How Public Schools Are Brainwashing Students with Fear

originally posted by: chelsdh
When my oldest came home from an anti drug presentation and I asked her what they "taught", I was not surprised that it was a lot of fear mongering and lies.

I used to love those when I was a kid. Officer Safety would come in and explain that 'this one makes you hallucinate and this one makes you feel invincible and this one makes you excited' and I thought 'why are these bad?'.

a reply to: intrepid

The thing is this, intrepid...

If the biggest problem you have with a school, is its curriculum, then with respect, there is no problem at the school. Schools with real problems fail to permanently expel students with histories of criminal violence. Schools with real problems have police offices built onto the side of them, so that teachers are not forced into lawsuit territory, when defending themselves from psychotic little bastards with straight razors, combat knives and bludgeons in their EDC for school. Schools with real problems have students in them who have to change clothes just before walking out the gate, so that it is harder for them to be targeted in a drive by shooting, or a gang stomping.

Its a bit soft to be up and down to the school over what manner the multiplications table is taught in.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Oh yeah! I loved DARE- they had me fully indoctrinated. I freaked the flip out when I found my dad's stash. Then my husband had to wait (extremely patiently) for me to come to the truth on my own. I went from one extreme to the other, all due to doing my own homework. Which is how parents keep their children from taking what they ar fed and never questioning. Whatever the subject "safe sex" vs abstinence, the state sponsored reasons for war vs the real reasons. Just to tie our topic drift into the op- educate your kids! (Not pointing at you August, you know. The collective you).

Just want to add that if my parents had taken the opportunity to teach me about "drugs", especially marijuana, it would have saved them from the uncomfortable situation where I (temporarily) became very disillusioned with me dad, whom I always looked up to.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Oh man... Officer Safety must be a right lark when the eighties segment comes along at the staff Christmas party at the station.

"..and if they don't dance, Well they're no friend of mine..."

a reply to: TrueBrit

So true. I think the word "socialism" has become a catchall for anything undesirable, regardless of whether it fits or not.

As for the fear thingy in the OP, why did they stop with just schools brainwashing through fear? Isn't that also what "fire & brimstone" religious types usually do? The whole anti-LGBT agenda is usually based on the fear of going to Hell and/or the fear of winding up like Sodom and Gomorrah. And who can forget the political fearmongering like "death panels", "the red scare", the entire "war on drugs", etc? Those are also fear based brainwashing techniques, yet they targeted our entire citizenry.

I think it's more fair to say that a lot of people use fear to convince others to do what they want. That isn't limited to any specific demographic or age range. The fact that some fearmongerers made it into the schools & school boards that sign off on curriculum guidelines shouldn't be surprising. I'd say that the "scared straight" programs and "abstinence only" programs also use fear to brainwash impressionable students to live specific lifestyles. How do people here feel about those?

(For the record, I think "abstinence only" programs are stupid. I can respect them from a religious perspective, but that should be left up to the parents, churches, mosques, temples, etc. Since public schools should prepare youths to become citizens, schools should be teaching the truth about various contraceptives, STDs, risks/rewards/responsibilities of parenthood, etc.)

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: KansasGirl

The only thing that remotely troubles him about his education so far, is that he finds his Spanish teacher attractive, which makes it difficult for him to concentrate, which is why his Spanish grade is not on par with the rest of his grades. That is the only thing that remotely concerns me. Everything else he has said, everything else I have heard from them, from his mother, has filled me with confidence in them... further to that, they are even forcing the government to free up resources to improve his experience at the school, by providing him with an organisational assistant (because his condition makes getting from class to class in good order, and organising his homework, very difficult for him).

Good lad!

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: AngelicIRage

Nothing says "Controlled by fear" like homeschooling your child because you are afraid they might learn something you do not like the sound of.

Gosh, I hate that I agree with that.
I'd like to think it's awesome because everyone else is #e compared to me and I know best for my kids, but that statement is the truth!!
What's worse is the parent/s would NEVER self reflect to admit. NEVER> too invested in their decision. (unless the kids live in the wilds somewhere no school nearby)

Thanks for the lightbulb moment.

a reply to: zazzafrazz

I watched my sister in law pull her child out of school in the first month because the girl had a crush on a classmate. She deemed that inappropriate. Now, I know not all homeschoolers are done out of fear. But it's there. And there are times I would fancy doing it, but I wouldn't be good at it. And I think I'd go crazy 😝

originally posted by: chelsdh
Whatever the subject "safe sex" vs abstinence...

