Christ refers to Daniel's End Times Prophesy very specifically

Please refer to Daniel's Chapter 12. Christ is deliberately pointing us here. This is for Jewish people and Christians only. It will not make any sense to the rest of you. It is pointless even trying to communicate with anyone other than Jews and Christians because Daniel is a Hebrew book and Revelation a Christian book. So pleas, if you are not in my target audience this is not meant for you and you and you will not have a hope in hell of relating to this.

The Temple was VERY significant to Christ. He deliberately pointed us to Daniel.


Daniel 12:11-13; 11 “From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. 12 Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days."

13 “As for you, go your way till the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the days you will rise to receive your allotted inheritance.”

Christ, when asked about the end said this:

Matthew 24:15; "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (who so readeth, let him understand)."

There is a way to interpret Daniel's days very logically and straight forwardly and it spookily adds up to 2026. Counting from the abolition to a certain abomination indeed is 1,290 (days). Counting from the abomination 1, 335 days is 2026. I will not tell you what the abomination is that makes sense of Daniel's sum, but there is one that is indeed a spiritual abomination to any Jew and it still stands today.

Interesting, too, is the fact that the Angel told Daniel to seal his prophesy up until the end times. John is told not to seal his prophesy up. Both commands about sealing are in the last Chapter of each Prophesy by Daniel and John.

It is the only way to make any sense of this. Counting literally 1,290 days or weeks does not make any sense at all. Unfortunately for us humans counting in years makes too much sense. Let they who have eyes to see and ears to hear know what I am alluding to:

1,290/365 = 3.53424657534

1,335/365 = 3.65753424658

Add the two together and that is equal to 7.20078082192 (As near as you can get it if you have to go from Hebrew Moon Calendar and years to Gregorian over a period of approx 2625 (1335 + 1290). I think that is darned accurate.

Verse 7 of Daniel 12:

“It will be for a time, times and half a time. When the power of the holy people has been finally broken, all these things will be completed.”

A time, times and half a time means 3.5. That is how long from the abomination being set up to the end of days.

In Revelation John mentions:

Revelation12:14; The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent's reach.

Daniel9:27; He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."

Can you now see the 7 years significance and the two halves of the tribulation.

It is my belief that the Tribulation started when the daily sacrifice was abolished. Half way through the Anti Christ was given authority over the nations and began to stand in the Holy of Holies.

We are now coming to the end of the 2nd 3.5 years. John and Daniel were not using our years.

This is the only way that any of this makes sense. believe me I have been at it a long time.

Well, we shall see if 2026 is really the time. It is not very far away now, just 9 more of our little human years.

I had a dream. I was with a beautiful Jewish Woman and we were in love. As we started to kiss a big bully Landlord walked into our house and made it impossible for us to be together. There is indeed a bully in God's House and there is a prophesy about his removal and doom. The beast and the false prophet have a place reserved in the Lake of Fire.

Go in peace, people. Catch ya later!

edit on 14-9-2017 by Revolution9 because: (no reason given)

we shall see if 2026 is really the time. It is not very far away now, just 9 more of our little human years.

And just like every time in the past where "the end" is predicted... the date will come, and pass... and nothing will happen...

And a new date will be predicted... and it will come and pass...

again, and again...

ad nauseam

a reply to: Akragon

I am not saying I am right. However, it is the way I am interpreting Daniel. I am not really concerned with it being right or wrong. It is an observation.

Can you not offer any better criticism than that? Come on, man. Think for once. Use that lazy loaf.

This will not make any sense to you as you do not understand the significance of the Temple like the Jewish people do. It is not really anything to do with you. I did not write this for you. Do you understand? Personally, you are not in my realm Mister. After the rudeness you put me through before I really don't think much of your input at all. If you don't have anything useful to say why not do one.

I'm not religious.

That being said, ANY predictions tied to religion is a fail.

And this is why.

Matthew 24:36

"However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows."

a reply to: Revolution9

Pretty sure the above poster said it best...

matters not what you think of me... this like every other "prediction" will fail

always has... always will

originally posted by: Black_Fox
I'm not religious.

That being said, ANY predictions tied to religion is a fail.

And this is why.

Matthew 24:36

"However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows."

Yes indeed, but a strong but. Daniel's prophesy was sealed up until the end.

Any way we shall see. It is an observation. I am not saying I am right. I am saying Daniel was right if this sum adds up. If it doesn't then I have simply got hold of the wrong end of the stick, which is easy to do. However, the way this came to me, which I shall not discuss, is very strange indeed. What does Christ say;

"Let the reader UNDERSTAND". Does that mean let the reader be confused? No, Christ is saying that it can be understood.

originally posted by: Revolution9

Well, we shall see if 2026 is really the time. It is not very far away now, just 9 more of our little human years.

So 7 minus 2026 is 2019 that hasn't come yet, so how do you know of what the abomination is if it hasn't happened yet.

a reply to: Revolution9

UPDATE:

Sorry to disappoint you folks, but Christ never said nobody knew when the end would come. He NEVER said that. Clearly John knew about the end and so did Daniel.

Christ said nobody knows except the Father as to when Christ would RETURN. I am not here referring to when Christ will return.

