Seoul: N. Korea believed to have conducted 6th nuclear (hydrogen) test

originally posted by: PlasticWizard
a reply to: intrptr

Japan sent out one of these nuke sniffing planes not very long ago. Not sure if the results are in the from it.

Constant Phoenix aircraft are US. Samples can take several days to even collect, process at labs, press announcements, etc.

Haven't heard these results at all, from prior tests, or Fukushima.

Aviationist

a reply to: Xcathdra


This is a significant escalation, but I still say we should wait until Kim Jong shoots first. He knows that launching a live nuclear missile will be the end of North Korea.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: intrptr

Seismic activity is also looked at and even more so in regions that arent seismically active and that contain nuke testing facilities. We have detection planes in the region so im sure its only a matter of time before the particles are detected.

However how do you rectify your propaganda theory with Russia and China reporting the same thing? China stated they detected the seismic activity as well.

as for your metal cone comment its easy to prove you wrong when Un himself is making the claims as to what they are.

An earthquake is an earthquake until proven otherwise. The rest is hear / say. But I get the ratcheting up of tensions and flooding the airwaves, " nuke this, test that, OMG Hydrogen!" propaganda avalanche by the ATS warmonger crowd.

Where did I say "metal cone"?

Edit: Heres a thread on a quake here in the US. Lets see how quick people are to declare its nuclear testing... not.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

From BNO live blog: South Korean President is calling for "completely isolating" North Korea.
bnonews.com...

If that were possible, wouldn't it have been done before now?

Might it be that NK just wants to be taken seriously by the other A-Bombers?
Why is nobody effing around with Pakistan, for example. Or with India, Israel?

It´s because they have the bomb!

Why is nobody whining when "The Good Ones"(TM), the former allegedly united States of America, UK, France for example, tests it rockets and A-Bombs?

Because these are good and healthy A-Bombs and intercontinental rockets?

To be honest, i am more concerned about a former allegedly USA with a Trump as President and his fingers on the nuclear football, than about a Lil Kim trying to be taken serious by the other nukers.

originally posted by: Sheesh
Well, we will soon see what the next move in the 'chicken' game is.
My money is on a non-nuclear but rather visible medium scale attack from a small coalition, without UN consent. After that, nuclear capability will be diminished and Kim has a very long vacation.

What people don't get is there is no next move, the North Koreans won. How did I come to this conclusion ? well the US just can't go in and bully around a Nuclear Capable Country, it has never gone to war with a Country that has Nuclear Weapons.

The US never fights on even terms, it always goes in with overkill and never confronts a Nation who can beat it. Using this formula I have determined this NK hype is moot, they won pure and simple. Next will be the Chinese selling oil in gold and this my friends will spell the financial ruin of the USA.

originally posted by: carewemust
From BNO live blog: South Korean President is calling for "completely isolating" North Korea.
bnonews.com...

If that were possible, wouldn't it have been done before now?

They are referring to the UNSC placing severe sanctions on N. Korea. In the past Russia and China have blocked severe restrictions.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Well I guess that's it then , Trump will have to respond to this or be made to look impotent before the international community.
Hold on to your hats people.

S Korea 'considers deploying US tactical weapons'
South Korea is considering its response and says one option is to deploy the "most powerful US tactical weapons" - widely seen as a reference to US nuclear weapons.
www.bbc.co.uk...

edit on 3-9-2017 by gortex because: (no reason given)

a reply to: PlasticWizard

Why does he always look like he's having things explained to him in baby talk. All I get from seeing him and things like this, is....

originally posted by: Shuye

originally posted by: PlasticWizard
a reply to: Xcathdra

The first picture that was circulating.

I wonder why they always take pictures of him thinking while someone explains to him how something works? He looks a bit retarded that way...

Perhaps something a Powerpoint can solve.

Haha so it's not only me... classic

ahhh lmao..

I just looked at a site that put the 4.1 quake detected as approx 2ktons.

not so much a h bomb as a fizzle.

Seems they still can't make a bomb.

ETA my bad, see its 6.3 not 4 for the explosion.
That puts it about double Hiroshima.

Good for them. Let them do whatever they want for their own defense.

originally posted by: TheLotLizard
Good for them. Let them do whatever they want for their own defense.