What is this 'abstinence' you speak of?

originally posted by: TrueBrit
Oh man... Officer Safety must be a right lark when the eighties segment comes along at the staff Christmas party at the station.

"..and if they don't dance, Well they're no friend of mine..."

Honestly, I just wanted him to gobble a handful of stuff that he had on his display board and then let us play with his sidearm.

a reply to: chelsdh

TBH I quite liked the idea of it, but if I'm honest with myself it's because the adult thinks "no one can teach my kids like me" or because "the teachers are so sh*te" or " the school system is crap" etc etc. I am not speaking to country and remote kids obviously.
For kids to survive as an adult, I would imagine it would be the healthiest decision to get them away from me, let them learn struggles with others, fighting, laughter all those social checks that we live with as adults.

The socializing side is important, no grown up can effectively form that life stuff. Kids need other a-hole kids to formulate that.

As for what is taught. That curriculum comes for the same same places public schools, it's the just filtered at a school or at home differently.

a reply to: Shamrock6

Kids know best...

a reply to: zazzafrazz

Thing is, homeschooling is great, if its done for the right reasons, in the right way, and with plenty of room made for socialisation (which is actually a better education for most kids than being sat in a class learning ANY subject).

But NONE of the reasons to home school which are valid or reasonable, have to do with being afraid of the information a school will impart. If you cannot trust that your child is safe at a school, or you are aware that the school will not cater for a prodigious child in a manner which will feed their intellects and fire their imaginations, those are VERY good reasons to home school them, but there are not many circumstances in which a child will be better off out of school than in it, unless there is something wrong with the kids at the school, or something very, very unique about the child in question.

a reply to: zazzafrazz

Every Monday morning, when the alarm is going off and I just don't want to crawl out of bed.... I think "I should just homeschool". But not really. It'd be bad for me and them. I am not very efficient at teaching children, that would be my husband's calling. He's great at breaking things down for a child to comprehend. Me, not so much.

It is not the schools. It is the society.

Even those that think they are awake, are so conditioned that they can't see how entrenched they are in the system.

The mother thinks she is in control, but she clearly places her daughter's desires over what she thinks is best for her.

Society is teaching our children that their desires and happiness is the most important thing in the world. If they aren't happy, it is someone else's fault, and if they can't deal with it take a pill.

Called out for another 14 year old that is on a slew of medications because she is depressed and has anxiety issues. She is 14! Teenage angst is part of being a teenager. This throw a pill at a child the moment they act like a normal teenager, as a solution to keeping a child "happy", is insanity at its finest.

Bigger problem is that it doesn't work. Teens are no happier, are less content, and feel more hopelessness, then anytime before.

In a world where they are selling "be what you want to be" they are drugging children so they can control them, and change them into what society deems is "normal and acceptable ".

Where are the parents in the mix?

Good question.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

It's worth a google.

There's a lot of anecdotal nonsense in this thread, not being backed by any statistics or complete knowledge of how the "system" works.

a reply to: TrueBrit

Thing is, homeschooling is great, if its done for the right reasons, in the right way, and with plenty of room made for socialisation (which is actually a better education for most kids than being sat in a class learning ANY subject).

According to you, what are the "right reasons" for OTHER parents to home school THEIR children?

I'm curious.

a reply to: eisegesis

Its easier to say what are bad reasons to home school.

Some examples are:

Because your religious intolerance is such that your child ever speaking words like "Tyrannosaurus Rex" or "deinonychus" would make them sinners in your eyes.

Because you do not want your child mixing with children from different backgrounds to their own.

Because you are so puritan that you do not even want your child to know how viruses replicate, leave alone how human babies get made.

And other things just like the above.

originally posted by: chelsdh
Every Monday morning, when the alarm is going off and I just don't want to crawl out of bed.... I think "I should just homeschool". But not really. It'd be bad for me and them.

Would you settle for the Masonic Pizza Charter School?

a reply to: eisegesis

Heaven help anyone having a lazy Thursday morning opinion, next time we'll pull out the county and federal reports before daring to make a single post.