Is Our Universe One Simulation in a Billion?

a reply to: audubon

Yes, the simulated universe idea is click-bait. Too many holes, not enough explanation.

A mathematical-centric set of individuals who forgot that maths is not the precurser to everything. I.E I can move my hand and it involves all the complexity of the universe yet I used no mathematics to do it.

originally posted by: thyextendedself
If today there are billions of portable computers that once occupied entire buildings, these same computers could one day be our gaming consoles simulating universes indistinguishable from reality.

This is number 10 in this list of things you could live to see.
Ten things the future will bring

We can simulate entire worlds already. Here' is a video of 24 artificial intelligences as leaders of regions on a simulated Earth competing for territory, resources, etc not unlike Earth's actual history but it's all an impressive simulation, though still very much distinguishable from reality.



I think the simulations always will be distinguishable from reality and that too many people have seen the Matrix movies, which should be enough to teach them about glitches in the matrix which you might see in a simulation.

Congratulations, you have just spun off billions of Universes that are simulations from Musk , yourself , and everyone reading this thread....

a reply to: thyextendedself

No..all other simulations are over...and this one ceased to be a simulation some time ago...which is why all that happens here is ALL THAT MATTERS.

Foolish god...jumping into his own simulation was the only way to end all the simulations.

originally posted by: seattlerat
Some users of psychedelic substances state that reality seems "less real" after they have tripped. Could it be that these chemical compounds somehow interfere with the simulation and allow views into the true reality behind the sim?

You've rung a bell there. Didn't psychonaut sans pareil Terence McKenna experience entities he referred to as 'machine elves' repeatedly (as in, on different days) while using Dee Emm Tee? (The ATS filter prevents me from typing it the usual way).

The 'machine' bit of McKenna's name for them suddenly seems to take on potential significance.

Not read any McKenna since he died, so my recall of this is hazy. If it sparks anyone's curiosity, I'm sure a description must be somewhere online.

ETA: Decent summary of McKenna's experience with the 'elves' here. And a "Quora" thread here, with some gloriously trippy artwork that any ATSer would be proud to have in their profile.

Our current understand is too incomplete. First we need quantum computers to fill in some gaps. Then we need to further understand quantum phenomena. Maybe someday we'll understand it so well we can change how our reality unfolds. Our simulations will get better and better as we learn, but I don't think they'll ever reproduce the full reality. It can only ever be a clever and embarrassingly expensive illusion.

Some of us will choose lo live bigger chunks of our lives on computer systems. But don't mistake a convincing simulation for the real thing, they're not the same thing. And don't mistake a person who devotes their life to simulated realities with those who devote themselves to the real one. To do either is the height of arrogance.

And don't forget the fist simulated realiites were probably dreams or roleplay or daydreaming. This is not new. Everytime I open a good book and read, I'm stepping into a simulated a universe.

You mean infinite ones. We're in infinity. And there is no limit to anything its always infinite.