That's not how this will work out.

originally posted by: TheLotLizard
Good for them. Let them do whatever they want for their own defense.

"knock knock."
"Who is there?"
"Everyone. We want you to stop building bombs."
"I need bombs for my defence."
"What are you defending yourself against?"
"Everyone telling me to stop building bombs."

Good logic.

a reply to: Wardaddy454

And you know this how? Are you psychic? Are you a medium? Do you have a magical crystal ball?

The only way something will happen is if someone provokes them or attacks them. Which then it's still under defense. Please don't use that fear mongering BS with me. The whole " Lets attack them first before they attack us" narrative is cowardice and fearful, nonetheless an ancient way of thinking.

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: intrptr

Seismic activity is also looked at and even more so in regions that arent seismically active and that contain nuke testing facilities. We have detection planes in the region so im sure its only a matter of time before the particles are detected.

However how do you rectify your propaganda theory with Russia and China reporting the same thing? China stated they detected the seismic activity as well.

as for your metal cone comment its easy to prove you wrong when Un himself is making the claims as to what they are.

An earthquake is an earthquake until proven otherwise. The rest is hear / say. But I get the ratcheting up of tensions and flooding the airwaves, " nuke this, test that, OMG Hydrogen!" propaganda avalanche by the ATS warmonger crowd.

Where did I say "metal cone"?

Edit: Heres a thread on a quake here in the US. Lets see how quick people are to declare its nuclear testing... not.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I'm sure the quake watchers of ATS will be able to show us how this is different than a typical quake, if it is indeed a test.

originally posted by: TheLotLizard
a reply to: Wardaddy454

And you know this how? Are you psychic? Are you a medium? Do you have a magical crystal ball?

The only way something will happen is if someone provokes them or attacks them. Which then it's still under defense. Please don't use that fear mongering BS with me. The whole " Lets attack them first before they attack us" narrative is cowardice and fearful, nonetheless an ancient way of thinking.

Please don't plead with me.

Secondly, Do YOU know for a fact it isn't the case? No one wants to mess with NK because of Big Brother China. So there goes your defense argument. We have a child running a country heading towards nukes, if they don't already have them, whom basically believes its his mission to fulfill the dream of his father and grandfather. A NK controlled Korean peninsula.

ETA: And I'm not saying attack. Unless China wishes us to send a missile through his bedroom window, that's China's mess to take care of, with heavy pressure from the rest of the world.

originally posted by: badw0lf

originally posted by: TheLotLizard
Good for them. Let them do whatever they want for their own defense.

"knock knock."
"Who is there?"
"Everyone. We want you to stop building bombs."
"I need bombs for my defence."
"What are you defending yourself against?"
"Everyone telling me to stop building bombs."

Good logic.

Let's turn this "joke" into an American point of view. One that I guarantee you and Fury would agree with.


"knock knock."
"Who is there?"
"The Government. We want you to stop carrying guns."
"I need guns for my defence."
"What are you defending yourself against?"
"Everyone telling me to stop carrying guns."

a reply to: Wardaddy454

All I read was " Waaaah, mean monster has claws, mommy please kill it it's so scary!"

In actuality the monster was just a damn shadow.

I've seen countless people from ATS saying that we need to strike first or do strategic strikes or assasinate someone over a fearful hunch while they hide behind a computer screen.

originally posted by: TheLotLizard

originally posted by: badw0lf

originally posted by: TheLotLizard
Good for them. Let them do whatever they want for their own defense.

"knock knock."
"Who is there?"
"Everyone. We want you to stop building bombs."
"I need bombs for my defence."
"What are you defending yourself against?"
"Everyone telling me to stop building bombs."

Good logic.

Let's turn this "joke" into an American point of view. One that I guarantee you and Fury would agree with.


"knock knock."
"Who is there?"
"The Government. We want you to stop carrying guns."
"I need guns for my defence."
"What are you defending yourself against?"
"Everyone telling me to stop carrying guns."

Complete different. I'm not making threats against other people, then demanding I can carry a gun.

NK is.

eta - It wasn't a joke reference either. Simply putting into basic context what is happening. And you are aware that NK has been threatening to strike other countries, right? They make threats, claim they have the ability to carry out those threats, then provide evidence that they may even be able to. And you say let them. Brilliant.