Russian network RT must register as foreign agent in US

a reply to: DJW001

Who is the friend ? Who is the enemy ?
The US is not at war with Russia nor Israel ...

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: DJW001

Who is the friend ? Who is the enemy ?
The US is not at war with Russia nor Israel ...

Russia is engaged in a cyberwar with the United States, in case you haven't noticed. Israel shares intelligence with us. Work it out for yourself.

a reply to: yuppa

Exactly. I would think this is obvious to anyone that followed their coverage of MH17 or Crimea.

The rest of the world, including investigators, state that MH17 was shot down by a BUK. Russia says it was Ukrainian Su-25. RT runs with the Su-25 theory while trying to discredit anyone pushing the BUK theory.

The rest off the world reports that the Little Green Men in Crimea are Russian soldiers. Russia says they aren't. RT runs with the story that Russia had no soldiers on the streets of Crimea.

a reply to: DJW001

The US is in a cyberwar with Russia (and the rest of the world BTW) :



Israel sank a US warship : USS Liberty and is a partner of America despite America's constiual interdiction to engage into military cooperation with rogue nuclear countries :



Evenmore, to push for regime change and proxy-wars :

a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke

Funny how you turned a thread about Russian propaganda into an anti-Israel thread. Good work.

a reply to: DJW001

Try at least to say something vaguely relevant to the OP next time ...

Dual Citizenship: Loyal Americans or Foreign Agents In Our Government?

a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke

israel good, russia bad. repeat ad infinitum.

originally posted by: RoScoLaz5
a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke

israel good, russia bad. repeat ad infinitum.

America bad, repeat ad infinitum.

a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke

Russia cannot compete with the west militarily, that is why they have adopted the Gerasimov Doctrine, which weaponizes social media and other venues of propaganda. You may not want others to know about this strategy, but it is very real.

a reply to: DJW001

The problem with the 'Gerasimov Doctrine' is that it doesn’t exist

Now you can believe the US propaganda and its insinuations that 100k$ worth of facebook ads can turn an election.

One Simple Chart Proves That Facebook Thinks You're A Moron

Last week we jokingly wrote about a Facebook press release that was apparently an honest effort by the social media giant intended to summarize Russian efforts to undermine the 2016 election using their social media platform. That said, at least to us, it seemed as though Facebook unwittingly proved what a farce the entire 'Russian collusion' narrative had become as, after digging through advertising data for the better part of full year, Facebook reported that they found a 'staggering' $50,000 worth of ad buys that 'MAY' have been purchased by Russian-linked accounts to run 'potentially politically related' ads.

Not surprisingly, after being attacked by the mainstream media and even Hillary for "assisting" the Russians, Zuckerberg is once again in the press today fanning the flames of the 'Russian collusion' narrative by saying that Facebook will release to Congress the details of the 3,000 ads that 'MAY' have been purchased by Russian-linked accounts.

And while it seems obvious, please allow us to once again demonstrate why this entire process is so utterly bizarre...

The chart below demonstrates how the $50,000 worth of ad buys that 'MAY' have been purchased by Russian-linked accounts to run 'potentially politically related' ads compares to the $26.8 billion in ad revenue that Facebook generated in the U.S. over the same time period between 3Q 2015 and 2Q 2017....If $50,000 can swing an entire presidential election can you imagine what $26.8 billion can do?

Retro-influence? Half of ‘Russian ads’ on Facebook shown after US vote, 25% ‘never seen’ at all

More than half of the ‘Russian advertisements’ on Facebook that supposedly influenced the 2016 US elections actually appeared after the vote, the company has revealed. Nobody even saw one-quarter of the ads bought by “inauthentic accounts.”
In September, Facebook vowed to deliver Congress some 3,000 ads purchased between 2015 and 2017 and connected to 470 “inauthentic” accounts and pages, which, as it continues to say, “appear to have come from a Russian entity.” However, Moscow has blasted those allegations, while repeatedly stating that it had nothing to do with the 2016 vote.

“44% of total ad impressions (number of times ads were displayed) were before the US election on November 8, 2016; 56% were after the election,” the social media giant stated on Monday as it published some “facts” about “Russian ads.”

However, over “25% of the ads were never shown to anyone,” the Monday ‘factsheet’ says, adding the posts have reached some 10 million users.

On the same day the company announced that it is increasing authenticity requirements for advertisers, adding over 1,000 people to its ad-review staff after claiming it found paid postings on “divisive” social and political issues that “appeared” to stem from a Russian entity.

No evidence of Russia’s alleged hacking of the US elections has been presented as yet, despite a whole team at the US Justice Department struggling to investigate the ‘meddling’.

Because you know what is the point of the Russian blame-game : distract you from the real culprits.
FYI : 2016 email from Sheryl Sandberg (Facebook COO) to John Podesta :

From:[email protected]
To: [email protected]
Date: 2016-01-02 22:07
Subject: RE: Happy New Year

I am thrilled at the progress Hillary is making. Thank you for the kind thoughts. No one was more excited for this year to END than me! Onward to a new year and hopefully health and happiness for you and your family.

