North Korea claims to have hydrogen bomb for long-range missile

a reply to: TinfoilTP

Has Mad Dog Mattis say anything yet. Seems tense with the silance.🙄

remember this : www.nytimes.com...

Clinton Approves Technology Transfer to China


NoKo getting info on miniaturized H-Bombs was all begun with that fateful treachery of giving strategic secrets to China under the guise of commerce (the receipt of hundred$-of-million$ into the Clinton Trust was the 'swap' to make the deal mutually beneficial.... according to patriotic sources from that time)




BTW

the seismographs would register a specific signature for an H bomb ------ as a H bomb requires a lot more than a mild explosion to compress the FUSION device components to detonate... it used to take a FISSION atomic bomb to 'Trigger' the Hydrogen FUSION bomb to detonate

a H bomb would register two separate explosions a micro second apart

from my lay-mans keystrokes to your display screen

originally posted by: St Udio


remember this : www.nytimes.com...

Clinton Approves Technology Transfer to China


NoKo getting info on miniaturized H-Bombs was all begun with that fateful treachery of giving strategic secrets to China under the guise of commerce (the receipt of hundred$-of-million$ into the Clinton Trust was the 'swap' to make the deal mutually beneficial.... according to patriotic sources from that time)

You can bet all Pentagon option planning has been compromised and given to the enemies from the Obama years, especially with Hillary there. New plans were needed the day Trump set foot in office.

a reply to: violet

Yeah... unless nk had 2 billion pounds of he laying around somewhere, it was nuclear...

Jaden

a reply to: Gothmog

Lol what else would it be lol. You do realize that most countries don't have 2 billion pounds of high explosives stock piled right?

Jaden

a reply to: Cofactor

Not 8 minutes apart.

Jaden

originally posted by: Bigburgh
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Has Mad Dog Mattis say anything yet. Seems tense with the silance.🙄

I think he just gave a brief statement

Full transcript

originally posted by: violet

Full transcript

Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said that any threats by North Korea to the U.S. or its allies will be met with an "effective and overwhelming" military response.

Sounds like locked and loaded.

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a reply to: violet

"Annihilate" and and MANY OPTIONS to do so. response to "Threats"..
Response to Threats rather than just actions NK has done.

Stopping all trades with NK partners.

Keep Calm and Chi- Carry On.😊



"Defense secretary James Mattis has spoken outside the White House. “We are not looking for the annihilation of North Korea, we have many options,” he says.

He also said that “any threat to the United States or its territories including Guam or our allies will be met with a massive military response.”~Mad Dog Mattis

Tweet from Trump

The United States is considering, in addition to other options, stopping all trade with any country doing business with North Korea.

North Korea. Top trade export partners:

China 83%
India 3.5%
Pakistan 1.5%
Burkina Faso 1.2%
Other 10.8%

originally posted by: Masterjaden
a reply to: Gothmog

Lol what else would it be lol. You do realize that most countries don't have 2 billion pounds of high explosives stock piled right?

Jaden

?
Why not ?

a reply to: violet

There are many forms of war, and economic is one of them. If we cut ties with china we may as well go to war.

originally posted by: violet

originally posted by: Bigburgh
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Has Mad Dog Mattis say anything yet. Seems tense with the silance.🙄

I think he just gave a brief statement

Full transcript

Well that was scary as hell..

a reply to: St Udio

It was a fizzle. An impressive fizzle but still not a 'success' primary went of pretty good secondary went piffft!.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

They're still trying to figure out if there was a secondary. If there was, this wasn't a very impressive detonation. If there wasn't, they've gotten a lot better than their last tests.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Thats my understanding to.

Mattis aint kidding about the annialation thing.

Speaking of options. I know its primed and ready. Any chance itll get dusted off in the near future in your opinion. Would be unfortunate if their entire nuclear program got wiped out again.

Taking that out is simple though compared to how to deal with the artillary within range of seoul. You think massive first hour airstrikes can effectively wipe that threat away too. Its no good if in our course of action south korea gets slammed.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: BASSPLYR

They're still trying to figure out if there was a secondary. If there was, this wasn't a very impressive detonation. If there wasn't, they've gotten a lot better than their last tests.

I need to ask a stupid question. By "secondary" do you mean as in a collapse event?

It was my understanding the 4.1 was due to a collapse.

Just trying to understand the different terms.

a reply to: Zaphod58

If their warhead design is anything to go off, it looks like they have a BULKY neutron generator bolted onto the back. not to mention if they used something similar to the Teller-ulam model, the casing(for whatever that is worth) looks to off center and bulky.

120+ Kt is nothing to sneeze at. if they just left it there and worked on miniaturization and maximizing the EMP effects would serve them well.

thats what i would do. miniaturization and robustness is key. Hell we made artillery rounds, what if they are bluffing and that IS what they were doing and they have some NASTY mini warheads aimed at seoul via artillery

a reply to: dianajune

A straight nuclear weapon consists of one detonation. It's just a primary. A hydrogen bomb uses a nuclear detonation to start things off, and has two explosive components. It injects deuterium and tritium into the blast to amplify the explosion. That's the secondary I'm talking about. Fat Man and Little Boy were 21 and 15 kt. By comparison, the first hydrogen bomb we detonated, in the 1952 Ivy Mike detonation, was 10 megatons.