I DO NOT KNOW WHEN CHRIST WILL RETURN.

Christ tells us clearly,

Matthew 24: The Day and Hour Unknown

36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man."

Mark 13: 35; “Therefore keep watch because you do not know when the owner of the house will come back—whether in the evening, or at midnight, or when the rooster crows, or at dawn. 36 If he comes suddenly, do not let him find you sleeping. 37 What I say to you, I say to everyone: ‘Watch!’”

Christ is talking about His return. Daniel clearly states how long the great tribulation lasts, when it began and what happened half way through it. Any Orthodox Jew will understand the time scale I am referring to here and the clear historical references.

I will not be talking to anyone here about this because there are sadly some very nasty people trying to shut me up. That does not matter. It is dust to a horse's hoof!

a reply to: Revolution9

maybe you are right, i don't know. i have read several ideas people have had over the years concerning revelations. this is the first time i have come across your date for the Trib. gave you a star and flag for the new idea anyways.

a reply to: Revolution9

"Christ said nobody knows except the Father as to when "Christ-meaning he HIMSELF" would RETURN. I am not here referring to when Christ will return."

So...Jesus...was referring to himself? And he said so?

And then you said...."Christ tells us clearly, Matthew 24: The Day and Hour Unknown..."...

You mean MATTHEW was speaking about Christ. Not Christ about Matthew.

You need to read more...and place into context WHO said what JESUS may or may not have said...Not JESUS tells us about himself in an Apostles testament in a several hundred year old text not written yet.

It was Matthew anyway...and Jesus didnt know what Matthew would later write....so I see your off on who said what, when and by whom...but proceed as you will...

Tape recorders back then wouldve been handy...

MS, Christian

originally posted by: Black_Fox
I'm not religious.

That being said, ANY predictions tied to religion is a fail.

And this is why.

Matthew 24:36

"However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows."

That's the literal interpretation.

There is also the interpretation that Jesus was using Jewish idiom. The one in question about "no man knowing the day or hour" references the Feast of Trumpets. It is the feast that cannot start until someone spots the barest crescent moon by eye. So, no man ever knows the day or hour at which it will begin from year to year.

And since Christ's first advent fulfilled the spring feasts with pentecost being fulfilled by the Holy Spirit, then that leaves the three fall feasts to be fulfilled. Possibly by the events of the second coming.

And just by saying this, no one is date setting because no one still knows which day anything would occur or even what event per se would be fulfilled on the Feast of Trumpets, only that a pattern seems to have been established and hinted at.

a reply to: Revolution9

Here's a clue:

In 599 BC, Nebuchadnezzar II invaded Judah and again laid siege to Jerusalem.

Dome of the Rock "was initially completed in 691CE".

Damn, it fits exactly to the very last digit of digit my 'andsome. Uncanny or what???

Jesus got stuff wrong all the time. He only knew seven of the Ten Commandments. He also said that people living contemporaneously with him would witness everything he foretold in prophecy.

a reply to: Revolution9

Just dropping this lecture by Mike Heiser dealing with End Time prophesy ...What you believe may not be so .

I just think all of this stuff gives people the wrong impression and leads them to disbelieve in God. I can't help but think that Christianity created more atheists by accident (due to overzealous wild interpretations and forcefulness) than any other source.

Those are some real Lamentations.

Although I am around a lot of Christians and I do really commend their strong desire to do good deeds and their sincerity, I'm more of a Universalist that just takes everything into consideration and weighs it all together into a complex balance.

I know God's real in terms of logic and philosophical reasoning, but all this religious doctrinal stuff just seems to cause a lot of problems among humanity. That goes for all organized religions that cannot seem to think outside of the box.

We could talk for years about this and not get anywhere. If you believe blindly in something there's no logic or explanation that will get you out of it. You have to actually question everything deeply without allowing pre-conceived notions to govern your outcomes.

originally posted by: Revolution9

originally posted by: Black_Fox



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However, the way this came to me, which I shall not discuss, is very strange indeed.

Oh come on, don't be that person. Why even mention it then? Why not tell us the strange way this came to you? Won't it boost your case?

a reply to: muzzleflash

I'm not sure how studying eschatology is anything but diving deeply into scripture and its interpretation.

There are so many different possible outcomes based on how you look at it. How you read it. How you look at the root languages the English translations are based on because the Old Testament prophets also referenced the end of days, more than just Daniel at any rate.

The discussions are fascinating. It's probably about some of the least settled bits of scripture since it mostly hasn't occurred only may yet occur, and even then, there is one branch of interpretation that holds that much of it *has* happened.

If a year in Hebrew times are different than the time of regular years, how can we know if one or the other is correct?

Maybe the universe is one giant clock that when all hands point to twelve, the second the second hand passes nothing happens.

Luke17:21

a reply to: ketsuko

I personally don't mind deep discussions on anything Biblical.

What I meant was that the constant predictions and strict adherence to certain questionable doctrines or contentions actually pushes more people away.

I am not in any way referencing the OP here, but instead Christianity as a whole in general when I say this:

The prediction about Apostasy is totally accurate.