Trump ends DACA

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Xcathdra
i think the more correct answer would be is because they feel they deserve amnesty by blaming their parents and dont want to return to their country of citizenship to apply to come here legally.

Could be but if they don't meet the requirements then the answer is they can't, no matter how you slice it.

Anything else is a slap to the face of all immigrants who came here legally. We shouldnt reward individuals for breaking the law.

What you stated is by far, how most legal immigrants feel. They invested the time, price, standing in lines, filling out forms, for doing it the RIGHT way...playing by the rules.

The United States is insulting legal immigrants, when non-citizens are allowed to bypass those procedures.

Care, our system is hosed, the difference is, with DACA, we are talking about children being brought here by their parents, without a choice. I agree that total amnesty would be wrong, but being brought here at 2, puts a bit of a different spin on it.

a reply to: carewemust

We have hit a new low when politicians feel the need to protect illegal immigrants over their own lawful constituents.

a reply to: carewemust

originally posted by: Xcathdra
Either way how they feel is in fact irrelevant since we use the law and not opinion...

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: carewemust

We have hit a new low when politicians feel the need to protect illegal immigrants over their own lawful constituents.

Are you a native American, if not, chances are you or your ancestors, were not legal immigrants. None of mine were, some in the 1600's and some in the 1800's.

Full disclosure, half of me is English-Scots-Irish, half of me German. The English side arrived in North America in 1621, the German side in 1830's. We have owned slaves and purchased indentured servants, nothing that I am proud of, but it is in writing. I am related to the royal families of Europe, as probably 30% of you are as well, providing you are caucasion. We cannot change history, only proceed to not repeat the mistakes of our past.

ETA: My two children are 1/4 Mexican

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: carewemust

We have hit a new low when politicians feel the need to protect illegal immigrants over their own lawful constituents.

Are you a native American, if not, chances are you or your ancestors, were not legal immigrants. None of mine were, some in the 1600's and some in the 1800's.

Ugh, no. Just NO.

It's not like the wigwams had signs posted or the tribes had ports of entry!

Where do you get this stuff?

This is great for the American people and legal immigrants.

This is one of the reasons a majority of American citizens voted President Trump into office.

a reply to: DrStevenBrule

Actually, it makes little difference either way.

Great for virtue signaling though.

Actually he hasn't.

originally posted by: Tempter

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: carewemust

We have hit a new low when politicians feel the need to protect illegal immigrants over their own lawful constituents.

Are you a native American, if not, chances are you or your ancestors, were not legal immigrants. None of mine were, some in the 1600's and some in the 1800's.

Ugh, no. Just NO.

It's not like the wigwams had signs posted or the tribes had ports of entry!

Where do you get this stuff?

It might have something to do with actually being educated. My 9th G-Grandfather entered NA with a land grant from the King of England. He went on to become a Judge on the New Jersey Colony Supreme Court.

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule
This is great for the American people and legal immigrants.

This is one of the reasons a majority of American citizens voted President Trump into office.

Actually they didn't, he lost the popular vote.

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: carewemust

We have hit a new low when politicians feel the need to protect illegal immigrants over their own lawful constituents.

Are you a native American, if not, chances are you or your ancestors, were not legal immigrants. None of mine were, some in the 1600's and some in the 1800's.

Umm actually...There were no laws About Immigration in the US/americas then SO it was not illegal immigration. Talk about white guilt.

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule
This is great for the American people and legal immigrants.

This is one of the reasons a majority of American citizens voted President Trump into office.

When we exclude the 140 percent voting for the democrats Yes trump did win the majority vote AND the electoral colege.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: carewemust

We have hit a new low when politicians feel the need to protect illegal immigrants over their own lawful constituents.

Are you a native American, if not, chances are you or your ancestors, were not legal immigrants. None of mine were, some in the 1600's and some in the 1800's.

Umm actually...There were no laws About Immigration in the US/americas then SO it was not illegal immigration. Talk about white guilt.

No white guilt, but fully aware of the history of my family. They were not invited here by the natives, showed up, and decided to stay, and took it by force. Think about it any way you want to, I owned up to the sins of my ancestors, are you willing to do the same?

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule
This is great for the American people and legal immigrants.

This is one of the reasons a majority of American citizens voted President Trump into office.

When we exclude the 140 percent voting for the democrats Yes trump did win the majority vote AND the electoral colege.

Source? You cannot come on here and state obvious BS without a source.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: carewemust

We have hit a new low when politicians feel the need to protect illegal immigrants over their own lawful constituents.

Are you a native American, if not, chances are you or your ancestors, were not legal immigrants. None of mine were, some in the 1600's and some in the 1800's.

Umm actually...There were no laws About Immigration in the US/americas then SO it was not illegal immigration. Talk about white guilt.

What part of they took it by force do you not comprehend, force would indicate illegality in modern terms. Are you seriously this f'n deranged?

I grew up in a family of racists, my maternal grandparents had no problem with the "N" word, my paternal grandparents were worse, they had a black man help them on the farm, my grandmother would only feed him on the back porch. She wasn't letting N's in her house.

This was the 1950's y'all, you want to deny rascism, you have to own it first.

Yes my family in the past has owned slaves. I will not deny that, it is somewhat public record. Have we treated them well, I don't know, but some were given their freedom in wills.

Own your families history, we all have it, but don't be an ass.

a reply to: BubbaJoe

That's pretty f'ed up but are you racist?

Also what does what happened in the 1950's have to do with right now??

I'm Irish I want British people to pay me reparations for the potato famine.

a reply to: BubbaJoe

I have native American heritage actually but not much at all.

and while i always enjoy the native American Indian argument this is now and that was then.

We have immigration laws.

Follow them or risk being deported if caught.

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: BubbaJoe

That's pretty f'ed up but are you racist?

Also what does what happened in the 1950's have to do with right now??

I'm Irish I want British people to pay me reparations for the potato famine.

Am I racist? Probably not, considering a gay black man was the best man at my wedding.