 

From: John Podesta [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2016 1:30 PM
To: Sheryl Sandberg
Subject: Happy New Year

Wishing you a happy New Year. 2015 was challenging, but we ended in a good place thanks to your help and support. Look forward to working with you to elect the first woman President of the United States.

Have a great New Year.

-John

 

Source : WIKILEAKS : /podesta-emails/emailid/56638

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: yuppa

Exactly. I would think this is obvious to anyone that followed their coverage of MH17 or Crimea.

The rest of the world, including investigators, state that MH17 was shot down by a BUK. Russia says it was Ukrainian Su-25. RT runs with the Su-25 theory while trying to discredit anyone pushing the BUK theory.

The rest off the world reports that the Little Green Men in Crimea are Russian soldiers. Russia says they aren't. RT runs with the story that Russia had no soldiers on the streets of Crimea.

I was following RT that entire time and I do not recall such history. Maybe you should go back to it and you will see that the BUK manufacturer was on RT identifying the missile as a model that Ukraine uses and Russia does not (because Russia has upgraded its systems since the end of the Cold War).

And if you were actually in intelligence circles, there was clear evidence of Ukrainian BUK systems in place at the time, right in the flight path. And there's all kinds of evidence of the actual launcher vehicle, identifiable by its numbers, being moved around Ukraine; as evidenced by undisciplined Ukrainian soldiers posting pictures of it on social media. The evidence of what actually happened is so in your face that it's insane to ignore it.

And speaking of propaganda, remember around the same time when ATS tried to censor RT? Not like the good old conspiracy theory days of the 90s, that's for sure.

EDIT: and I'm just curious as to what other foreign state-run networks qualify as "foreign propaganda"? The CBC? BBC? CGTN?

a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke

If the state controlled Russian media says the Gerasimov Doctrine must not exist, I guess it must not exist. The Kremlin would never lie, would they?

a reply to: DJW001

Would have been pushed into believing it exist if the - PROVEN ANTIRUSSIAN US MSM BS - didn't told you so ?

a reply to: TheStalkingHorse

Amazing... a perfect illustration of the Russian strategy of using a scattergun of contradictory "alternative facts" to sow confusion and create the impression that "it is impossible to know the truth." Everyone here followed the MH-17 affair, so there is no point denying how the Russian run media covered it. Oh, and nice touch claiming that ATS has ever considered banning RT. You know that is not true.

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: DJW001

Would have been pushed into believing it exist if the - PROVEN ANTIRUSSIAN US MSM BS - didn't told you so ?

Wow. There are receipts showing Russia buying ads on social media, and you are claiming they are not up to anything?

ETA: For the benefit of newbies, I have been documenting Russian propaganda efforts for years. For example:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: TheStalkingHorse

To answer your question, technically all state funded media are propaganda, by definition. Some state funded media are more objective than others, due to the nature of liberal democracy. The bottom line is that all media will lie if forced to. Russian media lie constantly. As I have pointed out, and you demonstrated, they deliberately tell contradictory lies, their objective being to undermine the belief that it is possible to know the truth.

a reply to: DJW001

Hold you breath until Mueller comes with something ...
If you want your fantasies to have an official echo chamber, he's the last clown of the deck you are left with atm, every single BS you have asserted have all proven wrong so far and you still want enjoy delusion - what a masochist you are. You would rather enjoy deception than admit you were wrong all the way.

Please let us know if you ever hear something FROM Mueller, I will sure let you know when I hear something ABOUT him.

Weekly Update: Big Mueller Lawsuit!
Judicial Watch Sues Justice Department for Mueller Russian Special Counsel Budget

You rejoice at the fact that sources you can only villify by gratuitous troll-grade bashing are about to be silenced because they tell unpleasant truths you can't refute, while the MSM lies are reassuring. But that won't last.

Burr: Russia probe will expose erroneous reporting

Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr (R-N.C.) stopped short of endorsing Trump's Thursday morning call for a congressional investigation of the media. But Burr did predict that the final product of his panel's bipartisan inquiry into Moscow's disruption of the 2016 election would illustrate factual errors in some media reports on the issue.

"We're not going to investigate news organizations, but we will use the findings of our report to let the American people hold every news organization accountable for what they portrayed as fact, in many cases without sources — at least, no sources that would admit to it," Burr told POLITICO.

"And I think, when we finish our report, we will find that quite a few news organizations ran stories that were not factual," he added.

You just can't admit that you are the victim of US domestic propaganda, as if it was something new :

a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke

Good thing I live in a country where private citizens can sue the government to get financial details of investigations. Funny how you failed to mention that Burr specifically did not claim that the Steele dossier was false. As usual, partisan politicians are making vague, unsubstantiated claims that reporting that they do not like is false or misleading. I genuinely hope that you are being paid for your efforts, because you seem to spend a great deal of time searching for news items designed to mislead American readers. Or are you just that passionate about your cause?

a reply to: links234

You are free to pollute your mind however you want. The choices will still be there. Just their agenda will be more clearly defined. Have at it . It's your mind.
If you don't care I sure don't.