow beyond the limitations of the past.

a reply to: 757GhoT

Thanks for the link.
I worked for 10 years at a place one block from the statue over on the corner of Grace and Lombardy.
I'm very familiar with the area.
Don't miss the homeless hitting me up for change.

originally posted by: TobyFlenderson
a reply to: Asktheanimals

My God, you guys are dancing around the #ing point here. This has nothing to do with 100 year old statues. This has nothing to do with RACE. Look at these people. Look at the people protesting in St. Louis. Do any of these people look like people with power, authority, any influence at all? As long as they have us fighting these stupid #ing issues we won't be looking at the destruction of our food supply, or our very planet.

Once and for all, this is 2017, RACE MEANS NOTHING. We are all #ing humans and we are being lead around like a bunch of sheep.

Sorry, I'm just sick of this stupid bs, I thought ATS was somehow above this #. But it's not, it's just more partisan bs.

Toby,
You are friggin' SPOT ON !!!!
If the human race doesn't grow up, there will be no more human race.
And yes, come on ATS ---- squabbling today over hunks of bronze and stupid flags that represent a short time in history, is an enormous distraction from things that really matter about our own (and our kids') shared survival.

Looks like it was mostly a peaceful protest.

wric.com...

7 arrested at mostly peaceful protest at Robert E. Lee Monument in Richmond

RICHMOND, Va. (WRIC) — A group of about 300 people converged around the Robert E. Lee Monument in Richmond Saturday to protest in support of and against the possible removal of Confederate statues in the city.

It seems, for now, that police preparation and pleas for the public to avoid the area paid off in that only a handful of arrests were made and no injuries were reported as of 6:15 p.m.

a reply to: MysticPearl

When you understand that transgender has nothing to do with clothing we'll talk. Until then this is an ignorant statement.

a reply to: thesaneone

Yeah like you wouldn't laugh too if you saw someone dressed like that. Say at Walgreens while your on line to buy shampoo. Or at your kids school.
Tolerance doesn't mean you don't have a sense of humor. Lighten up. That picture is funny.

originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: aethertek
Woohoo more slavers on parade, just look at those shining examples of humanity,,,

God must be so proud of those creations.

www.rawstory.com...

K~

Hold on, I thought democrats preached tolerance? I mean, some 6'5" transvestite wants to use the toilet next to my daughter and I'm not supposed to even blink but at the same time, you have no issues insulting these folks based on appearance?

They're ignorant racists who presume superiority based on how they look (white) so yes I will point out their obvious genetic disabilities based on how they look.

K~

a reply to: BlueJacket

Your right. I completely forgot that. My bad.
Did he ever come back?

a reply to: Sillyolme

Yep, sounds like he or she is in poor health and needed rest